NCT MORE HIKES, POORER PAY

jakdelad · 28-04-2011 08:12PM #1

same ould story NCT have announced any car over from the first of june over 10 years old will have to have an annual test
this they say is an EEC directive
but it was alright before now
more bullsh1t to screw the ordinary joe again
no doubt the spin post will flow......
how far do you go with this logic
so a car 20 yrs old will that get tested every six months???
well if your applying the same logic to 10 yr old cars this makes sense???
but a thirty yr old car needs no test??
they test every car but wont release info on which vechicles are the best wearing as regards brakes etc useful stuff that the motorist could use.
the stastics from the RSA,the AA, the gardai time and time again
show in over 90% of accidents are not caused by defective cars
its speed drug n drink driving......
the people with older cars are gonna be hit the hardest
most of these folk are struggeling at the moment
thank you NCT

voter1983 · 28-04-2011 09:14PM

More needless crap from the E.U. nanny state

RichardAnd · 28-04-2011 09:22PM

An info on what this will cost and what it will involve?

My brother and I share a 00 micra that, whilst not flash, is a supremely reliable car that has never given any hassle to either of us. Idiots behind the wheel cause accidents, not the car itself.

flutered · 28-04-2011 09:24PM

add on an extra 2% on fuel next january to help save the planet, a raise in road tax also in january, then add another 2% on our insuranse come september to pay off sean quinns gambling debts, all this before michael noonan casts his beady eye on the down trodden motorist.

ardmacha · 28-04-2011 09:25PM

the people with older cars are gonna be hit the hardest

People with little money and old cars are exactly the people whose cars should be tested as they might be tempted to economise on essential repairs.

themadchef · 28-04-2011 09:48PM

My car is ten years old. NCT last week and ended up spending €300 to get it up to standard, €300 i would most likely not have spent were i not forced to.

Thank you Minister, you might have saved more than my life. Im too much of a ckeapskate to put any value on it myself.

We need to make sure every car on the road is a safe car. If €50 a year is too much, then frankly you cant afford to be on the road. If your car needs fixing, then fix it, for all our sakes!

4zn76tysfajdxp · 28-04-2011 09:51PM

jakdelad wrote: »

the people with older cars are gonna be hit the hardest
most of these folk are struggeling at the moment

Yeah, struggling because they can't control their dangerous, rusting shitboxes.

Solnskaya · 28-04-2011 10:11PM

Bah, I thought from the title that NCT workers were going to be forced to take up hillwalking and have their pay cut, all good stuff so far. Then it turns out that its just a whinge that you can't drive around in a deathtrap anymore. Ah well.

orourkeda · 28-04-2011 10:12PM

Get the bus

landsleaving · 28-04-2011 10:15PM

I must admit, I only skimmed the thread title, but if the poor want to pay me to go on a hike, I'm all for it.

jakdelad · 28-04-2011 10:31PM

Jameson Ripe Quarter wrote: »

Yeah, struggling because they can't control their dangerous, rusting shitboxes.

but it was ok to have a sh1tbox before the first of june
all of a sudden cars just fall apart and have to be tested every year
so if you apply their logic any car 20 years old should be tested
every six months??
however if you drive a thirty year old car you need no test??

oh i see now
so its not about gouging more money? its a safety issue [ wakey wakey folks]

but the very old sh1tbox rolls that carrys the president
thats ok?

CreepingDeath · 28-04-2011 10:34PM

jakdelad wrote: »

same ould story NCT have announced any car over from the first of june over 10 years old will have to have an annual test
this they say is an EEC directive

Yeah, to boost sales of EU car makers.
And only allowing EU safety rated tyres boosts the sales of EU made tyres.

Oranage2 · 28-04-2011 10:39PM

Havent drove i over a year because of the cost of insurrance etc, with this new charge i cant see myself driving for a long time

4zn76tysfajdxp · 28-04-2011 10:42PM

jakdelad wrote: »

but it was ok to have a sh1tbox before the first of june

Have to start some time.

all of a sudden cars just fall apart and have to be tested every year
so if you apply their logic any car 20 years old should be tested
every six months??
however if you drive a thirty year old car you need no test??

Fine by me. If it was up to me, every car on the road would be tested annually. Even new ones. **** it, every driver should be able to afford €50 a year and to possibly take a day off work.

oh i see now
so its not about gouging more money? its a safety issue [ wakey wakey folks]

Right. Gouging €50 a year.

but the very old sh1tbox rolls that carrys the president
thats ok?

I dunno. As I said, if it was up to me it'd be tested annually.

Oranage2 · 28-04-2011 10:46PM

Jameson Ripe Quarter wrote: »

Have to start some time.

Fine by me. If it was up to me, every car on the road would be tested annually. Even new ones. **** it, every driver should be able to afford €50 a year and to possibly take a day off work.

Right. Gouging €50 a year.

I dunno. As I said, if it was up to me it'd be tested annually.

:rolleyes:

Obviously frada doesnt drive or if he does, mammy lets him borrow her brand new one!

4zn76tysfajdxp · 28-04-2011 10:51PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Obviously frada doesnt drive or if he does, mammy lets him borrow her brand new one!

I do drive. My own car, in fact.

slimjimmc · 28-04-2011 10:53PM

This announcement seems to have come as a surprise to many people even though it has been published a long time ago. The Irish Times announced it on Wed 12 Dec 2009, nearly a year and a half ago and citizensinfomation.ie has it posted since 28/07/2010.

Guy:Incognito · 28-04-2011 10:55PM

slimjimmc wrote: »

This announcement seems to have come as a surprise to many people even though it has been published a long time ago. The Irish Times announced it on Wed 12 Dec 2009, nearly a year and a half ago and citizensinfomation.ie has it posted since 28/07/2010.

The rabble doesnt work to any government sponsored oppression machince like a calendar.

flutered · 28-04-2011 11:06PM

Jameson Ripe Quarter wrote: »

Yeah, struggling because they can't control their dangerous, rusting shitboxes.

excuse me do not judge every one by your own standards, i have a 95 reg vehicle, it is tested until 2013, i take care of my vehicles, i have and will continue to do so, it is the continous taxation that will deter people from testing, if it come down to test or tax i will tax each time.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 28-04-2011 11:11PM

flutered wrote: »

excuse me do not judge every one by your own standards, i have a 95 reg vehicle, it is tested until 2013, i take care of my vehicles, i have and will continue to do so, it is the continous taxation that will deter people from testing, if it come down to test or tax i will tax each time.

That's fine. Nothing wrong with driving an old car if it's safe to drive. My point is that all cars should be tested on a regular basis to make sure that they are, in fact, safe. Nothing more than that.

Seth Brundle · 28-04-2011 11:17PM

slimjimmc wrote: »

This announcement seems to have come as a surprise to many people even though it has been published a long time ago. The Irish Times announced it on Wed 12 Dec 2009, nearly a year and a half ago and citizensinfomation.ie has it posted since 28/07/2010.

Like the Rules of the Road* and all other info for motorists out there, most Irish people don't bother their arse reading this stuff!

*based on the fact that most people behind the wheel can't drive

JJJJNR · 28-04-2011 11:31PM

50 euro is a lot though to just hook up a few machines and to do a visual inspection.. it should be free and part of the service of paying your road tax...IMO as anyone with a pre 08 car is already being fleeced...

In the long run its "the poorer" :rolleyes: that will benefit from this as they will be getting better cars as they become cheaper so its a win win situation.

Seth Brundle · 28-04-2011 11:36PM

JJJJNR wrote: »

50 euro is a lot though to just hook up a few machines and to do an visual inspection.. it should be free and part of the service of paying your road tax...IMO as anyone with a pre 08 car is already being fleeced...

In the long run its "the poorer" :rolleyes: that will benefit from this as they will be getting better cars as they become cheaper so its a win win situation.

What road tax would that be?
As for being fleeced, we are fleeced from the moment we buy the car (what with double taxation) but have happily gone out and bought new cars in the past, so whats wrong with another bit of money being pulled from our wallets?

mickdw · 28-04-2011 11:50PM

If you are driving a 10 year old car, the test is going to cost €50 approx. If the car is a good as you think, it will cost no more. If it needs extra money spending then the test has been very worth while.
I would agree with annual testing from 3 years old. It might also help to keep some record of mileage to fight clocking.
There are ALOT of people in Ireland who buy reasonable cars at 3 or 4 years old and have zero respect and just drive them to sh1t. They will go around for years if allowed with blown bulbs, unfocused headlights, airbags light on and therefore most likely not functioning, not to mention bald tyres. An annual test to protect them from themselves is no harm at all.

JJJJNR · 28-04-2011 11:54PM

Fair enough, we shouldn't be paying anything to test the cars the gov should handle all this testing as part of all the taxes already paid on the car, I have no problem with cars being tested every year if they are in bad condition, but any car will pass with parts that have 10 - 15% service life left, maybe the operators need to review this rather than test every year.

starbelgrade · 29-04-2011 12:29AM

I have two cars. One's a decent one & the is an 11 year old runaround.

I brought the newer car for testing in January. It failed on emissions. I brought it back for re-testing without doing anything except driving it hard to clear the exhaust (as I knew there was nothing wrong with it) and it passed.

I don't use the other car for much & have it loaned out to a mate who needs a run-around. I gave it to him on the proviso he got some work done to it & got it NCT'd.

It was tested in March & he hadn't done anything with it.

The brake pads were worn down to the metal, the discs are rusty, one of the wing mirrors is broken and it hasn't been serviced in over 3 years because it's not worth spending the money on. Oh, and the coolant tank was leaky.

It passed without any questions.

Two weeks later, it gave up the ghost & the engined seized on a bad bend on the N17.

The NCT is supposed to be a certificate stating that your car is roadworthy. This car was clearly not. My other car clearly was, yet it failed.

So, personally, I think the NCT is a load of cock.

Celly Smunt · 29-04-2011 12:36AM

couple of years ago i paid €50 to put my car which was perfect through and the c*nts failed me because i had child locks on,so then i had to spend another €50 to put it through again the same day while the child locks were off and it passed.pure money spinner.

OutlawPete · 29-04-2011 12:40AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

So, personally, I think the NCT is a load of cock.

The biggest problem with the NCT is consistency (or lack of it) and the fact that they employ tossers who are not trained correctly (or at least so it appears). If some of the guys doing the NCT tests were to treat cars in dealerships and the like the way they do during the test, they would be out on their ears .. and fast.

Over the years I have had them BREAK cars that I have left in to be NCT'd. They have snapped a hand break cable, broke an armrest and blown a turbo of one TDI I owned.

Most recently I was failed on the NCT for my lights not being correctly aligned despite the fact that they were aligned the morning of the test. Had them rechecked for the re-test and my mechanic said they do not need relining and left them as is and it passed. NCT is a good idea in practice, just a poorly executed one as it stands.

Celly Smunt · 29-04-2011 12:42AM

OutlawPete wrote: »

The biggest problem with the NCT is consistency (or lack of it) and the fact that they employ tossers who are not trained correctly (or at least so it appears). If some of the guys doing the NCT tests were to treat cars in dealerships and the like the way they do during the test, they would be out on their ears .. and fast.

Over the years I have had them BREAK cars that I have left in to be NCT'd. They have snapped a hand break cable, broke an armrest and blown a turbo of one TDI I owned.

i got a dipstick dropped into my engine which i then had to pay to get towed and stripped out,fcking idiots the lot of them.

starbelgrade · 29-04-2011 12:48AM

pmcmahon wrote: »

i got a dipstick dropped into my engine

Oooh, Matron!

skelliser · 29-04-2011 12:55AM

expect more of these stealth taxes in the years to come.

does any of the money raised with the NCT go to the upkeep of the roads network?

NCT MORE HIKES, POORER PAY

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