Evolution has stalled

strobe · 29-04-2011 11:15PM

cesc77 wrote: »

Not sure if this the right place but in my opinion it has....

We are changing physically and mentally at an amazing rate.The ones who survive to procreate are a lot different than those from even 50 years ago.Many people would not have survived then for a variety of reasons.

Healthcare is huge.We keep people alive now who would be tayty bread not so long ago.Not only are they alive but we are aiding their "faulty"genes to "infiltrate" the world gene pool.This may sound harsh but Im trying to make a realistic,pragmatic comment on where we are going.

I apologise to those that are offended by this but its just an idea.

Inbreeding used to be an issue until society cut it out(almost)

People with disabilities,special needs,genetic deformaties are allowed to procreate.Now,this wouldnt have happened years ago yet we are expected to support their progeny via the state.

I am not a heartless git but was just wondering what others may think

*backs away*

You seem to be of the belief that evolution is on some kind of mission to improve people in some way. You are wrong. Evolution stalling is exactly what evolution 'tries to do'. When it has stalled it is working perfectly. That's kind of the whole gig.

Yahew · 29-04-2011 11:16PM

Smyth wrote: »

We're developing into a society that's dependant on the evolution of the more cerebral for survival.
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That is what is not happening.

man.about.town · 29-04-2011 11:16PM

good points, i wonder is that why cancer has become so prevalent these days?

have you ever seen film "Idiocracy"... pretty stupid film but the idea was good, basically, hard working professionals are to busy to have kids while white trash (travellers and basically scumbags) have tons of kids and in the future the world becomes really dumb because the gene pool was diluted so much

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 29-04-2011 11:17PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDaOgu2CQtI

skylight1987 · 29-04-2011 11:18PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Well that isn't true is it? What is the difference between us emotion wise with guerrillas? Not much to be honest. Actually, some would say guerrillas are the real humans.

do you mean gorillas or guerrillas

Oranage2 · 29-04-2011 11:20PM

First Hawking has kids

Like what theZohan said:

this is evolution, the more we evolve the more we can deal with human defects -

I dont really buy into the scum are breading at a higher rate so we're evolving into a more scummy stupid human.

ScumLord · 29-04-2011 11:22PM

How does being disabled automatically mean there's something wrong with your genes? Becoming paralysed or losing a limb doesn't change your genes.

cesc77 · 29-04-2011 11:22PM

man.about.town wrote: »

good points, i wonder is that why cancer has become so prevalent these days?

have you ever seen film "Idiocracy"... pretty stupid film but the idea was good, basically, hard working professionals are to busy to have kids while white trash (travellers and basically scumbags) have tons of kids and in the future the world becomes really dumb because the gene pool was diluted so much

thank you,slightly different to wahat I was saying but basically the same.These people wouldnt have had all their kids live to reproductive stage in the past but now can due to handouts.

cesc77 · 29-04-2011 11:27PM

ScumLord wrote: »

How does being disabled automatically mean there's something wrong with your genes? Becoming paralysed or losing a limb doesn't change your genes.

If you are born with a disformity your genes are faulty,right?

I was talking about fundimental dna issues which cause these to be passed on to future generations due to the advances we have with medicine.

Your last sentence is lost as Im not talking about peoples dna who have suffered after being born

cullen5998 · 29-04-2011 11:27PM

cesc77 banned until further notice
I do not represent the views of boards.ie nor of the kings that post here but none the less I agree with my own point of view

ScumLord · 29-04-2011 11:30PM

cesc77 wrote: »

If you are born with a disformity your genes are faulty,right?

Some of it is, you only pass on half of it. So there's no guarantee the parent will pass on any dodgy genes.

Smyth · 29-04-2011 11:31PM

Yahew wrote: »

That is what is not happening.

Oh really?

Ever been sick? Ever taken medicine? How did you get to the hospital? Horse and cart? Did they take an xray? Were you hooked up to an EKG machine? Was that running on potato power?

I mean I'm interested in how we're not dependant on the people who develop these new sciences and technologies to survive. Primarily to see how much you can talk out your arse.

Go read a book about the dark ages. Gain some perspective.

cesc77 · 29-04-2011 11:32PM

cullen5998 wrote: »

cesc77 banned until further notice
I do not represent the views of boards.ie nor of the kings that post here but none the less I agree with my own point of view

I think you may have a wee inferiority complex as you cannot put your thoughts into words.Poor lad,try to chat in a forum in which you actually contribute something...

Bless,hes special

Oranage2 · 29-04-2011 11:35PM

cesc77 wrote: »

If you are born with a disformity your genes are faulty,right?

I was talking about fundimental dna issues which cause these to be passed on to future generations due to the advances we have with medicine.

Your last sentence is lost as Im not talking about peoples dna who have suffered after being born

So where does this stop?

Do we not let parents with glasses breed?
Do we not let say weaker people breed?
Do we not let ugly people to bredd?

jive · 29-04-2011 11:40PM

Who gives a ****. We're not going to be here forever and when **** eventually hits the fan I'll be long gone. Eventually there will be no humans.

Essentially the problem is that people in developed countries procreate in order to receive benefits. People who actually have work ethic and will power tend to apply themselves to a career and as a result don't have as many children. Thick ***** sit at home drinking cans and have 40 children. These 40 children are looked after by dopes and thus become dopes and have 1600 children between them. The intelligent people are vastly outnumbered by dopes and this is the world we live in. Unless Hitler v2 comes along it will stay this way for as long as humans survive.

It's a sad outlook to have that the world is essentially ****ed but it is and it's not going to change so just enjoy it. It's just greed and human's nature to look after himself and his own. We have it good in Ireland so don't whinge about it. We're not starving, we have access to health care and we have a good quality of life. If you're living here, believe it or not, you lucked out.

Evolution hasn't stopped. I would agree that the survival of the fittest has stopped because we look after everyone and everything and everything has a right to live and everything is a blessing. Give me a break. All you can do is enjoy yourself because thick people rule the world. They are the majority. They ride like rabbits and produce like rabbits and therefore have a larger say in all democratic countries. Enjoy yourself and don't worry about it cause it ain't changin

cullen5998 · 29-04-2011 11:42PM

cesc77 wrote: »

I think you may have a wee inferiority complex as you cannot put your thoughts into words.Poor lad,try to chat in a forum in which you actually contribute something...

Bless,hes special

What do you want me to say?

I disagree 100% with you.

I believe that if someone has has problem and it can be fixed then fix it

Are you perfect?

If not you go against what you said.

skylight1987 · 29-04-2011 11:50PM

jive wrote: »

Who gives a ****. We're not going to be here forever and when **** eventually hits the fan I'll be long gone. Eventually there will be no humans.

Essentially the problem is that people in developed countries procreate in order to receive benefits. People who actually have work ethic and will power tend to apply themselves to a career and as a result don't have as many children. Thick ***** sit at home drinking cans and have 40 children. These 40 children are looked after by retards and thus become retards and have 1600 children between them. The intelligent people are vastly outnumbered by dopes and this is the world we live in. Unless Hitler v2 comes along it will stay this way for as long as humans survive.

It's a sad outlook to have that the world is essentially ****ed but it is and it's not going to change so just enjoy it. It's just greed and human's nature to look after himself and his own. We have it good in Ireland so don't whinge about it. We're not starving, we have access to health care and we have a good quality of life. If you're living here, believe it or not, you lucked out.

Evolution hasn't stopped. I would agree that the survival of the fittest has stopped because we look after everyone and everything and everything has a right to live and everything is a blessing. Give me a break. All you can do is enjoy yourself because thick people rule the world. They are the majority. They ride like rabbits and produce like rabbits and therefore have a larger say in all democratic countries. Enjoy yourself and don't worry about it cause it ain't changin

good point, bar your use of the word retard which didnt sit well with the rest of your insightful comment

cesc77 · 29-04-2011 11:52PM

cullen5998 wrote: »

What do you want me to say?

I disagree 100% with you.

I believe that if someone has has problem and it can be fixed then fix it

Are you perfect?

If not you go against what you said.

I am not perfect so your last sentence is redundant.I have addressed your second sentence here.You give me nothing to talk to you about as you are a muppet.

Go on...give me a paragraph! Im joking really, as you are exactly the long term drain on humanity which I initially raised.(although slightly different)

I wont respond to you any further as I understand your wee head.safe up to bed now son.lie on your back

Son Of A Vidic · 29-04-2011 11:56PM

cesc77 wrote: »

Healthcare is huge.We keep people alive now who would be tayty bread not so long ago.Not only are they alive but we are aiding their "faulty"genes to "infiltrate" the world gene pool.

WTF!!!

cesc77 wrote: »

People with disabilities,special needs,genetic deformaties are allowed to procreate.Now,this wouldnt have happened years ago yet we are expected to support their progeny via the state.

Hey OP is this you?

cullen5998 · 29-04-2011 11:58PM

cesc77 wrote: »

I am not perfect so your last sentence is redundant.I have addressed your second sentence here.You give me nothing to talk to you about as you are a muppet.

Go on...give me a paragraph! Im joking really, as you are exactly the long term drain on humanity which I initially raised.(although slightly different)

I wont respond to you any further as I understand your wee head.safe up to bed now son.lie on your back

Yes be gone now young pipsqueak.
I bid you and your thoughts good day.

cesc77 · 29-04-2011 11:58PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

So where does this stop?

Do we not let parents with glasses breed?
Do we not let say weaker people breed?
Do we not let ugly people to bredd?

My god,I thought that some on here may comprehend..

Are kids borne with glasses?

Does physical appearance equate to ....anything....?

we dont let ugly people breed.

they just do...

ugliness is unquantifiable whereas healthy genes are .Thank You! Neeeexttt!

jive · 29-04-2011 11:59PM

skylight1987 wrote: »

good point, bar your use of the word retard which didnt sit well with the rest of your insightful comment

Changed. I didn't literally mean retards as you well know. Thanks for the heads up though cause the political correctness police would had the blue lights on

Logical Fallacy · 30-04-2011 12:01AM

cesc77 wrote: »

Not sure if this the right place but in my opinion it has....

We are changing physically and mentally at an amazing rate.The ones who survive to procreate are a lot different than those from even 50 years ago.Many people would not have survived then for a variety of reasons.

Healthcare is huge.We keep people alive now who would be tayty bread not so long ago.Not only are they alive but we are aiding their "faulty"genes to "infiltrate" the world gene pool.This may sound harsh but Im trying to make a realistic,pragmatic comment on where we are going.

I apologise to those that are offended by this but its just an idea.

Inbreeding used to be an issue until society cut it out(almost)

People with disabilities,special needs,genetic deformaties are allowed to procreate.Now,this wouldnt have happened years ago yet we are expected to support their progeny via the state.

I am not a heartless git but was just wondering what others may think

*backs away*

Clearly what you don't know about evolution and genetics would fill some very large books in some very large rooms in a very large building somewhere.

Not sure why you are backing away as you are not being controversial, you are just displaying your ignorance.

joseph brand · 30-04-2011 12:04AM

jive wrote: »

Who gives a ****. We're not going to be here forever and when **** eventually hits the fan I'll be long gone. Eventually there will be no humans.

Essentially the problem is that people in developed countries procreate in order to receive benefits. People who actually have work ethic and will power tend to apply themselves to a career and as a result don't have as many children. Thick ***** sit at home drinking cans and have 40 children. These 40 children are looked after by dopes and thus become dopes and have 1600 children between them. The intelligent people are vastly outnumbered by dopes and this is the world we live in. Unless Hitler v2 comes along it will stay this way for as long as humans survive.

It's a sad outlook to have that the world is essentially ****ed but it is and it's not going to change so just enjoy it. It's just greed and human's nature to look after himself and his own. We have it good in Ireland so don't whinge about it. We're not starving, we have access to health care and we have a good quality of life. If you're living here, believe it or not, you lucked out.

Evolution hasn't stopped. I would agree that the survival of the fittest has stopped because we look after everyone and everything and everything has a right to live and everything is a blessing. Give me a break. All you can do is enjoy yourself because thick people rule the world. They are the majority. They ride like rabbits and produce like rabbits and therefore have a larger say in all democratic countries. Enjoy yourself and don't worry about it cause it ain't changin

Have you seen Idiocracy?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

Yahew · 30-04-2011 12:05AM

Smyth wrote: »

Oh really?

Ever been sick? Ever taken medicine? How did you get to the hospital? Horse and cart? Did they take an xray? Were you hooked up to an EKG machine? Was that running on potato power?

I mean I'm interested in how we're not dependant on the people who develop these new sciences and technologies to survive. Primarily to see how much you can talk out your arse.

Go read a book about the dark ages. Gain some perspective.

What are you talking about. None of that is relevant to whether human beings are now evolving cerebrally, or not. Its cultural, not actual, evolution and is based, mostly, on the intelligence of people who have already existed. Nor am I saying that smart people no longer exist - I know - I am one. ( A scientist).

However, lets be clear about this. If dumb people breed more than smart people we will get stupider. The only counteracting force on this is regression to mean - which means very dumb people marrying very dumb people will have, on average, children smarter than their parents. however that wont make them smart.

Unless people have some kind of mathematical model where this wouldnt happen, they should cede the point.

Pete M. · 30-04-2011 12:06AM

Sitec wrote: »

Where can one find this Tayto Bread?

Hey it's tayty bread, them's different like.

KeithAFC wrote: »

Well that isn't true is it? What is the difference between us emotion wise with guerrillas? Not much to be honest. Actually, some would say guerrillas are the real humans.

Now that is a funny spelling mistake given all that surrounds it.
The fat buck talking sh1te in a grave yard last Monday may be a bit fcuked up, but hey he's still a human, at least.
But hey King Kong was a bit of gorilla's guerrilla wasn't he?

And as for the OP's concern about evolution, isn't there a theory somewhere that there are two different types of human evolving. A more cerebral, well looked after type and a more physical, school of hard knocks sort of an affair like?

As for inbreeding being sorted out. I don't know about that. I mean there's a lot more kids knocking around nowadays who may not know who their fathers are, but who live together in a community...

You should read The End of History by Fukuyama. That'll sort you out. And afterwards you'll say 'meh...'

Or you should...

jive · 30-04-2011 12:06AM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Clearly what you don't know about evolution and genetics would fill some very large books in some very large rooms in a very large building somewhere.

Not sure why you are backing away as you are not being controversial, you are just displaying your ignorance.

He's driving at survival of the fittest more so than evolution and he has a point. We are all wrapped in cotton wool and have access to copious amounts of medication in the developed world. I'm not saying he's right or wrong I'm just saying he has a point. You could argue that we evolved to know all this **** or that we evolved too well and as a result we have overpopulation and the likes. I like to argue that there are too many dopes and that I will just do my best to live in ignorance as that is the key to happiness when you have a brain because you are able to see how bollocksed everything is.

cesc77 · 30-04-2011 12:08AM

Sitec wrote: »

Where can one find this Tayto Bread?

Through the spud window into the mythical land of Mr Potao Head,but before that you have to travel a long and winding path culminating in a chat with the bi at Lough Neagh.....Dont pay the ferryman...bribe him with ferrero rocher.He loves those.

This helps in your quest to find the taty bread.

jive · 30-04-2011 12:09AM

joseph brand wrote: »

Have you seen Idiocracy?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

Never even heard of it!! Any good? The synopsis looks like an accurate description of the future anyway!

Logical Fallacy · 30-04-2011 12:11AM

jive wrote: »

He's driving at survival of the fittest more so than evolution and he has a point. We are all wrapped in cotton wool and have access to copious amounts of medication in the developed world. I'm not saying he's right or wrong I'm just saying he has a point. You could argue that we evolved to know all this **** or that we evolved too well and as a result we have overpopulation and the likes. I like to argue that there are too many dopes and that I will just do my best to live in ignorance as that is the key to happiness when you have a brain because you are able to see how bollocksed everything is.

Development within a perceived "safe" environment is a markedly different conversation to the one the OP rather ham-fistedly attempted to start though.

Evolution has stalled

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