NCT MORE HIKES, POORER PAY

OutlawPete · 29-04-2011 01:07AM

pmcmahon wrote: »

i got a dipstick dropped into my engine which i then had to pay to get towed and stripped out,fcking idiots the lot of them.

Did they cover any of the cost at all?

Apparently they blow so many turbos that they had to introduce a special form for TDI owners to sign that pretty much states that if they blow, it won't be their fault. Have another NCT quite soon so will find out I guess.

Celly Smunt · 29-04-2011 01:08AM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Did they cover any of the cost at all?

got the next visit free :rolleyes:

Oranage2 · 29-04-2011 01:09AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

So, personally, I think the NCT is a load of cock.

Exactly - also a lot of the garages know the tester so its very common for testers to pass crappy cars from garages for a 'special fee'

2 stroke · 29-04-2011 01:20AM

What we realy need is a NRT (national road test). Our councils are getting away with murder. Cars are being wrecked by neglected roads. Its considered acceptable to put up a sign saying "Dangerous Bends" and not do anything about the problem.

johngalway · 29-04-2011 01:58AM

NCT is NOT the Holy Grail of car mechanical safety. I have heard tales, true tales, not tall ones, of cars which passed the test (one of those flying cars again) but which the owners/drivers freely admits contain defective aspects that are not safe.

For that reason I cast a leery eye on the NCT. It's not worthless, but it's far from perfect.

Senna · 29-04-2011 02:09AM

jakdelad wrote: »

they test every car but wont release info on which vechicles are the best wearing as regards brakes etc useful stuff that the motorist could use.

How would this information help anyone? Do you think people only get things fixed on their cars because of the NCT test?

pmcmahon wrote: »

couple of years ago i paid €50 to put my car which was perfect through and the c*nts failed me because i had child locks on,so then i had to spend another €50 to put it through again the same day while the child locks were off and it passed.pure money spinner.

Thats a visual inspection, no fee. If you did pay €50 you must have failed on something else.

eternal · 29-04-2011 02:26AM

The NCT in theory was a good idea.I mean there were cars tied together with rope on roads beofre that.But the testers are a joke.I had to go FOUR times to get mine to pass.After the first time ,the set of faults changed each time.So I was going to get certain things fixed ,then they changed their minds and then created new things which I then had to go fix .Pure money racket.I asked them straight out why did it pass on that but now failing on this ,whereas the other tester passed it .I was told ,ask the person who was working here.It was pretty obvious I couldnt as that person wasnt there that day.
I dont mind paying for it all ,if they are being consistant.But they arent .I mean coming up with new things wrong each time I went there .Like one saying ,oh the tracking is fine ,but fix this.Then fixing that and going back and another one saying oh that didnt need fixing but youd want to get your tracking looked at .
Pack wa&kers .

landsleaving · 29-04-2011 12:02PM

Senna wrote: »

Thats a visual inspection, no fee. If you did pay €50 you must have failed on something else.

Actually my Mum failed on that a few years back too. They even told her that was why. I'd say she was fuming, she failed about 3 times in a row on some new tiny thing another time.

Lucky for me I don't drive. I have a bike that gets a puncture every time I use it though :pac:

Agricola · 29-04-2011 02:01PM

eternal wrote: »

The NCT in theory was a good idea.I mean there were cars tied together with rope on roads beofre that.But the testers are a joke.I had to go FOUR times to get mine to pass.After the first time ,the set of faults changed each time.So I was going to get certain things fixed ,then they changed their minds and then created new things which I then had to go fix .Pure money racket.I asked them straight out why did it pass on that but now failing on this ,whereas the other tester passed it .I was told ,ask the person who was working here.It was pretty obvious I couldnt as that person wasnt there that day.
I dont mind paying for it all ,if they are being consistant.But they arent .I mean coming up with new things wrong each time I went there .Like one saying ,oh the tracking is fine ,but fix this.Then fixing that and going back and another one saying oh that didnt need fixing but youd want to get your tracking looked at .
Pack wa&kers .

I was failed for worn trackrod ends the last time. Showed it to a friend whos a mechanic and he said it was bull****. He cleaned them up and gave them a lick of black paint. Sailed through the re-test!

Doublin · 29-04-2011 02:17PM

They tried to fail me once, because one of the bolts that held the battery in place was loose. I refused to go away and have to re-take the test another time. Eventually we agreed I'd drive the car out of the centre building, park it up & tighten the bolt myself while the inspector fellow watched me. I got the pass there then..

jakdelad · 30-04-2011 02:29PM

ya see its all horsesh1tE, its purely revenue generating, they tell you we are all good europeans no trade barriers free to go to any eec country blah blah
but buy a car in northern ireland or england
and the customs aka govt are drooling to nail you to the cross
with VRT TAX the minute you appear
tell you then about free trade , my ar5e
again i ask if you apply the nct logic
a twenty year old car should be tested every six months
if a ten year car has to be tested every year??
but heres the stupid bit , a 30 year old does not have to be tested

OutlawPete · 16-05-2011 10:01PM

Primetime will be showing something about "bribing" a pass in the NCT in a few moments, sounds ominous.

Capt'n Midnight · 16-05-2011 10:19PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Primetime will be showing something about "bribing" a pass in the NCT in a few moments, sounds ominous.

RTE 1 right now !

Seth Brundle · 16-05-2011 10:19PM

jakdelad wrote: »

ya see its all horsesh1tE, its purely revenue generating, they tell you we are all good europeans no trade barriers free to go to any eec country blah blah
but buy a car in northern ireland or england
and the customs aka govt are drooling to nail you to the cross
with VRT TAX the minute you appear
tell you then about free trade , my ar5e
again i ask if you apply the nct logic
a twenty year old car should be tested every six months
if a ten year car has to be tested every year??
but heres the stupid bit , a 30 year old does not have to be tested

1. The EEC hasn't been around for a while.
2. VRT has not been shown to be a barrier to trade.
3. People repeatedly voted for FF whose former leader introduced VRT. People spent years happily paying VRT. Customs / revenue don't nail you to a cross. They make you pay what you owe for the car you decided to import. They will even give you a guide cost on their website.
4. NCT logic - in most European countries, the test (which is based on a European directive) is an annual one.
5. By and large, a car that has managed to survive on Irish roads for 30 years has not been neglected. However, whilst it not subject to an NCT, it still has to be roadworthy for it to be both legal and also for the insurance.

Corsendonk · 16-05-2011 10:32PM

Wanna pass the NCT, just bribe the NCT inspector! 100 euros to get a death trap passed.

OutlawPete · 16-05-2011 10:34PM

Corsendonk wrote: »

Wanna pass the NCT, just bribe the NCT inspector! 100 euros to get a death trap passed.

Wonder if RTE will pass along the names of those guys, or will they protect their sources.

Corsendonk · 16-05-2011 10:36PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Wonder if RTE will pass along the names of those guys, or will they protect their sources.

Garda will request the film anyway following the NRA complaint and its not just the one service centre. The NRA guy will be lucky to have a job by the end of the week.

JohnMarston · 16-05-2011 10:43PM

2 stroke wrote: »

What we realy need is a NRT (national road test). Our councils are getting away with murder. Cars are being wrecked by neglected roads. Its considered acceptable to put up a sign saying "Dangerous Bends" and not do anything about the problem.

Agreed.

Let me give you an example. I was driving down the cork road in waterford where there were road works going on as i neared the city center. They were resurfacing a road that was fine, absolutely fine.
Later that day, im driving down a back road not 15 minutes from the aforementioned road, and i was swerving to avoid the potholes.

Madness i tell you!:mad:

Seth Brundle · 16-05-2011 10:51PM

Corsendonk wrote: »

Garda will request the film anyway following the NRA complaint and its not just the one service centre. The NRA guy will be lucky to have a job by the end of the week.

Why would the NRA complain to the gardai?

Agent_47 · 16-05-2011 10:57PM

These guys will all get shopped. Applus+ will sack the depot supervisors, AA will drop in un-announced and by the end of the year we won't see any cars on the road > than 10 years old!
Remember when it first came in, all the bangers were gone, now they are all back. End of the year they will be scrapped.

G_R · 16-05-2011 11:00PM

Sorry to be going against the "money grabbing b*stards" trend, but just to point out to those who say that the annual testing is a money making scheme, the NCTS is a private company, your €50 doesn't go to the government, except for the tax on it which I'm guessing, is at the lower rate so about €6 or €7.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

And also, in fairness, €50/year is nothing, it's less than a €1 per week. To ensure that the cars on the road are roadworthy, it's a small price to pay.

Seth Brundle · 16-05-2011 11:01PM

Agent_47 wrote: »

These guys will all get shopped. Applus+ will sack the depot supervisors, AA will drop in un-announced and by the end of the year we won't see any cars on the road > than 10 years old!
Remember when it first came in, all the bangers were gone, now they are all back. End of the year they will be scrapped.

I think there will be a seriosu arse kicking to Applus tomorrow. This will be a nice political diversion away from the economy.
There will be new procedures brought ibn to ensure that there is confidence by the wider public in the NCT process.
However, if they sack the supervisors then, fine. They should have been supervising.

johngalway · 16-05-2011 11:02PM

Corsendonk wrote: »

Wanna pass the NCT, just bribe the NCT inspector! 100 euros to get a death trap passed.

Damn you RTE :mad:

I could've gotten my car passed for the next decade if I had known that!

:pac:

paulgalway · 16-05-2011 11:04PM

Agent_47 wrote: »

AA will drop in un-announced.

Conor Faughan on the Frontline stated they only check the equipment being used (calibrated, etc) and they do notify the centres when they are coming - sometimes.

Corsendonk · 16-05-2011 11:11PM

kbannon wrote: »

Why would the NRA complain to the gardai?

Well bribery of inspectors by customers, you know the NRA are going to try to shift the blame from themselves to the company running the NCT.

phasers · 16-05-2011 11:14PM

I've a mate who can get any car passed because he knows someone at an NCT centre... this has been going on for years all over the country.

The system needs a complete overhall. The amount of people around here who drive total deathtraps (road-legal ones too) is ridiculous.

If the NCT is really to do with safety then why not lower the price? make it 30 quid or something so nobody can moan about it.

Seth Brundle · 16-05-2011 11:14PM

paulgalway wrote: »

Conor Faughan on the Frontline stated they only check the equipment being used (calibrated, etc) and they do notify the centres when they are coming - sometimes.

Is it really the AA's job to check the NCT is impartial? I would have thought that this would lie with the DoE, RSA or some other sate organisation.

Corsendonk wrote: »

Well bribery of inspectors by customers, you know the NRA are going to try to shift the blame from themselves to the company running the NCT.

NRA or RSA?
NRA: The Authority's primary function, under the Roads Act 1993, is to secure the provision of a safe and efficient network of National roads. For this purpose, it has overall responsibility for planning and supervision of construction and maintenance works on these roads.
If you mean the RSA, then why wouldn't they shift the blame onto the company employing those who are corrupt? The RSA's role is to implement a testing system. They awarded the contract to Applus. They didn't give Applus the right to allow corrupt testers to give out certs for cash.

JohnMarston · 19-05-2011 08:51AM

NCT system seems rotten to the core, but hey its a great money maker for those involved! :pac:

WindSock · 19-05-2011 09:15AM

Why do they have to fire the crooked ones just weeks before mine.

Seth Brundle · 19-05-2011 09:21AM

WindSock wrote: »

Why do they have to fire the crooked ones just weeks before mine.

Had you been planning on bribing them?

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