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NFL DRAFT 2011

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  • #392
    Peyton Manning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Go on, only one day left. Time to name all your Snakes and Ladders. Snake is someone who will slide (i.e. Clausen last year) and Ladder is someone who will rise (Tyson Alulaualaualau for example) in comparison to where the consensus is they go. Also name the one non-headline guy you'll be keeping an eye out for.


  • #393
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,968 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Ladder: Ryan Mallet, a 1st round pick imo, possible top 15 when some say 2nd. Washington maybe. It may seem a reach but if he is your guy, take him. Trading back for value doesn't always work out.

    Snake: Nick Fairley
    7 starts in 2008 for a community college, 2 starts in 2009 for Auburn and then a fantastic season in 2010. Projected top ten, I see him falling out of the top 15. He is No 8 to the Titans in our draft.
    Not a huge ladder but then two months ago he was touted as a possible Number 1 pick
    Honourable mention to Mark Ingram

    Non-headline: Edmund Gates, WR. Workout Warrior at the Combine!
    6' 1", 195lbs, a 4.37 in the 40
    Some projected him to go in the 5th, I project the 3rd, some team will fall in love with him
    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d81ea55cd/2011-combine-workout-Edmond-Gates


  • #394
    Hulk Hands
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,019 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    Snake Nick Fairley, Peterson (won't go before 5/6), Mark Ingram

    Ladder: Liguet (sp?), Ryan Mallet, Du'Quan Bowers (won't fall as far as expected)

    Ahmad Black - Watch out for later on.

    Edit: Might seem like I copied Feelingstressed, but was busy writing my post before his was up!


  • #395
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,968 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I know, sure we posted much the same time, well two minutes apart anyway

    And sure no real surprises in both our posts, it's what many are predicting


  • #396
    landsleaving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    Snake:

    Gabbert, I think teams will be reluctant to take a QB that early with similar players available in the second round and the lockout not sorted out yet, so he'll fall out of the top ten.

    Green, think Jones will go ahead of him, and he'll fall like Crabtree did. Most teams picking early have bigger problems than receiver.

    Akeem Ayers, a lot of teams are after a pass rusher, but will probably stick to the strong end class, rather than an OLB who is, for me, a big drop from Miller. Similar quality is available later.

    Ladder:

    Dalton and Ponder. Could see these guys going late first round, either to Seattle or elsewhere in pick trades. Smart, accurate guys who are overshadowed by big athletic prospects like Locker, good fits for the Redskins and Hawks I think.

    Stephen Paea, monster combine workout, can command double teams and plays at a need position for a lot of teams.

    Jimmy Smith, projected low because of off the field stuff, but far too many teams have needs in the secondary to pass up his talents. I see him going early.

    Non-headline

    Taiwan Jones, RB - Fastest back at the combine and I think teams will see him as a Chris Johnson/Jamaal Charles type. I think he's been going up most draft boards lately though, so not sure if he's still particularly non-headline.


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  • #397
    tallaghtoutlaws
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Snakes:

    Cam Newton - If Carolina pass on Newton I see him dropping to the 2nd round. Only Carolina have the huge hard on for the lad so far.

    Mark Ingram - With the amount of backs in the Draft that are of the same quality if he goes on the first round as projected I will be surprised.

    Ladders:

    Mark Herzlich - Many mocks have him 5-7 or undrafted. Before he got sick he led the ACC in tackles. When he came back he shared was one of two solid Inside Linebacker with Kuechly at OLB in that BC Defensive backfield so the limelight was taken off him somewhat for ability but he looked sharp. He is a pure run stuffer but lacks in Coverage which can be fixed. His work etiquette alone for me is enough to bump him up to back end of the 2nd to top of the 4th. Had he not been out with his illness he was a first rounder without a shadow of a doubt in last years draft.

    As for anyone else moving up the ladder its hard to say as the draft in my eyes is too unpredictable already. Easy to give reasons for someone dropping than someone moving up.


  • #398
    neilster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭neilster


    tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »
    I am seriously beginning to think you read what you want to read and not respond to the whole post. The discussion was about how good their O-line was, not will be. And you missed my point about Robinson completely No sense adding Robinson to the mix as guess what? He didn't play, so whatever he adds future on down the line has no bearing on what we were discussing. And as he didn't play there was absolutely no way to gauge how good he is or isn't.




    But we weren't talking about the future of the o-line, we were talking about how sh1t it was for the last two seasons. My main point stands they failed to protect their QBs simple as. And they were one of the main reasons why their passing game failed.

    As for beating someone over the head :rolleyes: Yeah thats what was happening. I must try use that the next time someone disagrees with my posts.

    I guess it is one of those instances we will agree to disagree because it doesn't ever seem like you will stay on point with the discussion.

    because it doesn't ever seem like you will stay on point with the discussion .....hilarious ...i know why all of this is going on and it very little to do with Carolina .....a little more northerly i think

    i absolutely love the way you move the goalposts ..you explain how bad they are ...i say there is 3 very decent players in there ..you mention 09 ...i mention the sterling 08 team ...and you show the gradual degradation from 08....12-4.....to the two win 2010 season ....and i explain that some starters didnt make the season and 1-2 of the 3 real stellar players in it didnt play a full part and as a result i feel this is a fixable part and you say not that its useless and a shambles ...and just when you might have difficulty .....the goalposts are moving again..its what did happen not what will

    remember the context ...they needing to select newton ...you saying to go defense .....me saying that QB is a problem...you saying Clausen deserves a chance and that Newton or anyone will be creamed because of that Oline ....me saying its fixable ...or the future outcome of the O-Line

    you cant say someone is off-topic when it suits you ....im within context ....as i said to others you cant criticise someone for a topic or a context or waffle when you have been quite happy to discuss their O-Lines prospects and suddenly ..."thats not we are talking about " come off it

    The line up in 2011 will be very similar as there is people returning from IR and Carolina it appears wont even visit the Oline in the third round

    You like people to back down and i wont and on Friday ...Carolina will pick Newton ...they will allow Clausen to start .....and Newton will be eased in ...he will do ok when he finally gets playing time and the Oline will do alright ...they will visit the DE or DT position in the third round ....a Drake Nevis for instance ....they wont do stellar but alright and the running game will carry them a good bit ...id say a 5-6 win season and that would be ok


    when someone has a number 1 pick 90% of the reason is Quarterback play, theres other reasons sure...but you wont have that no 1 pick with agood Quarterback play and bad play elsewhere ...refusing to deal with that is not dealing with the reality of the situation

    if you say that is correct but Newton isnt good enough i can handle that ...i just rate him higher


  • #399
    Hulk Hands
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    tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »
    Snakes:

    Cam Newton - If Carolina pass on Newton I see him dropping to the 2nd round. Only Carolina have the huge hard on for the lad so far.

    Ah thats a bit OTT. The only reason many teams aren't connected with him is because he seems a cert for the first 3. If he doesn't go at 1, he could be picked up easily at 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12, 15, 23, 25 etc. I'd give about 20/1 on him falling out of the 1st.


  • #400
    neilster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭neilster


    tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »
    Snakes:

    Cam Newton - If Carolina pass on Newton I see him dropping to the 2nd round. Only Carolina have the huge hard on for the lad so far.

    Mark Ingram - With the amount of backs in the Draft that are of the same quality if he goes on the first round as projected I will be surprised.

    Ladders:

    Mark Herzlich - Many mocks have him 5-7 or undrafted. Before he got sick he led the ACC in tackles. When he came back he shared was one of two solid Inside Linebacker with Kuechly at OLB in that BC Defensive backfield so the limelight was taken off him somewhat for ability but he looked sharp. He is a pure run stuffer but lacks in Coverage which can be fixed. His work etiquette alone for me is enough to bump him up to back end of the 2nd to top of the 4th. Had he not been out with his illness he was a first rounder without a shadow of a doubt in last years draft.

    As for anyone else moving up the ladder its hard to say as the draft in my eyes is too unpredictable already. Easy to give reasons for someone dropping than someone moving up.

    You can take this to the bank ...Cam Newton will not drop to the second round ......if he passes by Carolina ....are you saying Buffalo/Cincy/Arizona/Tennesse/Washington/Minnesota/Miami arent going to pick him ...i can explain some of them away but not them all and that doesnt take into account a number of them trading into the lower first as he slides past those teams who didnt pick him already ...New England has no 33 which would be a natural home for Newton in your theory on a slide

    someone will package picks to move up past that 33 pick as there will be a whole night to trade that pick

    Mark Ingram i would agree with ...he could slide as far as Tampa and the Giants in the second as could LeShoure

    i could see Jabaal Sheard climbing into the early to mid second or higher


  • #401
    neilster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭neilster


    Ladder :
    I see Mallett as the ultimate Snake some see him at Miami as i feel they may have cooled on Ingram ....but teams who pass him on their first pick will package to trade back into late first round for him

    also Brooks Read and Jimmy Smith

    Snake:
    Da Quan Bowers could slide as far as Tampa ....and also Adrian Clayborn cos of medical issues could slide as far as the middle of the second

    Stephen Paea ...he is a space eater but i think that is overplayed ...people are talking late 1st round ... i think he is challenged athletically and very raw..not that much upside ...id say SanFran in the middle of the second, Atlanta towards end of second

    Non Headline guy : Marcus Cannon - if he is sitting at the begining of third (this is unlikely as suits Green Bay's line ..the rich get richer) - would really suit Dallas for versatility as he could play Right Guard and be groomed for Center ...


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  • #402
    tallaghtoutlaws
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    neilster wrote: »
    because it doesn't ever seem like you will stay on point with the discussion .....hilarious ...i know why all of this is going on and it very little to do with Carolina .....a little more northerly i think

    You are going to have to explain that one? If you are trying to imply something feel free to say it. Lowering yourself down to take jabs is not going to do you any favours and this has nothing to do with anyone else if thats what you are implying.


    remember the context ...they needing to select newton ...you saying to go defense .....me saying that QB is a problem...you saying Clausen deserves a chance and that Newton or anyone will be creamed because of that Oline ....me saying its fixable ...or the future outcome of the O-Line

    You were the one who brought up the o-line see below. And based off 2011 unless you can see into the future all the babble you came out with proves nothing.
    you cant say someone is off-topic when it suits you ....im within context ....as i said to others you cant criticise someone for a topic or a context or waffle when you have been quite happy to discuss their O-Lines prospects and suddenly ..."thats not we are talking about " come off it

    Got to laugh at this off topic? Once again you waffle on so much off topic its hard to debate with you. You steer it where you want and then clearly backtrack.
    The line up in 2011 will be very similar as there is people returning from IR and Carolina it appears wont even visit the Oline in the third round

    Mystic Neilster watch out Meg.
    You like people to back down and i wont and on Friday ...Carolina will pick Newton ...they will allow Clausen to start .....and Newton will be eased in ...he will do ok when he finally gets playing time and the Oline will do alright ...they will visit the DE or DT position in the third round ....a Drake Nevis for instance ....they wont do stellar but alright and the running game will carry them a good bit ...id say a 5-6 win season and that would be ok

    Back down? :rolleyes: Wait didn't you already back down by saying we were beating this over the head? So if that was the case I would have accepted you bowing out if I wanted you to back down.

    Hate to be you if you are wrong. At least I will admit I am wrong and if they go Newton and he does alright I will accept that. But to think you are the messiah and all knowing one and can see into the future and be so arrogant about it is where you go wrong.

    when someone has a number 1 pick 90% of the reason is Quarterback play, theres other reasons sure...but you wont have that no 1 pick with agood Quarterback play and bad play elsewhere ...refusing to deal with that is not dealing with the reality of the situation

    if you say that is correct but Newton isnt good enough i can handle that ...i just rate him higher

    What the fook are you talking about? I never said Newton was a bad QB. I just don't think Carolina should take him. He is definitely in the top 5 QBs in the draft but where on the list is debatable.

    Oh and for the record going into 2011 I never argued here is quotes from me on the issue:
    The Panthers primary need isnt QB though and it wasn't for a long time leading up to this draft. QB is far from their primary need. I
    Where did I say I rate Clausen? I said he hasn't been given a chance. The Panthers are sh1te lets get that simple fact out of the way. Any QB in that offense in 2010 would have struggled.


    Here is the part where you picked up your jumpers and moved the goalposts:
    i absolutely love the way you move the goalposts ..you explain how bad they are ...i say there is 3 very decent players in there ..you mention 09 ...i mention the sterling 08 team ...and you show the gradual degradation from 08....12-4.....to the two win 2010 season ....and i explain that some starters didnt make the season and 1-2 of the 3 real stellar players in it didnt play a full part and as a result i feel this is a fixable part and you say not that its useless and a shambles ...and just when you might have difficulty .....the goalposts are moving again..its what did happen not what will

    This post here shows clearly where you moved the goalposts. You were the one who brought up the O-line. And you got it wrong and then continued to move the goalposts again

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=71827074&postcount=339

    No where in our discussion did you mention going forward with the o-line as is until I presented you with facts. And then you used 2008 and 2011 and as your get out clause. And even where you mentioned 2011 I showed you the changes that o-line went through in 2 years and you tried to bow out and move the posts once again. The simple fact is 3 of those linemen are good but 2 of that 3 are carrying injuries. Then there is 2 average linemen one of which will be dropped and then 1 unproven player in Robinson who none of us can say is good or bad as he has yet to play in the Pros.

    So if you want to lower the tone and take jabs I am all for it as you can ask anyone on here I will oblige you. But what I wont take is someone try argue there way and back track out of the points they brought up and then when presented with facts move the goalposts and then throw accusations wildly to suit your own agenda.

    Might want to read your own pieces in future.


  • #403
    tallaghtoutlaws
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    Ah thats a bit OTT. The only reason many teams aren't connected with him is because he seems a cert for the first 3. If he doesn't go at 1, he could be picked up easily at 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12, 15, 23, 25 etc. I'd give about 20/1 on him falling out of the 1st.

    You are probably right but it is my opinion of things and there is a few out there that believe he will drop also. I don't agree with other peoples Snakes/Ladders but you don't see me objecting to them. We are all entitled to our opinion on this as Im sure Archie(Tom_Brady) meant this to be a bit of banter.
    neilster wrote: »
    You can take this to the bank ...Cam Newton will not drop to the second round ......if he passes by Carolina ....are you saying Buffalo/Cincy/Arizona/Tennesse/Washington/Minnesota/Miami arent going to pick him ...i can explain some of them away but not them all and that doesnt take into account a number of them trading into the lower first as he slides past those teams who didnt pick him already ...New England has no 33 which would be a natural home for Newton in your theory on a slide

    If I am wrong I will gladly accept that but would you ever grow up and put your **** back in your pants. I have no "Theory" on this. If you honestly think my post was nothing more than banter then you clearly are a............ And I thought I was the arrogant....... :rolleyes:


  • #404
    Mr. Guappa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,270 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Thought this was an interesting article on Bill Parcell's draft board: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/27/parcells-board-only-has-two-first-round-quarterback-values/#more-127544
    There’s one good way to spot a draftnik who is truly putting in the work watching tape and networking with his sources: His draft board doesn’t look like everyone else’s.

    One frustrating part of the pre-draft process is that as media covering the draft, we often reach a safe consensus that lacks original thinking and doesn’t match up with how teams view players. The reality is that teams disagree on prospect values far more than draft websites, which often only have minor differences.

    This thought hit me while watching Bill Parcells’ excellent draft special on ESPN. The Big Tuna has been preparing for this draft as if he’s in the league out of habit. We got to look at his big board, and his player evaluations had a lot of rankings you wouldn’t see on many draft websites.

    You would probably see them on some teams’ draft boards. Here were the most interesting rankings we saw:

    1. Quarterback: Cam Newton was ranked as a high first round pick, with Blaine Gabbert Parcells’ only other first-round value. Parcells had Ryan Mallett, Christian Ponder, and Jake Locker having second round value, with Locker low in the round.

    Andy Dalton was a third-round pick, with draftnik favorite (and PFT favorite) Colin Kaeprnick ranked as a late-third round value.

    2. Wide receiver: Pittsburgh’s Jonathan Baldwin was ranked as a third round prospect, which was a surprise.

    3. Running back: Mark Ingram got a first round grade from Parcells. Ryan Williams led three running backs that got second round grades.


    4. Tight end: Parcells believed Notre Dame’s Kyle Rudolph was worthy of a first round grade.

    5. Tackle: Nate Solder from Colarado was Parcells’ top tackle, ranked high in the round. Tyron Smith and Anthony Costanzo were the only other first round grades. Gabe Carimi was all the way down in the third round.

    6. Defensive end: This was Parcells’ most surprising position. He had Ohio State’s Cameron Heyward third at the deep position. Iowa’s Adrian Clayborn remained a firs round pick. Pittsburgh’s Jabaal Sheard was a third-round pick, while Arizona’s Brooks Reed was all the way down in the fourth round.

    That makes us wonder if Reed and Sheard will last longer than people expect on draft day.

    7. Defensive tackle: This position was fairly predictable, with Corey Liuget a second round grade a bit of a surprise.

    8. Linebacker: The most surprising grade on Parcells’ entire board was a first round grade for N.C. State’s Nate Irving. ESPN’s Mel Kiper called him a mid-third day pick. (3rd-to-7th round.)

    9. Cornerback: Parcells had Price Amukamara ranked ahead of Patrick Peterson.

    Parcells is only one opinion, but he shows how NFL evaluators truly do see players differently than the draft industrial complex consensus.

    So don’t be surprised if some of Parcells’ favorites get drafted earlier than expected — especially by the Dolphins.


  • #405
    Hulk Hands
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    neilster wrote: »
    Snake:
    Da Quan Bowers could slide as far as Tampa ....and also Adrian Clayborn cos of medical issues could slide as far as the middle of the second

    If Bowers gets drafted by Tampa, that would make him a ladder/reach etc. He is currently predicted lower in the majority of mocks. The slide you're talking about happened 3 weeks ago.
    tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »
    You are probably right but it is my opinion of things and there is a few out there that believe he will drop also. I don't agree with other peoples Snakes/Ladders but you don't see me objecting to them. We are all entitled to our opinion on this as Im sure Archie(Tom_Brady) meant this to be a bit of banter.

    Ah yeah, it is just a bit of banter, don't feel as though I was attacking your post :)


  • #406
    Peyton Manning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    TO is right, just a fun excercise is all. I'm all about the banter these days, just feeling the love of draft week. Won't see me causing any more trouble round here :)

    That is until I launch my Barkley > Luck campaign for next year, ye shower of Luck bandwagon bastards! :pac:


  • #407
    tallaghtoutlaws
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Tom_Brady wrote: »
    TO is right, just a fun excercise is all. I'm all about the banter these days, just feeling the love of draft week. Won't see me causing any more trouble round here :)

    That is until I launch my Barkley > Luck campaign for next year :P

    I like Barkley haha :D


  • #408
    tallaghtoutlaws
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    neilster wrote: »
    and also Adrian Clayborn cos of medical issues could slide as far as the middle of the second

    Since Hulk Hands kicked off and I got offended I might as well pick on other people's one for the sh1ts and giggles of it all. :D:D

    According to most sources many teams aren't concerned about the medical issue. Just look at Parcells notes that Mr Guappa posted. He has suffered from Erb's Palsy from Birth. It affects mainly his right arm or elbow but the odd time it affects his upper body strength. As far as I know he didn't do the bench press in the combine due to safety issues with his condition but his explosiveness alone is enough to keep him in round 1. If he drops top of round 2 at most. I could almost see the Pats taking him the top of the 2nd.:D

    Bowers Knee is his problem and has been dropping on many mocks for the last two weeks. Fear of his knee blowing out could be his downfall.


  • #409
    Peyton Manning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »
    I like Barkley haha :D

    You say that now, let's wait and see how you feel when I'm decked out in my MB sig and matching avatar polluting the forum with my pro Barkley propaganda for a whole offseason!


  • #410
    tallaghtoutlaws
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Tom_Brady wrote: »
    You say that now, let's wait and see how you feel when I'm decked out in my MB sig and matching avatar polluting the forum with my pro Barkley propaganda for a whole offseason!

    Not if I change my name before you to Barkley No1 :D


  • #411
    Peyton Manning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    I hear Matt Barkley has a charity foundation he runs by himself to support children that have been abused by Andrew Luck. :D


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  • #412
    Peyton Manning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »
    Not if I change my name before you to Barkley No1 :D

    Then I'll change my name to the newly vacant tallaghtoutlaws and starting posting how polished and accomplished a passer I think Cam Newton is! :eek:


  • #413
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,968 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Tom_Brady wrote: »
    Time to name all your Snakes and Ladders. Also name the one non-headline guy you'll be keeping an eye out for.

    We've done ours

    Now why don't you share your selections? ;)


  • #414
    Peyton Manning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    feelingstressed wrote: »
    We've done ours

    Now why don't you share your selections? ;)

    Jimmy Smith, Blaine Gabbert and Tandon Doss ;)


  • #415
    tallaghtoutlaws
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Tom_Brady wrote: »
    Then I'll change my name to the newly vacant tallaghtoutlaws and starting posting how polished and accomplished a passer I think Cam Newton is! :eek:

    Im a whisker away from a ban so be my guest robbing my name hahahahahaha :D


  • #416
    HigginsJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Ladders:

    DB Aaron Smith is potential top-flight safety but not sure how high he will go.

    Mike Pouncey may go few spots higher than the Giants (which is a pity)

    TE Kyle Rudolph could sneak into the 1st round & i think he is value anywhere below 20.


    Snake:

    Da'Quan Bowers - Seems like he is falling further and further in every mock draft. Someone is going to get an absolute steal with him.

    Mark Ingram - Wont go before 26 and may fall out of the 1st round altogether

    Jake Locker - Seems to have fallen behind Mallet in alot of lists. Considering he was touted as potential number 1 if he came out last year this seems crazy. He possesses alot of qualities bar questionable pocket accuracy. I'd take him at 10(skins) or 12(Vikes)


  • #417
    HigginsJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Just watched the QB Camp with John Gruden on ESPN. Jake Locker comes across much better than Blaine Gabbert.

    He seems very personable. Big tough guy. Seems intelligent. I could see him being the best QB in this draft class.


  • #418
    FewFew
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    Decent preview going on here it seems...

    http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/other_sports/21324/


  • #419
    TaosHum
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    Ladder:

    Leonard Hankerson WR
    Julius Thomas TE
    Brooks Reed DE/OLB
    Ryan Mallet QB
    Andy Dalton QB

    Snake:

    Daquan Bowers DE
    Nick Fairley DT
    Mark Ingram RB
    Kyle Rudolph TE
    Blaine Gabbert QB


  • #420
    Peyton Manning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    I could very well get fired for the amount of draft related sites I've been on today in work. Getting nothing done. Can't wait for tonight :D


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  • #421
    adrian522
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    How long will the draft go on for tonight?

    Starts at 1am, what time will they finish up?


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