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Same sex couples having children

  • 02-05-2011 09:21AM
    #1
    PAULWATSON
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭PAULWATSON


    Maybe it is just me, but does anyone else here find it disgraceful and like totally discriminatory that same sex couples cannot have natural children of their own?

    Why is it that only male and female couples can have children? If two females want to have a child together or two homosexual males, who are we to stop them.


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Comments

  • #2
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    The lack of a penis or vagina often poses a problem.


  • #3
    Forest Master
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Forest Master


    "natural" children of their own? Are you being stupid or sarcastic?


  • #4
    superfish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭superfish


    thought the saying was up the bum no harm done ? so now they have to worry about getting pregnant ????


  • #5
    Saila
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    missed out on the brids and bees huh? ..awwwww


  • #6
    PAULWATSON
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭PAULWATSON


    k_mac wrote: »
    The lack of a penis or vagina often poses a problem.

    A fact often overlooked.
    Forest Master wrote: »
    "natural" children of their own? Are you being stupid or sarcastic?

    What, they should have equal rights. That is what I keep hearing on the radio and TV.

    So Forest, are you actually saying that these are some physical limits on the same same agenda?


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  • #7
    yawha
    Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭yawha


    A homosexual couple can't have children naturally without involving a third party, for obvious biological reasons.

    Absolutely nothing wrong with a same sex couple adopting though.


  • #8
    Spunge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    Yes, mother nature is a homophobe and a bigot for not allowing same-sex couples to have children.


  • #9
    Predator_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Predator_


    No child should be brought up in such circumstances.


  • #10
    Saila
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    Predator_ wrote: »
    No child should be brought up in such circumstances.

    *opens popcorn*


  • #11
    PAULWATSON
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭PAULWATSON


    Spunge wrote: »
    Yes, mother nature is a homophobe and a bigot for not allowing same-sex couples to have children.

    That hits the nail on the head.

    I knew people were not always as nice and friendly as us guys are these days.


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  • #12
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Saila wrote: »
    *opens popcorn*

    *gets nachos, minstrels and drinks*

    Here for the long haul.


  • #13
    PAULWATSON
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭PAULWATSON


    Predator_ wrote: »
    No child should be brought up in such circumstances.


    Go and take some happy pills, do you not know that we all love each other these days?


  • #14
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Predator_ wrote: »
    No child should be brought up in such circumstances.

    Well I live with 2 girls in a full truple relationship and we have an 8 month old daughter now. so far so good!


  • #15
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Predator_ wrote: »
    No child should be brought up in such circumstances.

    As hermaphrodites?


  • #16
    Spunge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    Predator_ wrote: »
    No child should be brought up in such circumstances.

    yer mas yer da


  • #17
    Forest Master
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Forest Master


    PAULWATSON wrote: »
    are you actually saying that these are some physical limits on the same same agenda?

    I seriously don't know what you mean - that sentence makes no sense. What agenda? "Some physical limits", "same same"? :confused:
    I can't actually establish your stance on it - which is why I asked if your first post was stupidity or sarcasm. Of course they can't have "natural" children of their own - I thought that would be obvious due to biology. So what's your question? Should they be allowed to adopt? Is that what you're asking? Because for such a simple question, you really are making a meal out of asking it.


  • #18
    philologos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    PAULWATSON wrote: »
    Maybe it is just me, but does anyone else here find it disgraceful and like totally discriminatory that same sex couples cannot have natural children of their own?

    Why is it that only male and female couples can have children? If two females want to have a child together or two homosexual males, who are we to stop them.

    We can't stop them, but surely biology does. Unless you're getting at something else here?


  • #19
    Keenan Handsome Kindergarten
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Keenan Handsome Kindergarten


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Well I live with 2 girls in a full truple relationship and we have an 8 month old daughter now. so far so good!

    lol, you again


    Anyway for OP, gay people should have kids if they want


  • #20
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bluewolf wrote: »
    lol, you again

    Yip, I am mirror stalking you. It is where you stalk someone in such a way that you show up to places before they follow you there, so it then looks like they are stalking you.

    Either that or you feel the need to stalk me :)


  • #21
    Keenan Handsome Kindergarten
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Keenan Handsome Kindergarten


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yip, I am mirror stalking you. It is where you stalk someone in such a way that you show up to places before they follow you there, so it then looks like they are stalking you.

    Either that or you feel the need to stalk me :)

    No stalking involved, just every post I see of yours is about your truple! :D


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  • #22
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bluewolf wrote: »
    No stalking involved, just every post I see of yours is about your truple! :D

    This might be more to do with the posts you choose to read/notice than what I actually write. As I told you before when you got a bee in your bonnet about it, a quick use of the search function will find many posts by me on other topics.


  • #23
    Keenan Handsome Kindergarten
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Keenan Handsome Kindergarten


    Deleted User wrote: »
    This might be more to do with the posts you choose to read/notice than what I actually write. As I told you before when you got a bee in your bonnet about it, a quick use of the search function will find many posts by me on other topics.

    I know, I had a look, I'm not getting a bee in my bonnet :) You're probably right on what I notice!


  • #24
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bluewolf wrote: »
    I know, I had a look, I'm not getting a bee in my bonnet

    Then why bring it up? Just to derail threads? As I said before: You worry about the content of your posts, I will worry about the contents of mine. Now back to the topic....


  • #25
    BEASTERLY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    I have nothing against gay people but from a practical point of view i would be against them bringing up kids.

    It's all well and good to go all out for equal rights at all costs. But if you were the kid how would you feel growing up in those circumstances. Think about it, bullying in school, having friends over would be awkward and the lack of a father or mother figure can only be detrimental. Why would you willingly bring these troubles on a child.

    It's all well and good being PC but you have to be realistic.


  • #26
    stoneill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭stoneill


    Here's my tuppence worth:
    My opinion is that it is unhealthy for children to be brought up in a environment that is based on a non-heterosexual relationship.


  • #27
    Squeeonline
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,588 ✭✭✭Squeeonline


    stoneill wrote: »
    Here's my tuppence worth:
    My opinion is that it is unhealthy for children to be brought up in a environment that is based on a non-heterosexual relationship.

    About as unhealthy as bringing a child up in a heterosexual environment.


  • #28
    nozzferrahhtoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,368 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    stoneill wrote: »
    Here's my tuppence worth

    Yup, that is about what the opinion was worth. Possibly also the amount of money you spent researching it too. There appears to be no data or evidence to suggest any detriment to the health or upbringing of children in relationships with alternative configurations... with the exception of single parenting but that is due mostly to the increased pressures of time and income that single parents are faced with over couples of any sexual configuration.
    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    But if you were the kid how would you feel growing up in those circumstances. Think about it, bullying in school, having friends over would be awkward

    Children are rarely bullied in that fashion. Bullies pick targets first, and choose reasons to bully them after the fact retrospectively. If a child is going to be bullied the bully will find some reason for it, whether the child has gay parents or not.

    However your point is doubley problematic given it is equally applicable to any characteristic that "stands out" on the part of the parents. By your reasoning parents with any noticable handicap should also not be having children, because bullies will latch on to the "spa" parent or the "capper" as they were called when I was in school.

    And someone please think of the midgets!!! By your thinking, who wants a parent who is a "midget"???

    If you go down this route of thinking, basically any parent that does not fit your personal ideal mould of what parents should be like, should not be having children for fear that their standing out as "different" will cause their kids to be bullied. After all, "Why would you willingly bring these troubles on a child".
    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    the lack of a father or mother figure can only be detrimental.

    It would appear you spend the same 2p that the user above did. There is little to no research suggesting anything of this sort at all.


  • #29
    Keenan Handsome Kindergarten
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Keenan Handsome Kindergarten


    Hiding behind the "oh but the bullies" defense to justify your own prejudices really drives me up the fcuking wall.

    Oh but the bullies will bully red heads - no redheads allowed!
    They'll bully children with glasses - no glasses allowed!

    Ffs, pandering to this crap is not going to get anyone anywhere.


  • #30
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    PAULWATSON wrote: »
    Maybe it is just me, but does anyone else here find it disgraceful and like totally discriminatory that same sex couples cannot have natural children of their own?

    Why is it that only male and female couples can have children? If two females want to have a child together or two homosexual males, who are we to stop them.

    Sigh...... just sigh

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • #31
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Deleted User wrote: »
    This might be more to do with the posts you choose to read/notice than what I actually write. As I told you before when you got a bee in your bonnet about it, a quick use of the search function will find many posts by me on other topics.


    Don't drag stuff in here from other fora.

    Stay on topic please.


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