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NCT MORE HIKES, POORER PAY

jakdelad

same ould story NCT have announced any car over from the first of june over 10 years old will have to have an annual test
this they say is an EEC directive
but it was alright before now
more bullsh1t to screw the ordinary joe again
no doubt the spin post will flow......
how far do you go with this logic
so a car 20 yrs old will that get tested every six months???
well if your applying the same logic to 10 yr old cars this makes sense???
but a thirty yr old car needs no test??
they test every car but wont release info on which vechicles are the best wearing as regards brakes etc useful stuff that the motorist could use.
the stastics from the RSA,the AA, the gardai time and time again
show in over 90% of accidents are not caused by defective cars
its speed drug n drink driving......
the people with older cars are gonna be hit the hardest
most of these folk are struggeling at the moment
thank you NCT

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johngalway

NCT is NOT the Holy Grail of car mechanical safety. I have heard tales, true tales, not tall ones, of cars which passed the test (one of those flying cars again) but which the owners/drivers freely admits contain defective aspects that are not safe.

For that reason I cast a leery eye on the NCT. It's not worthless, but it's far from perfect.

2 stroke

What we realy need is a NRT (national road test). Our councils are getting away with murder. Cars are being wrecked by neglected roads. Its considered acceptable to put up a sign saying "Dangerous Bends" and not do anything about the problem.

Oranage2

starbelgrade wrote: »

So, personally, I think the NCT is a load of cock.

Exactly - also a lot of the garages know the tester so its very common for testers to pass crappy cars from garages for a 'special fee'

Celly Smunt

OutlawPete wrote: »

Did they cover any of the cost at all?

got the next visit free :rolleyes:

OutlawPete

pmcmahon wrote: »

i got a dipstick dropped into my engine which i then had to pay to get towed and stripped out,fcking idiots the lot of them.

Did they cover any of the cost at all?

Apparently they blow so many turbos that they had to introduce a special form for TDI owners to sign that pretty much states that if they blow, it won't be their fault. Have another NCT quite soon so will find out I guess.

skelliser

expect more of these stealth taxes in the years to come.

does any of the money raised with the NCT go to the upkeep of the roads network?

starbelgrade

pmcmahon wrote: »

i got a dipstick dropped into my engine

Oooh, Matron!

Celly Smunt

OutlawPete wrote: »

The biggest problem with the NCT is consistency (or lack of it) and the fact that they employ tossers who are not trained correctly (or at least so it appears). If some of the guys doing the NCT tests were to treat cars in dealerships and the like the way they do during the test, they would be out on their ears .. and fast.

Over the years I have had them BREAK cars that I have left in to be NCT'd. They have snapped a hand break cable, broke an armrest and blown a turbo of one TDI I owned.

i got a dipstick dropped into my engine which i then had to pay to get towed and stripped out,fcking idiots the lot of them.

OutlawPete

starbelgrade wrote: »

So, personally, I think the NCT is a load of cock.

The biggest problem with the NCT is consistency (or lack of it) and the fact that they employ tossers who are not trained correctly (or at least so it appears). If some of the guys doing the NCT tests were to treat cars in dealerships and the like the way they do during the test, they would be out on their ears .. and fast.

Over the years I have had them BREAK cars that I have left in to be NCT'd. They have snapped a hand break cable, broke an armrest and blown a turbo of one TDI I owned.

Most recently I was failed on the NCT for my lights not being correctly aligned despite the fact that they were aligned the morning of the test. Had them rechecked for the re-test and my mechanic said they do not need relining and left them as is and it passed. NCT is a good idea in practice, just a poorly executed one as it stands.

Celly Smunt

couple of years ago i paid €50 to put my car which was perfect through and the c*nts failed me because i had child locks on,so then i had to spend another €50 to put it through again the same day while the child locks were off and it passed.pure money spinner.

starbelgrade

I have two cars. One's a decent one & the is an 11 year old runaround.

I brought the newer car for testing in January. It failed on emissions. I brought it back for re-testing without doing anything except driving it hard to clear the exhaust (as I knew there was nothing wrong with it) and it passed.

I don't use the other car for much & have it loaned out to a mate who needs a run-around. I gave it to him on the proviso he got some work done to it & got it NCT'd.

It was tested in March & he hadn't done anything with it.

The brake pads were worn down to the metal, the discs are rusty, one of the wing mirrors is broken and it hasn't been serviced in over 3 years because it's not worth spending the money on. Oh, and the coolant tank was leaky.

It passed without any questions.

Two weeks later, it gave up the ghost & the engined seized on a bad bend on the N17.

The NCT is supposed to be a certificate stating that your car is roadworthy. This car was clearly not. My other car clearly was, yet it failed.

So, personally, I think the NCT is a load of cock.

JJJJNR

Fair enough, we shouldn't be paying anything to test the cars the gov should handle all this testing as part of all the taxes already paid on the car, I have no problem with cars being tested every year if they are in bad condition, but any car will pass with parts that have 10 - 15% service life left, maybe the operators need to review this rather than test every year.

mickdw

If you are driving a 10 year old car, the test is going to cost €50 approx. If the car is a good as you think, it will cost no more. If it needs extra money spending then the test has been very worth while.
I would agree with annual testing from 3 years old. It might also help to keep some record of mileage to fight clocking.
There are ALOT of people in Ireland who buy reasonable cars at 3 or 4 years old and have zero respect and just drive them to sh1t. They will go around for years if allowed with blown bulbs, unfocused headlights, airbags light on and therefore most likely not functioning, not to mention bald tyres. An annual test to protect them from themselves is no harm at all.

Seth Brundle

JJJJNR wrote: »

50 euro is a lot though to just hook up a few machines and to do an visual inspection.. it should be free and part of the service of paying your road tax...IMO as anyone with a pre 08 car is already being fleeced...

In the long run its "the poorer" :rolleyes: that will benefit from this as they will be getting better cars as they become cheaper so its a win win situation.

What road tax would that be?
As for being fleeced, we are fleeced from the moment we buy the car (what with double taxation) but have happily gone out and bought new cars in the past, so whats wrong with another bit of money being pulled from our wallets?

JJJJNR

50 euro is a lot though to just hook up a few machines and to do a visual inspection.. it should be free and part of the service of paying your road tax...IMO as anyone with a pre 08 car is already being fleeced...

In the long run its "the poorer" :rolleyes: that will benefit from this as they will be getting better cars as they become cheaper so its a win win situation.

Seth Brundle

slimjimmc wrote: »

This announcement seems to have come as a surprise to many people even though it has been published a long time ago. The Irish Times announced it on Wed 12 Dec 2009, nearly a year and a half ago and citizensinfomation.ie has it posted since 28/07/2010.

Like the Rules of the Road* and all other info for motorists out there, most Irish people don't bother their arse reading this stuff!

*based on the fact that most people behind the wheel can't drive

4zn76tysfajdxp

flutered wrote: »

excuse me do not judge every one by your own standards, i have a 95 reg vehicle, it is tested until 2013, i take care of my vehicles, i have and will continue to do so, it is the continous taxation that will deter people from testing, if it come down to test or tax i will tax each time.

That's fine. Nothing wrong with driving an old car if it's safe to drive. My point is that all cars should be tested on a regular basis to make sure that they are, in fact, safe. Nothing more than that.

flutered

Jameson Ripe Quarter wrote: »

Yeah, struggling because they can't control their dangerous, rusting shitboxes.

excuse me do not judge every one by your own standards, i have a 95 reg vehicle, it is tested until 2013, i take care of my vehicles, i have and will continue to do so, it is the continous taxation that will deter people from testing, if it come down to test or tax i will tax each time.

Guy:Incognito

slimjimmc wrote: »

This announcement seems to have come as a surprise to many people even though it has been published a long time ago. The Irish Times announced it on Wed 12 Dec 2009, nearly a year and a half ago and citizensinfomation.ie has it posted since 28/07/2010.

The rabble doesnt work to any government sponsored oppression machince like a calendar.

slimjimmc

This announcement seems to have come as a surprise to many people even though it has been published a long time ago. The Irish Times announced it on Wed 12 Dec 2009, nearly a year and a half ago and citizensinfomation.ie has it posted since 28/07/2010.

4zn76tysfajdxp

Oranage2 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Obviously frada doesnt drive or if he does, mammy lets him borrow her brand new one!

I do drive. My own car, in fact.

Oranage2

Jameson Ripe Quarter wrote: »

Have to start some time.

Fine by me. If it was up to me, every car on the road would be tested annually. Even new ones. **** it, every driver should be able to afford €50 a year and to possibly take a day off work.

Right. Gouging €50 a year.

I dunno. As I said, if it was up to me it'd be tested annually.

:rolleyes:

Obviously frada doesnt drive or if he does, mammy lets him borrow her brand new one!

4zn76tysfajdxp

jakdelad wrote: »

but it was ok to have a sh1tbox before the first of june

Have to start some time.

all of a sudden cars just fall apart and have to be tested every year
so if you apply their logic any car 20 years old should be tested
every six months??
however if you drive a thirty year old car you need no test??

Fine by me. If it was up to me, every car on the road would be tested annually. Even new ones. **** it, every driver should be able to afford €50 a year and to possibly take a day off work.

oh i see now
so its not about gouging more money? its a safety issue [ wakey wakey folks]

Right. Gouging €50 a year.

but the very old sh1tbox rolls that carrys the president
thats ok?

I dunno. As I said, if it was up to me it'd be tested annually.

Oranage2

Havent drove i over a year because of the cost of insurrance etc, with this new charge i cant see myself driving for a long time

CreepingDeath

jakdelad wrote: »

same ould story NCT have announced any car over from the first of june over 10 years old will have to have an annual test
this they say is an EEC directive

Yeah, to boost sales of EU car makers.
And only allowing EU safety rated tyres boosts the sales of EU made tyres.

jakdelad

Jameson Ripe Quarter wrote: »

Yeah, struggling because they can't control their dangerous, rusting shitboxes.

but it was ok to have a sh1tbox before the first of june
all of a sudden cars just fall apart and have to be tested every year
so if you apply their logic any car 20 years old should be tested
every six months??
however if you drive a thirty year old car you need no test??

oh i see now
so its not about gouging more money? its a safety issue [ wakey wakey folks]

but the very old sh1tbox rolls that carrys the president
thats ok?

landsleaving

I must admit, I only skimmed the thread title, but if the poor want to pay me to go on a hike, I'm all for it.

orourkeda

Get the bus

Solnskaya

Bah, I thought from the title that NCT workers were going to be forced to take up hillwalking and have their pay cut, all good stuff so far. Then it turns out that its just a whinge that you can't drive around in a deathtrap anymore. Ah well.

4zn76tysfajdxp

jakdelad wrote: »

the people with older cars are gonna be hit the hardest
most of these folk are struggeling at the moment

Yeah, struggling because they can't control their dangerous, rusting shitboxes.