Evolution has stalled

cesc77

Not sure if this the right place but in my opinion it has....

We are changing physically and mentally at an amazing rate.The ones who survive to procreate are a lot different than those from even 50 years ago.Many people would not have survived then for a variety of reasons.

Healthcare is huge.We keep people alive now who would be tayty bread not so long ago.Not only are they alive but we are aiding their "faulty"genes to "infiltrate" the world gene pool.This may sound harsh but Im trying to make a realistic,pragmatic comment on where we are going.


I apologise to those that are offended by this but its just an idea.

Inbreeding used to be an issue until society cut it out(almost)

People with disabilities,special needs,genetic deformaties are allowed to procreate.Now,this wouldnt have happened years ago yet we are expected to support their progeny via the state.


I am not a heartless git but was just wondering what others may think


*backs away*

Celly Smunt

nazi ireland 2011

landsleaving

You're right, let's remove the rights of the disabled and leave the sick to die.

Thatnastyboy

So we need to do a big cull is what you're saying?


Lets do it



*gets chainsaw*

CreepingDeath

Evolution is basically natural selection.
In first world countries there's no real natural selection, only in third world countries.

In first world countries, sexual selection is a bigger factor.
So womens choices determine the next generation more than the ability to outrun a lion.

landsleaving

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Evolution is basically natural selection.
In first world countries there's no real natural selection, only in third world countries.

In first world countries, sexual selection is a bigger factor.
So womans choices determine the next generation more than the ability to outrun a lion.

What about Usain Bolt? I bet he has his pick of the ladies and can outrun a lion.

PK2008

Survival is overrated

pragmatic1

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Evolution is basically natural selection.
In first world countries there's no real natural selection, only in third world countries.

In first world countries, sexual selection is a bigger factor.
So womens choices determine the next generation more than the ability to outrun a lion.

Natural selection is just one of the mechanisms of evolution.

cullen5998

Looser.

Fix it if possible

Dont be a pdrick.

I would like to blast you with piss. Or kick you in the face
Not me its the small piece of pighead in all of us who wants to

fedor.2.

You really should have to pass some basic tests before you have kids..it shouldn't be a right

Capt'n Midnight

It was on the BBC so it must be true ...

if you look at the population trends then we are currently getting fatter and shorter

My name is URL

cesc77 wrote: »

I apologise to those that are offended by this but its just an idea.

I dunno why anyone would be offended by what you say. Eugenics is not an inherently bad thing.. just made to look that way by people who twisted it to suit their own ideals. It was first pioneered by a cousin of Charles Darwin (Francis Galton).

It makes perfect sense in today's world, with such a high demand and diminishing amount of resources. The technology exists which can predict the likelihood of couples passing on serious birth defects, and will most likely become more utilised in the near future.

http://news.bioscholar.com/2011/03/diy-dna-tests-tell-couples-about-their-unborn-baby%E2%80%99s-genetic-disease-risk.html

Herb Powell

Well I hate when people say "evolution has stopped" because you can't know unless you are able to see a million years into the future. Personally, I think it's a bit naive to assume we have stopped evolving, just because we have nice living conditions-we're going to keep adapting as the world changes

Saila

your just one step in time away from all you mentioned, be carefull what you shun or you might turn into a hypocrit

cesc77

cullen5998 wrote: »

Looser.

Fix it if possible

Dont be a pdrick.

I would like to blast you with piss. Or kick you in the face
Not me its the small piece of pighead in all of us who wants to

Feel free,Sir.It was an idea.Im not a nazi and those that throw comments like that away freely are muppets.Im not trying to purify the human race.

I was making a point how evolution has been interfered with.How you choose to take that is up to you.

What I said is fact.I have already said in my initial statement that its a factual argument.

I will humiliate you in a court of law if you try to infer that Im a nazi,so is there any chance that we could observe an commentate on how humans are changing? please?

cullen,perchance I have struck a nerve.Ill give you another go.Dont threaten me though.Try to put together a coherent sentence and perhaps you may see my point.

cullen5998

My name is URL wrote: »

I dunno why anyone would be offended by what you say. Eugenics is not an inherently bad thing.. just made to look that way by people who twisted it to suit their own ideals. It was first pioneered by a cousin of Charles Darwin (Francis Galton).

It makes perfect sense in today's world, with such a high demand and diminishing amount of resources. The technology exists which can predict the likelihood of couples passing on serious birth defects, and will most likely become more utilised in the near future.

http://news.bioscholar.com/2011/03/diy-dna-tests-tell-couples-about-their-unborn-baby%E2%80%99s-genetic-disease-risk.html

Please stick to websites that do not begin with www.boards.ie due to lack of intelligent thoughtful posts signed cullen5998 self appointed moderator of afterhours

strokemyclover

OP, I would say "Hail Cesc" but that goes against everything I believe in as a Man United fan

You are a Nazi though!

starbelgrade

cesc77 wrote: »

I apologise to those that are offended by this but its just an idea.

As an idea, it hasn't really evolved, which is ironic.

cullen5998

cesc77 wrote: »

Feel free,Sir.It was an idea.Im not a nazi and those that throw comments like that away freely are muppets.Im not trying to purify the human race.

I was making a point how evolution has been interfered with.How you choose to take that is up to you.

What I said is fact.I have already said in my initial statement that its a factual argument.

I will humiliate you in a court of law if you try to infer that Im a nazi,so is there any chance that we could observe an commentate on how humans are changing? please?

cullen,perchance I have struck a nerve.Ill give you another go.Dont threaten me though.Try to put together a coherent sentence and perhaps you may see my point.

I meant if a person has a problem and it can be treated/fixed then it should be done. Do you not agree?

Yahew

I am not concerned about people with medical problems - we might all be dead by now if born in 1600. They died for all kind of reasons which those of us who live may have suffered.

however I am worried about the rise of the under-class. In the small town in Ireland where I grew up until I was 10 there was about 10 problem families, now there are 100. Next generation 1000.

There will come a time when it will not be sustainable.

fedor.2.

cullen5998 wrote: »

Please stick to websites that do not begin with www.boards.ie due to lack of intelligent thoughtful posts signed cullen5998 self appointed moderator of afterhours

:rolleyes:

My name is URL

cullen5998 wrote: »

Please stick to websites that do not begin with www.boards.ie due to lack of intelligent thoughtful posts signed cullen5998 self appointed moderator of afterhours

Well that's me put back in my box

Yahew

My name is URL wrote: »

Well that's me put back in my box

I was going to dismiss it as the rantings of an insane man - but it was boldified and that makes it alright and legal.

KeithAFC

What is the point of this thread?

cullen5998

OP Is an idiot but he needs to be told/shown.

Tell him if he is/not

or if you agree/disagree with his point.

skylight1987

i understand the debate you want us to have here ,no emotion just logic and logically i see your point but we are an emotional species so the two are intertwined . in a world of total logic your idea would work but people love people and are emotionally attached even if the person is not geneticly ideal.

KeithAFC

skylight1987 wrote: »

i understand the debate you want us to have here ,no emotion just logic and logically i see your point but we are an emotional species so the two are intertwined . in a world of total logic your idea would work but people love people and are emotionally attached even if the person is not geneticly ideal.

Well that isn't true is it? What is the difference between us emotion wise with guerrillas? Not much to be honest. Actually, some would say guerrillas are the real humans.

cson

cesc77 wrote: »

I will humiliate you in a court of law if you try to infer that Im a nazi

You've been warned!

cesc77

cullen5998 wrote: »

I meant if a person has a problem and it can be treated/fixed then it should be done. Do you not agree?

Of course anyone with an ailment should be treated.That is not the issue.

My issue ...sigh..is that we are in a place now where said medication is taking over from the natural process.

Im not advocating sterilisation of people with dna issues,god knows I have some, but certain conditions are obviously detrimental to the combined gene pool and society as a whole.

*waiting for...are you a geneticist?*

TheZohanS

cesc77 wrote: »

Not sure if this the right place but in my opinion it has....

We are changing physically and mentally at an amazing rate.The ones who survive to procreate are a lot different than those from even 50 years ago.Many people would not have survived then for a variety of reasons.

Healthcare is huge.We keep people alive now who would be tayty bread not so long ago.Not only are they alive but we are aiding their "faulty"genes to "infiltrate" the world gene pool.This may sound harsh but Im trying to make a realistic,pragmatic comment on where we are going.


I apologise to those that are offended by this but its just an idea.

Inbreeding used to be an issue until society cut it out(almost)

People with disabilities,special needs,genetic deformaties are allowed to procreate.Now,this wouldnt have happened years ago yet we are expected to support their progeny via the state.


I am not a heartless git but was just wondering what others may think


*backs away*

It's all evolution, it hasn't stopped.

I don't think you have thought this out properly.

Smyth

back in yonder years this might have been the issue. We're moving (have moved?) away from needing to protect the physically strong in order to survive.

I agree that when we were sleeping in caves and chasing dinosaurs for food* the continuation of the fittest and strongest was of the utmost importance, but today it seems kind of redundant.

We're developing into a society that's dependant on the evolution of the more cerebral for survival.

Would you have a problem with Steven Hawking procreating? I sure as hell wouldn't.

*citation needed

strobe

cesc77 wrote: »

Not sure if this the right place but in my opinion it has....

We are changing physically and mentally at an amazing rate.The ones who survive to procreate are a lot different than those from even 50 years ago.Many people would not have survived then for a variety of reasons.

Healthcare is huge.We keep people alive now who would be tayty bread not so long ago.Not only are they alive but we are aiding their "faulty"genes to "infiltrate" the world gene pool.This may sound harsh but Im trying to make a realistic,pragmatic comment on where we are going.


I apologise to those that are offended by this but its just an idea.

Inbreeding used to be an issue until society cut it out(almost)

People with disabilities,special needs,genetic deformaties are allowed to procreate.Now,this wouldnt have happened years ago yet we are expected to support their progeny via the state.


I am not a heartless git but was just wondering what others may think


*backs away*

You seem to be of the belief that evolution is on some kind of mission to improve people in some way. You are wrong. Evolution stalling is exactly what evolution 'tries to do'. When it has stalled it is working perfectly. That's kind of the whole gig.

Yahew

Smyth wrote: »

We're developing into a society that's dependant on the evolution of the more cerebral for survival.
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That is what is not happening.

man.about.town

good points, i wonder is that why cancer has become so prevalent these days?

have you ever seen film "Idiocracy"... pretty stupid film but the idea was good, basically, hard working professionals are to busy to have kids while white trash (travellers and basically scumbags) have tons of kids and in the future the world becomes really dumb because the gene pool was diluted so much

epgc3fyqirnbsx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDaOgu2CQtI

skylight1987

KeithAFC wrote: »

Well that isn't true is it? What is the difference between us emotion wise with guerrillas? Not much to be honest. Actually, some would say guerrillas are the real humans.

do you mean gorillas or guerrillas

Oranage2

First Hawking has kids



Like what theZohan said:

this is evolution, the more we evolve the more we can deal with human defects -

I dont really buy into the scum are breading at a higher rate so we're evolving into a more scummy stupid human.

ScumLord

How does being disabled automatically mean there's something wrong with your genes? Becoming paralysed or losing a limb doesn't change your genes.

cesc77

man.about.town wrote: »

good points, i wonder is that why cancer has become so prevalent these days?

have you ever seen film "Idiocracy"... pretty stupid film but the idea was good, basically, hard working professionals are to busy to have kids while white trash (travellers and basically scumbags) have tons of kids and in the future the world becomes really dumb because the gene pool was diluted so much

thank you,slightly different to wahat I was saying but basically the same.These people wouldnt have had all their kids live to reproductive stage in the past but now can due to handouts.

cesc77

ScumLord wrote: »

How does being disabled automatically mean there's something wrong with your genes? Becoming paralysed or losing a limb doesn't change your genes.

If you are born with a disformity your genes are faulty,right?

I was talking about fundimental dna issues which cause these to be passed on to future generations due to the advances we have with medicine.

Your last sentence is lost as Im not talking about peoples dna who have suffered after being born

cullen5998

cesc77 banned until further notice
I do not represent the views of boards.ie nor of the kings that post here but none the less I agree with my own point of view

ScumLord

cesc77 wrote: »

If you are born with a disformity your genes are faulty,right?

Some of it is, you only pass on half of it. So there's no guarantee the parent will pass on any dodgy genes.

Smyth

Yahew wrote: »

That is what is not happening.

Oh really?

Ever been sick? Ever taken medicine? How did you get to the hospital? Horse and cart? Did they take an xray? Were you hooked up to an EKG machine? Was that running on potato power?

I mean I'm interested in how we're not dependant on the people who develop these new sciences and technologies to survive. Primarily to see how much you can talk out your arse.

Go read a book about the dark ages. Gain some perspective.

cesc77

cullen5998 wrote: »

cesc77 banned until further notice
I do not represent the views of boards.ie nor of the kings that post here but none the less I agree with my own point of view

I think you may have a wee inferiority complex as you cannot put your thoughts into words.Poor lad,try to chat in a forum in which you actually contribute something...

Bless,hes special

Oranage2

cesc77 wrote: »

If you are born with a disformity your genes are faulty,right?

I was talking about fundimental dna issues which cause these to be passed on to future generations due to the advances we have with medicine.

Your last sentence is lost as Im not talking about peoples dna who have suffered after being born

So where does this stop?

Do we not let parents with glasses breed?
Do we not let say weaker people breed?
Do we not let ugly people to bredd?

jive

Who gives a ****. We're not going to be here forever and when **** eventually hits the fan I'll be long gone. Eventually there will be no humans.

Essentially the problem is that people in developed countries procreate in order to receive benefits. People who actually have work ethic and will power tend to apply themselves to a career and as a result don't have as many children. Thick ***** sit at home drinking cans and have 40 children. These 40 children are looked after by dopes and thus become dopes and have 1600 children between them. The intelligent people are vastly outnumbered by dopes and this is the world we live in. Unless Hitler v2 comes along it will stay this way for as long as humans survive.

It's a sad outlook to have that the world is essentially ****ed but it is and it's not going to change so just enjoy it. It's just greed and human's nature to look after himself and his own. We have it good in Ireland so don't whinge about it. We're not starving, we have access to health care and we have a good quality of life. If you're living here, believe it or not, you lucked out.

Evolution hasn't stopped. I would agree that the survival of the fittest has stopped because we look after everyone and everything and everything has a right to live and everything is a blessing. Give me a break. All you can do is enjoy yourself because thick people rule the world. They are the majority. They ride like rabbits and produce like rabbits and therefore have a larger say in all democratic countries. Enjoy yourself and don't worry about it cause it ain't changin

cullen5998

cesc77 wrote: »

I think you may have a wee inferiority complex as you cannot put your thoughts into words.Poor lad,try to chat in a forum in which you actually contribute something...

Bless,hes special

What do you want me to say?

I disagree 100% with you.

I believe that if someone has has problem and it can be fixed then fix it

Are you perfect?

If not you go against what you said.

skylight1987

jive wrote: »

Who gives a ****. We're not going to be here forever and when **** eventually hits the fan I'll be long gone. Eventually there will be no humans.

Essentially the problem is that people in developed countries procreate in order to receive benefits. People who actually have work ethic and will power tend to apply themselves to a career and as a result don't have as many children. Thick ***** sit at home drinking cans and have 40 children. These 40 children are looked after by retards and thus become retards and have 1600 children between them. The intelligent people are vastly outnumbered by dopes and this is the world we live in. Unless Hitler v2 comes along it will stay this way for as long as humans survive.

It's a sad outlook to have that the world is essentially ****ed but it is and it's not going to change so just enjoy it. It's just greed and human's nature to look after himself and his own. We have it good in Ireland so don't whinge about it. We're not starving, we have access to health care and we have a good quality of life. If you're living here, believe it or not, you lucked out.

Evolution hasn't stopped. I would agree that the survival of the fittest has stopped because we look after everyone and everything and everything has a right to live and everything is a blessing. Give me a break. All you can do is enjoy yourself because thick people rule the world. They are the majority. They ride like rabbits and produce like rabbits and therefore have a larger say in all democratic countries. Enjoy yourself and don't worry about it cause it ain't changin

good point, bar your use of the word retard which didnt sit well with the rest of your insightful comment

cesc77

cullen5998 wrote: »

What do you want me to say?

I disagree 100% with you.

I believe that if someone has has problem and it can be fixed then fix it

Are you perfect?

If not you go against what you said.

I am not perfect so your last sentence is redundant.I have addressed your second sentence here.You give me nothing to talk to you about as you are a muppet.

Go on...give me a paragraph! Im joking really, as you are exactly the long term drain on humanity which I initially raised.(although slightly different)

I wont respond to you any further as I understand your wee head.safe up to bed now son.lie on your back

Son Of A Vidic

cesc77 wrote: »

Healthcare is huge.We keep people alive now who would be tayty bread not so long ago.Not only are they alive but we are aiding their "faulty"genes to "infiltrate" the world gene pool.

WTF!!!

cesc77 wrote: »

People with disabilities,special needs,genetic deformaties are allowed to procreate.Now,this wouldnt have happened years ago yet we are expected to support their progeny via the state.

Hey OP is this you?

cullen5998

cesc77 wrote: »

I am not perfect so your last sentence is redundant.I have addressed your second sentence here.You give me nothing to talk to you about as you are a muppet.

Go on...give me a paragraph! Im joking really, as you are exactly the long term drain on humanity which I initially raised.(although slightly different)

I wont respond to you any further as I understand your wee head.safe up to bed now son.lie on your back

Yes be gone now young pipsqueak.
I bid you and your thoughts good day.