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Paul Mcgrath Norman Whiteside drunk video

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  • #32
    parker kent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    Google seems to be a site many on Boards seem to not know about!


  • #33
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    parker kent wrote: »
    OK whilst laughing at an alcoholic is never right, the charge of hypocrisy against Irish people actually has some merit.

    Paul McGrath was a great player. Paul McGrath can be a nice man. But, and this is a big but, he criminally wasted God given ability and has done some terrible things in his life. Things that if Roy Keane, Wayne Rooney, John Terry et al did, would see them strung up on here.

    I'm sure the "wasted his talent" comment will make some people say "What about being PFA Player of the year? What about the performance against Italy?". I could list many other examples. But all I'm saying is that we should remember both sides of the man. Or at least be a little more tempered when slaughtering English footballers who are being far more professional. Alcoholism is a terrible disease and the man has my sympathies, but we can be hypocritical at times.

    It also seems strange that Robbie Keane gets slaughtered far more than McGrath, so it is not a pro-Irish/anti-English agenda. It just seems to me that Irish people have far greater sympathy for the rogue, boozehound type character than many other countries.

    McGrath is a national hero and I'm not trying to be iconoclastic. But hypocrisy is hypocrisy.

    When it comes to Paul McGrath the bolded part is the bottom line for me. He's a sick man. I don't like to see people laugh at him, or jeer him, not because he played well against Italy once, or is a nice man, or anything like that, but because he's completely and uterly at the mercy of alcohol. I have personal experience of alcoholism and the damage it does and its not to be made light of.

    The real hypocrisy in Ireland isn't so much the fact that Paul McGrath gets a free pass because he's likeable. The hypocrisy is in the fact that we turn a blind eye to drink and the damage it does and treat this illness like its a bit of a laugh because we all enjoy a few pints every now and then. The Irish public have facilitated his drinking and alomost revelled in it and even encouraged it at times, which is my major problem with the OP tbh. The rest of it is just a side issue.


  • #34
    parker kent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    I'd agree with all that, my point was more at the abuse given to other players who may have their own issues. We can be hypocritical.

    And Flah, I'm not sure everybody will think that way because of his alcoholism. I wish people just said "He's ill" but they don't. It's a joke to them or else it's the "Oh that Big Mc, up to no good again" type stuff. Then there will be plenty who'll go "you can't say that, he's an Irish legend" purely based on the romanticised version of him from Italia 90 and USA 94.

    Ireland and drink is a pretty complex thing.


  • #35
    CorkMan
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  • #36
    applehunter
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    Quality again:D


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  • #37
    Zebra3
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    parker kent wrote: »
    Ireland and drink is a pretty complex thing.

    I disagree.

    It's a simple addiction in a lot of cases.


  • #38
    parker kent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    I disagree.

    It's a simple addiction in a lot of cases.

    I thought it was fairly clear I was talking about the reactions of Irish people to alcoholics and drink in general, not the actual addiction.


  • #39
    [Deleted User]
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    Anyone who hasn't read Back from the Brink should do so. It details his struggles with alcoholism along with his life in football etc.

    Fantastic book.


  • #40
    Cantona's Collars
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    I have been in Paul McGraths company when he's been on the drink-it's sad to see.He goes from an easy going guy into someone completely different who's only thought is getting another drink.
    When he's not on the drink you couldn't meet a nicer guy and he does a lot in the community around here for charity.
    Sad to think the op finds it funny to joke at a mans alchoholism.


  • #41
    ft9
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    NukaCola wrote: »
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    Why were you on Google Osterreich?


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  • #42
    stovelid
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    Haven't read the whole thread but it wasn't Sky Sports (which didn't exist at the time). It was an interview on some other programme.


  • #43
    jordainius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭jordainius


    nullzero wrote: »
    Bloody hell, I'm sure the OP was just wondering if somebody in the soccer forum might know where to find the video.

    I'm going out on a limb here but I'm pretty sure that he's not planning on pulling his mickey out and **** himself silly over the soul destroying addiction of a much cherished national icon.
    In fact it was probably just idle curiosity as oppossed to a sinister attempt to mock an unfortunate person.

    The original post;
    shadowcomplex wrote: »
    Years ago Paul Mcgrath and Norman Whiteside appeared on skysports as guests for a premierleague game,The thing is they went for a few pints before had and were pissed drunk, I saw clips of it before and whilst enbarressing for them it was quite funny, does anyone know if this is online somewhere?

    The intent here wasn't to satisfy idle curiosity, it was to have a laugh at McGrath's expense. Nothing funny about alcoholism.


  • #44
    parker kent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    Funny how many people call what was the Football League the Premier League. Sky's marketing men did an excellent job.


  • #45
    noodler
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    flahavaj wrote: »
    Lets not amuse ourselves at the expense of a national hero who has has his life (and that of everyone close to him) destroyed by drink eh?

    Did you not make a joke about Carragher being concussed in the Arsenal-Liverpool match thread?

    Will be interesting to see how long you stay on your high Horse..


  • #46
    stovelid
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    I've a lot of compassion for Big Paul and alcoholics in general (being extremely close to two of them) but people are being sanctimonious here. Possibly far more offended than Paul himself would probably be about people laughing at the incident which was pretty funny.


  • #47
    jordainius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭jordainius


    stovelid wrote: »
    I've a lot of compassion for Big Paul and alcoholics in general (being extremely close to two of them) but people are being sanctimonious here. Possibly far more offended than Paul himself would probably be about people laughing at the incident which was pretty funny.


    Yeah it was hilarious alright :rolleyes:


  • #48
    stovelid
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    jordainius wrote: »
    Yeah it was hilarious alright :rolleyes:

    By that token, any amusing drunken escapade from 21-22 years ago is tasteless if you end up as an alcoholic in later life.

    I've loads of time for Paul who is an absolute gent and his book was heartbreaking but this is all ridiculous sanctimonious shite.

    It wouldn't even be an issue if Paul was English.


  • #49
    jordainius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭jordainius


    stovelid wrote: »
    By that token, any amusing drunken escapade from 21-22 years ago is tasteless if you end up as an alcoholic in later life.

    I've loads of time for Paul who is an absolute gent and his book was heartbreaking but this is all ridiculous sanctimonious shite.

    It wouldn't even be an issue if Paul was English.

    Yeah, people who want to justify wrong on their own part usually go down the road of tarring those who oppose them with the whole "sanctimony" thing. I ain't buying it.

    It wasn't funny then, it isn't funny now.

    Also- I'm guessing you think it would be okay to laugh at Paul McGrath's alcoholism if he was English based on your last comment? Your opinion. Don't judge everyone by your standards. (Also, you might want to look up where he was born...)


  • #50
    flahavaj
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    noodler wrote: »
    Did you not make a joke about Carragher being concussed in the Arsenal-Liverpool match thread?

    Will be interesting to see how long you stay on your high Horse..

    I did indeed. Feel free to slate my blatant hypocrisy all you like, I couldn't give a sh*t tbh.


  • #51
    stovelid
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    jordainius wrote: »
    I ain't buying it.

    It wasn't funny then, it isn't funny now.

    I'm very proud of you.


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  • #52
    jordainius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭jordainius


    stovelid wrote: »
    I'm very proud of you.

    I couldn't care less.


  • #53
    Jazzy
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    noodler wrote: »
    Did you not make a joke about Carragher being concussed in the Arsenal-Liverpool match thread?

    Will be interesting to see how long you stay on your high Horse..

    i can inform you that teh flahs horse is indeed very tall


  • #54
    Leiva
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    OK admit it ...How many of yous Googled to find the vid in question ?:D


  • #55
    stovelid
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    mixednuts wrote: »
    OK admit it ...How many of yous Googled to find the vid in question ?:D

    I think Ferguson said at the time that they looked like they were on "Planet Zig Zag" doing the interview. The innocence of the era of pre-Mutu footballer wage packets. :)


  • #56
    nullzero
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    NukaCola wrote: »
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    You're a funny guy, or perhaps not.

    Glazers Out!



  • #57
    parker kent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    Jazzy wrote: »
    i can inform you that teh flahs horse is indeed very tall

    Nah he has a donkey.


  • #58
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    parker kent wrote: »
    Nah he has a donkey.

    F*ck your Mitsubishi, I've a horse outsiiiiide.


  • #59
    parker kent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    flahavaj wrote: »
    F*ck your Mitsubishi, I've a horse outsiiiiide.

    It's a donkey, don't lie. You are from Waterford.


  • #60
    noodler
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    flahavaj wrote: »
    I did indeed. Feel free to slate my blatant hypocrisy all you like, I couldn't give a sh*t tbh.

    Straightforward about your c***ery.

    I like that, I like that alot.


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  • #61
    Aidric
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    stovelid wrote: »
    I've a lot of compassion for Big Paul and alcoholics in general (being extremely close to two of them) but people are being sanctimonious here. Possibly far more offended than Paul himself would probably be about people laughing at the incident which was pretty funny.
    Indeed. I doubt very much the OP's intention was to ridicule McGrath or alcoholism. He was merely looking for a funny video.

    The amount of Mother Theresa posts in this thread is off the scale.


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