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Does anyone else ever think about the "reality" of death?

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  • #32
    Alkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,931 ✭✭✭Alkers


    madison2011 wrote: »
    If we die and turrn into manure why are there so many intuitive signals from those that pass.
    Show us one of there signals.


  • #33
    Kevin Duffy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    madison2011 wrote: »
    Sorry to taint this rationalistic thread but picture this:
    I just visited my aunt and uncle tonight in their really old farmhouse (you know the ones with the huge open fireplaces that everyone sits around). The aunt was telling me about the passing of her daughters mothers in law last year. Some psychic repeated that womens dying words to her (as told to her by her spirit in the room?!?)

    How would a stranger know the exact words?

    My aunt also told me she was visited by her mother in law at the end of her bed the night she died. Of course she could have imagined it but..

    The TV went all whitenoise as she was telling me her 'stories'. :eek: She said the spirits were passing through and to acknowledge them. Yeah it is stormy out but...

    If we die and turrn into manure why are there so many intuitive signals from those that pass. Are we asking the wrong question when we ask about infinity and life? Energy doesn't just cease does it? :rolleyes:

    Can't help thinking your 27 day journey has taken a wrong turn somewhere :D


  • #34
    LondonIrish90
    Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭LondonIrish90


    johnmcdnl wrote: »
    the way you put it nearly makes no afterlife seem like a positive...

    what the fúck are we supposed to do in heaven for 1000*1 million*1 billion years
    :eek::eek::eek:

    It also makes doing anything in this life absolutely pointless.

    If we are going to live in heaven for eternity, I am 100% guaranteed to win the world cup for the Mozambique dead XI, have a threesome with Emma Watson and Pippa Middleton, and beat Louis Theroux, Winston Churchill and John Virgo in a game of texas hold 'em.

    We might as well just lounge around in our underpants, making sure we pray each sunday, and wait til death.


  • #35
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    I'm gonna live again in another realm, what pisses me off is that atheists will too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhZ2tvv3mto


  • #36
    madison2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭madison2011


    Hah Kevin. My thread was locked. Was furious so I'm getting all transcendental tonight instead.27 days x infinity not so inspiring :)


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  • #37
    cesc77
    Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭cesc77


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    I'm gonna live again in another realm, what pisses me off is that atheists will too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhZ2tvv3mto


    What....the....fook?So many questions.

    She was in heaven and she told god not to let her go back to to her family.Even when he said youre not ready.YOU ,told god?:rolleyes:

    ffs...I sometimes have a wee dream and think that its real.I dream of a world were people are not afraid to be themselves,and they can live their lives without hellfire and damnation lies,


  • #38
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,125 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o


  • #39
    madison2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭madison2011


    Simona1986 wrote: »
    Show us one of there signals.
    Thankfully I'm not dead yet so I dont have anything to show you.I'll get back to you on that one.
    Many people have friends/family who have 'a story from beyond' that is meaningful to them.
    My point is scientific questions need scientific answers, crazy questions get you crazy answers. Is one line of enquiry more valid that another? Human life is so not important in the larger scheme of things.


  • #40
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    cesc77 wrote: »
    I dream of a world were people are not afraid to be themselves,and they can live their lives without hellfire and damnation lies,

    Hawaii?


  • #41
    Donal Og O Baelach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Donal Og O Baelach


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Hawaii?

    Trying too hard Pete. Really.


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  • #42
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Donal Og O Baelach wrote: »
    Trying too hard Pete. Really.

    You sobered up quick. An act was it?


  • #43
    Donal Og O Baelach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Donal Og O Baelach


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    You sobered up quick. An act was it?

    :pac::pac::pac:


  • #44
    policarp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭policarp


    Death will lead to another romp in the Garden of Eden. Eating apples, talking to snakes and getting hoodwinked by women.


  • #45
    Donal Og O Baelach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Donal Og O Baelach


    policarp wrote: »
    Death will lead to another romp in the Garden of Eden. Eating apples, talking to snakes and getting hoodwinked by women.

    Or, as was my case, talking to apples, eating women, and getting hoodwinked by snakes.


  • #46
    johnthemull
    Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭johnthemull


    i thought the garden shed wood give me peace from the fairer sex. Now even death holds no hope!


  • #47
    policarp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭policarp


    Think Green and recycle.
    Something like reincarnation.


  • #48
    johnthemull
    Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭johnthemull


    How many women would like to recycle men? Perhaps a different thread.


  • #49
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    CorkMan wrote: »
    Assuming there is no afterlife. We will be gone for "eternity", now that might not seem much but let me phrase it like this:
    1 thousand by 1 thousand = 1 million. Then we multiple 1 million x 1 million = 1 billion. 1 billion x 1 billion = 1 trillion. Just multiply 1 trillion by 1 trillion by 1 trillion in by those years multiplied again.


    that number will eventually become infinitely less than just "1" and on and on the next number will be infinitely less than 1. People think now, if we die eternity will be there, but we don't fully grasp it. We will be gone, for, I can't even find a word for it, there is no word for it, certainly not one the human mind can grasp.

    The word you're looking for is "bollocks".


  • #50
    johnthemull
    Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭johnthemull


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    The word you're looking for is "bollocks".

    there is no word for nothing


  • #51
    Yahew
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭Yahew


    How do the reincarnation boyos explain global population increase? Where are the new souls coming from? Why so many new souls in the last few centuries? The reason can't be improvements in agriculture or health, as that means we on Earth can dictate to whatever power is assigning or creating souls what souls to assign, or create, and when to overproduce.

    Also you cant all be descendants of Cleopatra, or Alexander. Live your actual life well, rather than dwelling on a life you never had.


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  • #52
    Yahew
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭Yahew


    smcgiff wrote: »
    Interesting you mention golf*. Being heaven, you'll eventually get superb at golf. Eventually you'll even get 5 par holes in one shot and within a not too long a time you'll not only a get a hole in one, but a coure in one! Then what!

    * I read a book once and the author was trying to point out how even Heaven could not sustain a heavenly feeling for ever. He used golf to get his point across.

    Well, yes. Its funny that Christian fundamentalists demand that the Earth be only 6,000 years old, but also that after life be eternal. One's too short, one's too long. And if God can do Eternity - he can do evolution oever billions of years*

    Frankly, if we are in heaven with present personality complete we would get bored, if on the other hand we lose our personalities and becoming borg like creatures praying all day and happy about it- well thats worse.
    Thats not us.


    * St. Augustine dealt with this in City of God. He admits that 6,000 years , which he had previously "proven" as the age of the Earth, was a very short time for an eternal God. However he denied that God was lazy because he lived outside time so there was no time before the heaven and the Earth were created.

    That argument is both smart, and stupid.


  • #53
    Amalgam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,030 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    CorkMan wrote: »
    Assuming there is no afterlife. We will be gone for "eternity", now that might not seem much but let me phrase it like this:
    1 thousand by 1 thousand = 1 million. Then we multiple 1 million x 1 million = 1 billion. 1 billion x 1 billion = 1 trillion. Just multiply 1 trillion by 1 trillion by 1 trillion in by those years multiplied again.


    that number will eventually become infinitely less than just "1" and on and on the next number will be infinitely less than 1. People think now, if we die eternity will be there, but we don't fully grasp it. We will be gone, for, I can't even find a word for it, there is no word for it, certainly not one the human mind can grasp.

    Dude... [exhales]

    I always like this for illustrating the power of numbers and scale.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0


    Associated website: http://www.powersof10.com/


  • #54
    Alkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,931 ✭✭✭Alkers


    Yahew wrote: »
    How do the reincarnation boyos explain global population increase? Where are the new souls coming from? Why so many new souls in the last few centuries? The reason can't be improvements in agriculture or health, as that means we on Earth can dictate to whatever power is assigning or creating souls what souls to assign, or create, and when to overproduce.

    Also you cant all be descendants of Cleopatra, or Alexander. Live your actual life well, rather than dwelling on a life you never had.

    Don't they think you can be reincarnated as a bird/cockroach etc


  • #55
    yammycat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭yammycat


    you were dead for eternity before you were born, didn't bother you too much then so I wouldn't worry about it


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