Does anyone else ever think about the "reality" of death?

CorkMan

Assuming there is no afterlife. We will be gone for "eternity", now that might not seem much but let me phrase it like this:

1 thousand by 1 thousand = 1 million. Then we multiple 1 million x 1 million = 1 billion. 1 billion x 1 billion = 1 trillion. Just multiply 1 trillion by 1 trillion by 1 trillion in by those years multiplied again.

that number will eventually become infinitely less than just "1" and on and on the next number will be infinitely less than 1. People think now, if we die eternity will be there, but we don't fully grasp it. We will be gone, for, I can't even find a word for it, there is no word for it, certainly not one the human mind can grasp.

Susannahmia

Meh it will be just like before you were conceived/born, you wont exist so you wont be aware and therefore you wont care. Its not that unfathomable.

Black Swan

Another dead thread.

hondasam

CorkMan wrote: »

Assuming there is no afterlife. We will be gone for "eternity", now that might not seem much but let me phrase it like this:

1 thousand by 1 thousand = 1 million. Then we multiple 1 million x 1 million = 1 billion. 1 billion x 1 billion = 1 trillion. Just multiply 1 trillion by 1 trillion by 1 trillion in by those years multiplied again.

that number will eventually become infinitely less than just "1" and on and on the next number will be infinitely less than 1. People think now, if we die eternity will be there, but we don't fully grasp it. We will be gone, for, I can't even find a word for it, there is no word for it, certainly not one the human mind can grasp.

I'm confused enough all ready OP, what are you on about ?

pow wow

Rather than spend any time thinking about it now I'll worry about it when I get there. As there is no 'there' in your scenario then I won't have wasted a second

Dave!

CorkMan wrote: »

Assuming there is no afterlife. We will be gone for "eternity", now that might not seem much but let me phrase it like this:

1 thousand by 1 thousand = 1 million. Then we multiple 1 million x 1 million = 1 billion. 1 billion x 1 billion = 1 trillion. Just multiply 1 trillion by 1 trillion by 1 trillion in by those years multiplied again.

that number will eventually become infinitely less than just "1" and on and on the next number will be infinitely less than 1. People think now, if we die eternity will be there, but we don't fully grasp it. We will be gone, for, I can't even find a word for it, there is no word for it, certainly not one the human mind can grasp.

Doesn't matter how long "eternity" is, because we'll never experience it... As with before you were born, when you die you no longer have experiences. There's nothing to grasp really.

Scuid Mhór

Susannahmia wrote: »

Meh it will be just like before you were conceived/born, you wont exist so you wont be aware and therefore you wont care. Its not that unfathomable.

If this was Facebook I'd 'like' that :cool:

3DataModem

I am pretty sure your maths is wrong, or just very very unorthodox.

Kevin Duffy

CorkMan wrote: »

Assuming there is no afterlife.

Then the length of what doesn't exist doesn't matter.

CorkMan wrote: »

that number will eventually become infinitely less than just "1" and on and on the next number will be infinitely less than 1.

Hmmmm....I'm no mathematician, but....

CorkMan wrote: »

People think now, if we die eternity will be there, but we don't fully grasp it. We will be gone, for, I can't even find a word for it, there is no word for it, certainly not one the human mind can grasp.

Speak for yourself. I and, I'm sure, many others, are quite happy with our grasp of the concept.

KittyeeTrix

CorkMan wrote: »

People think now, if we die eternity will be there, but we don't fully grasp it. We will be gone, for, I can't even find a word for it, there is no word for it, certainly not one the human mind can grasp.

How about using the word "forever"

Yahew

Did you know, OP, that if you had an infinite amount of typewriters, and an infinite amount of monkeys, you would get an infinite amount of monkeys shagging or sh*tting on typewriters, and not one of them will write anything much?

Infinity - its impossible to comprehend.

beano345

"When you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back at you." -nietzsche

the human mind has a hard time dealing with being and nothingness.enjoy it while it lasts

smcgiff

We need to get over our sense of self importance. We even invent super fantastic beings that can create an entire universe, yet is obsessed with what we do with our willies, especially on Sundays.

We've self awareness, that is both a gift and a curse. Ultimately we are manure, but if you push me to poetry I'd say...

'We are but memories waiting to be.'

Kevin Duffy

Op, I think this is what you meant to say,

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die."

And if it wasn't, it should have been.

beano345

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Op, I think this is what you meant to say,

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die."

And if it wasn't, it should have been.

blade runner:D carl sagan always puts things into perspective for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wupToqz1e2g

augmented reality

Never mind this... turns out to be different billions, american and british:o


Sorry to be fussy but...........

1 billion is 1,000 million (1,000 x 1,000,000), not 1million,million

1 trillion is 1million,million (1,000,000 x 1,000,000)

smcgiff

augmented reality wrote: »

Sorry to be fussy but........... your maths is wrong

1 billion is 1,000 million (1,000 x 1,000,000), not 1million,million

1 trillion is 1million,million (1,000,000 x 1,000,000)



:cool:

Not sure which is which but isn't there an American Billion and a British Billion. Think the OP may be correct with one of the versions ... British?

pulpfictionost

We are just lucky to experiance this.

Try not to be a kunt to anybody, and maybe they wont be a kunt to you.
Thats all you can do, try and enjoy the ride

augmented reality

smcgiff wrote: »

Not sure which is which but isn't there an American Billion and a British Billion. Think the OP may be correct with one of the versions ... British?

Oooops:o Should have double checked first:rolleyes:

Never knew there was an american and british billion, thanks for pointing that out:)

johnmcdnl

the way you put it nearly makes no afterlife seem like a positive...

what the fúck are we supposed to do in heaven for 1000*1 million*1 billion years
:eek::eek::eek:

Yahew

johnmcdnl wrote: »

the way you put it nearly makes no afterlife seem like a positive...

what the fúck are we supposed to do in heaven for 1000*1 million*1 billion years
:eek::eek::eek:

Pray. Also you can golf.

suitseir

I believe there is re-incarnation.....cause I have DEFINITELY met some of my pain in the asssss relations before!!!:)

smcgiff

Yahew wrote: »

Pray. Also you can golf.

Interesting you mention golf*. Being heaven, you'll eventually get superb at golf. Eventually you'll even get 5 par holes in one shot and within a not too long a time you'll not only a get a hole in one, but a coure in one! Then what!

* I read a book once and the author was trying to point out how even Heaven could not sustain a heavenly feeling for ever. He used golf to get his point across.

Donal Og O Baelach

"Since death alone is certain and the time of death uncertain, what should I do? "
This is an old Buddhist question - the answer is tha it frees you to live your own life according to the rules that are correct for you. You will die - no one will be help you - so live now, feel the life run through you, it will not last.

johnthemull

You must think about death every day for it can happen any day
Never leave death out of your heart for a minute
Take it and clutch it close
It will be here soon
Until it comes lead life with the wisdom to know
the curtain comes down in an instant
Lead life with compassion for all beings who will soon be silent

OutlawPete

CorkMan wrote: »

Assuming there is no afterlife. We will be gone for "eternity", now that might not seem much but let me phrase it like this:

1 thousand by 1 thousand = 1 million. Then we multiple 1 million x 1 million = 1 billion. 1 billion x 1 billion = 1 trillion. Just multiply 1 trillion by 1 trillion by 1 trillion in by those years multiplied again.

that number will eventually become infinitely less than just "1" and on and on the next number will be infinitely less than 1. People think now, if we die eternity will be there, but we don't fully grasp it. We will be gone, for, I can't even find a word for it, there is no word for it, certainly not one the human mind can grasp.

So basically, what you're saying is: that none of us have enough disk space on our Sky Plus boxes.

Naikon

It's out of my control. Will be just like what happened before you were born. Who knows.

mufcboy1999

Dave! wrote: »

Doesn't matter how long "eternity" is, because we'll never experience it... As with before you were born, when you die you no longer have experiences. There's nothing to grasp really.

now thats a scary thought.

madison2011

Sorry to taint this rationalistic thread but picture this:
I just visited my aunt and uncle tonight in their really old farmhouse (you know the ones with the huge open fireplaces that everyone sits around). The aunt was telling me about the passing of her daughters mothers in law last year. Some psychic repeated that womens dying words to her (as told to her by her spirit in the room?!?)

How would a stranger know the exact words?

My aunt also told me she was visited by her mother in law at the end of her bed the night she died. Of course she could have imagined it but..

The TV went all whitenoise as she was telling me her 'stories'. :eek: She said the spirits were passing through and to acknowledge them. Yeah it is stormy out but...

If we die and turrn into manure why are there so many intuitive signals from those that pass. Are we asking the wrong question when we ask about infinity and life? Energy doesn't just cease does it? :rolleyes:

orourkeda

CorkMan wrote: »

Assuming there is no afterlife. We will be gone for "eternity", now that might not seem much but let me phrase it like this:

1 thousand by 1 thousand = 1 million. Then we multiple 1 million x 1 million = 1 billion. 1 billion x 1 billion = 1 trillion. Just multiply 1 trillion by 1 trillion by 1 trillion in by those years multiplied again.

that number will eventually become infinitely less than just "1" and on and on the next number will be infinitely less than 1. People think now, if we die eternity will be there, but we don't fully grasp it. We will be gone, for, I can't even find a word for it, there is no word for it, certainly not one the human mind can grasp.

You're dead right

cesc77

dislike .Enjoy what you have ,lad.This is all there is.

Do look into how infinitismal we are, from the largest to the smallest thing though.Brings a touch of perspective.

Just try to avoid a painful death

Oh,and avoid religion as this will cause you the most mental pain you can imagine:pac:

Alkers

madison2011 wrote: »

If we die and turrn into manure why are there so many intuitive signals from those that pass.

Show us one of there signals.

Kevin Duffy

madison2011 wrote: »

Sorry to taint this rationalistic thread but picture this:
I just visited my aunt and uncle tonight in their really old farmhouse (you know the ones with the huge open fireplaces that everyone sits around). The aunt was telling me about the passing of her daughters mothers in law last year. Some psychic repeated that womens dying words to her (as told to her by her spirit in the room?!?)

How would a stranger know the exact words?

My aunt also told me she was visited by her mother in law at the end of her bed the night she died. Of course she could have imagined it but..

The TV went all whitenoise as she was telling me her 'stories'. :eek: She said the spirits were passing through and to acknowledge them. Yeah it is stormy out but...

If we die and turrn into manure why are there so many intuitive signals from those that pass. Are we asking the wrong question when we ask about infinity and life? Energy doesn't just cease does it? :rolleyes:

Can't help thinking your 27 day journey has taken a wrong turn somewhere

LondonIrish90

johnmcdnl wrote: »

the way you put it nearly makes no afterlife seem like a positive...

what the fúck are we supposed to do in heaven for 1000*1 million*1 billion years
:eek::eek::eek:

It also makes doing anything in this life absolutely pointless.

If we are going to live in heaven for eternity, I am 100% guaranteed to win the world cup for the Mozambique dead XI, have a threesome with Emma Watson and Pippa Middleton, and beat Louis Theroux, Winston Churchill and John Virgo in a game of texas hold 'em.

We might as well just lounge around in our underpants, making sure we pray each sunday, and wait til death.

OutlawPete

I'm gonna live again in another realm, what pisses me off is that atheists will too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhZ2tvv3mto

madison2011

Hah Kevin. My thread was locked. Was furious so I'm getting all transcendental tonight instead.27 days x infinity not so inspiring

cesc77

OutlawPete wrote: »

I'm gonna live again in another realm, what pisses me off is that atheists will too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhZ2tvv3mto

What....the....fook?So many questions.

She was in heaven and she told god not to let her go back to to her family.Even when he said youre not ready.YOU ,told god?:rolleyes:

ffs...I sometimes have a wee dream and think that its real.I dream of a world were people are not afraid to be themselves,and they can live their lives without hellfire and damnation lies,

Killer Pigeon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o

madison2011

Simona1986 wrote: »

Show us one of there signals.

Thankfully I'm not dead yet so I dont have anything to show you.I'll get back to you on that one.
Many people have friends/family who have 'a story from beyond' that is meaningful to them.
My point is scientific questions need scientific answers, crazy questions get you crazy answers. Is one line of enquiry more valid that another? Human life is so not important in the larger scheme of things.

OutlawPete

cesc77 wrote: »

I dream of a world were people are not afraid to be themselves,and they can live their lives without hellfire and damnation lies,

Hawaii?

Donal Og O Baelach

OutlawPete wrote: »

Hawaii?

Trying too hard Pete. Really.

OutlawPete

Donal Og O Baelach wrote: »

Trying too hard Pete. Really.

You sobered up quick. An act was it?

Donal Og O Baelach

OutlawPete wrote: »

You sobered up quick. An act was it?

:pac::pac::pac:

policarp

Death will lead to another romp in the Garden of Eden. Eating apples, talking to snakes and getting hoodwinked by women.

Donal Og O Baelach

policarp wrote: »

Death will lead to another romp in the Garden of Eden. Eating apples, talking to snakes and getting hoodwinked by women.

Or, as was my case, talking to apples, eating women, and getting hoodwinked by snakes.

johnthemull

i thought the garden shed wood give me peace from the fairer sex. Now even death holds no hope!

policarp

Think Green and recycle.
Something like reincarnation.

johnthemull

How many women would like to recycle men? Perhaps a different thread.

ejmaztec

CorkMan wrote: »

Assuming there is no afterlife. We will be gone for "eternity", now that might not seem much but let me phrase it like this:

1 thousand by 1 thousand = 1 million. Then we multiple 1 million x 1 million = 1 billion. 1 billion x 1 billion = 1 trillion. Just multiply 1 trillion by 1 trillion by 1 trillion in by those years multiplied again.

that number will eventually become infinitely less than just "1" and on and on the next number will be infinitely less than 1. People think now, if we die eternity will be there, but we don't fully grasp it. We will be gone, for, I can't even find a word for it, there is no word for it, certainly not one the human mind can grasp.

The word you're looking for is "bollocks".

johnthemull

ejmaztec wrote: »

The word you're looking for is "bollocks".

there is no word for nothing

Yahew

How do the reincarnation boyos explain global population increase? Where are the new souls coming from? Why so many new souls in the last few centuries? The reason can't be improvements in agriculture or health, as that means we on Earth can dictate to whatever power is assigning or creating souls what souls to assign, or create, and when to overproduce.

Also you cant all be descendants of Cleopatra, or Alexander. Live your actual life well, rather than dwelling on a life you never had.