"WE should be prepared to bring this Republic to a complete standstill"

WantFreedom · 17-04-2011 11:27PM #1

I am like many other reaching breaking point with the oppressive and unwanted state and public sector and the oligarchy that preserves them so they may extract wealth from the people.

Ireland has become an extraordinarily petty and oppressive nation on everything to driving. to smoking, cannabis, tax and of course paperwork.

I think in a climate of national strikes by the oppressing that violence will return to Irish politics in a major way.

The sooner that civil 'servants' realise that those who pay for them view comissions, regulators and those who send them post with threats about fines and jail sentences for not filling in forms, that rob from the mouths of the Irish peoples children for their pensions - that they are viewed as no better than the old occupants of dublin castle.

I don;t write this with any pleasure. It is not an opinion you will see in the oppressors propaganda channels of RTE or the suburban rags of the times or the independent - but is is out their in reality and I don;t see it being expressed. I hear this form farmers, tradesmen, technical staff, taximen etc etc it is comming.

You had no time to listen to us. YOU were to concerns for your privilages. Soon you will be afraid to walk the streets.

Never threaten the people. We want our freedom. We don;t want your departments or regulators. It is our land not yours, our bodies not yours and if you keep insisting in stealing from the Irish people to line your pockets then you will ultimately have to leave Ireland or die, just like the oppressors before you, who also lived in Dublin and cared little for those outside their club.

I am not advocating this. It is just a fact. It is as certain to happen as rain.

Ireland will be a better place when it is over. Their will be a brief respite from small groups of idiots telling others how to live.

You can bring this republic to a standstill for a while. Then you must leave it with your friends in the political parties and banks. You are unwanted and hated and so is the oppressive and petty laws and paperwork and taxes that pay for you. You cannot control the countryside or the streets at night and you will not be safe in your homes.

History repeats itself. You don;t have to be a genius to see what is coming.

RichardAnd · 17-04-2011 11:31PM

Who exactly are you aiming this at?

alchemist33 · 17-04-2011 11:36PM

WantFreedom wrote: »

Never threaten the people.

you will ultimately have to leave Ireland or die,

Oh dear.

hatz7 · 17-04-2011 11:41PM

now that's what I'm talkin about

Balmed Out · 17-04-2011 11:49PM

WantFreedom wrote: »

It is just a fact. It is as certain to happen as rain.

Really, no more rain???

jimmycrackcorm · 18-04-2011 12:34AM

Another thread complaining but without any plan.

WantFreedom · 18-04-2011 12:43AM

alchemist33 wrote: »

Oh dear.

What's wrong is your daddy a Union rep or a deputy com or a bank manager?

I'm not threatening. It will happen. Just because your father took a lot of money from other peoples children for his pension does not make him bullet proof.

If you had a little more insight into Ireland outside of the surreal bubble that exists in Dublin RTE/Public Sector/Civil service/Banks you might have more of an insight into the fact that the vast majority of Irish families have never bought into this wonderful place called Eire and don't trust anyone who takes their money and tells them what to do via the likes of Joe Duffy and SIPU.

The people are the overwhealming majority - who are not union members, who are not civil servants and who actually pay for the whole joke to operate.

Ireland has never, ever faced a major recession or depression without an outbreak of low key violence.

If you don't know this then all I can say is 'O dear'.

May I also recommend JC Davies, "The J-Curve of Rising and Declining Satisfactions as a Cause of Revolution and Rebellion" to you.

Tell your father to quit his job and get a real one.

WantFreedom · 18-04-2011 12:51AM

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Another thread complaining but without any plan.

Tell you what. Why don't you schedule a 'meeting' and then we can make a 'plan' and then you can write to the department of finance who will interpret a law to impose a tax on a dog ****ting to fund your 'plan' but then you will go overbudget and you can write to the EU for a loan backed by the belongings of people who did not agree to your plan and think meeting and plans are for idiots because history and world economics move like the seasons and can no more be controlled by a 'plan' then the seasons.

You don't need a plan. You need an ability to read and some good books.

What exactly do you think Irelands nominally RC rural and non state urban populations political culture is when presented with poverty and a bunch of idiots that right down to titles like commisioner are apeing that which which was set up to extract and export wealth from India?

There does not have to be a plan. It will be a murder here, a thing burnt out there, a beating hear and a maiming there. No plan just small random outbursts of anger against what have become the enemy to the vast majority of Irish people hand have been for a long long time even before the current crash.

18-04-2011 12:56AM

WantFreedom wrote: »

I don;t write this with any pleasure.

Evidently not. Not much linearity or coherence, either.

:cool:

WantFreedom · 18-04-2011 12:57AM

Balmed Out wrote: »

Really, no more rain???

JC Davies, "The J-Curve of Rising and Declining Satisfactions as a Cause of Revolution and Rebellion,"

Precipitation: advances in measurement, estimation, and prediction
By Silas Michaelides

I'm telling you what will happen, your telling me nothing.

Let it rain. It get's to a point that people would rather risk than put up.

A household tax to fund RTE and a water meter is damn hard to collect in the back end of Cavan when your legs are broken.

It could have been avoided, it was not.

gigino · 18-04-2011 01:00AM

ah, ah dats awful dalk, i never herd de like of it since long before de boom got boomier. People who talk down de economy like dat should go off and ....well, I dunno, ever since I doubled de public expenditure dis country has gone to de dogs.

WantFreedom · 18-04-2011 01:01AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Evidently not. Not much linearity or coherence, either.

:cool:

Another failed stand up comic who has crawled out of his ET school to look down on the impoverished catholic mob who pay for his whims?

gigino · 18-04-2011 01:04AM

WantFreedom wrote: »

A household tax to fund RTE and a water meter is damn hard to collect in the back end of Cavan when your legs are broken.

Not too many people would be brave enough to check up on BBC tv licences in Cullyhana or Crossmaglen, and when the economy gets worse not too many revenue people on 50 and 60 grand a year will be brave enough to try to collect more private sector taxes either.

WantFreedom · 18-04-2011 01:18AM

gigino wrote: »

Not too many people would be brave enough to check up on BBC tv licences in Cullyhana or Crossmaglen, and when the economy gets worse not too many revenue people on 50 and 60 grand a year will be brave enough to try to collect more private sector taxes either.

There is nothing new under the sun. The fact is that RTE can whinge all it wants but no one gives a **** about the civil service or semi states anyway and they long stopped being anything other than a pain in the arse and an expensive one. They and the bank staff can send forms and little bills for made up charges and taxes while joe duffy tries to convince the world that the earth will stop turning if some idiot from the department fo agriculture ends up in a ditch somewhere.....it won't....

'In jacquerism they always found a more satisfying form of violoence for their needs, since it offered immediate redress rather than a prospective one. In a country that had a long familiarity streteching back into the eightyeeth-century with agrarian unrest and secret societies, jacquerism could mean an organised system of violence against landlordism and circumstances of the moment or spontaneous aggression'
Rural Violence 1850-1914 Padraig G Lane

Uuuh Patsy · 18-04-2011 10:21AM

This course of action is exactly the type of reaction that the private central bankers need. The oldest trick in the book. Divide and conquer. The OP is too blind to see who the true enemy is. Its not the public or private worker... Its those people who print money to create debt in order to control your life... Its a simple as that. All of the events of the last few years means that they now own your ass.. So open your eyes. Follow the money trail and figure out who truely gains from all of this... Guess who will be there to sell you guns and bullets, the exact same debt printers

AhSureTisGrand · 18-04-2011 10:27AM

Down with taxes! Down with gubbernment!

DrumSteve · 18-04-2011 10:32AM

He knows an awful lot about that dude's father...

http://files.myopera.com/Muttsfan/blog/CH-Hobbo.JPG

StupidLikeAFox · 18-04-2011 10:36AM

WantFreedom wrote: »

You don't need a plan. You need an ability to read and some good books.

What do you recommend, Dickens?

Rodin · 18-04-2011 10:38AM

WantFreedom wrote: »

What's wrong is your daddy a Union rep or a deputy com or a bank manager?

I'm not threatening. It will happen. Just because your father took a lot of money from other peoples children for his pension does not make him bullet proof.

If you had a little more insight into Ireland outside of the surreal bubble that exists in Dublin RTE/Public Sector/Civil service/Banks you might have more of an insight into the fact that the vast majority of Irish families have never bought into this wonderful place called Eire and don't trust anyone who takes their money and tells them what to do via the likes of Joe Duffy and SIPU.

The people are the overwhealming majority - who are not union members, who are not civil servants and who actually pay for the whole joke to operate.

Ireland has never, ever faced a major recession or depression without an outbreak of low key violence.

If you don't know this then all I can say is 'O dear'.

May I also recommend JC Davies, "The J-Curve of Rising and Declining Satisfactions as a Cause of Revolution and Rebellion" to you.

Tell your father to quit his job and get a real one.

What do YOU do?

Orando Broom · 18-04-2011 10:43AM

WantFreedom wrote: »

Another failed stand up comic who has crawled out of his ET school to look down on the impoverished catholic mob who pay for his whims?

FAILED COMICS JOIN THE CIVIL SERVICE!!!!!!!

Biggins · 18-04-2011 10:45AM

WantFreedom wrote: »

I am like many other reaching breaking point with the oppressive and unwanted state and public sector and the oligarchy that preserves them so they may extract wealth from the people...

So when does your organisation start making itself known?
I mean if your that incensed about something, surely you've taken a more practical pro-active approach?
When is the first protest march?

littlejp · 18-04-2011 10:52AM

WantFreedom wrote: »

I am like many other reaching breaking point with the oppressive and unwanted state and public sector and the oligarchy that preserves them so they may extract wealth from the people.

Ireland has become an extraordinarily petty and oppressive nation on everything to driving. to smoking, cannabis, tax and of course paperwork.

I think in a climate of national strikes by the oppressing that violence will return to Irish politics in a major way.

The sooner that civil 'servants' realise that those who pay for them view comissions, regulators and those who send them post with threats about fines and jail sentences for not filling in forms, that rob from the mouths of the Irish peoples children for their pensions - that they are viewed as no better than the old occupants of dublin castle.

I don;t write this with any pleasure. It is not an opinion you will see in the oppressors propaganda channels of RTE or the suburban rags of the times or the independent - but is is out their in reality and I don;t see it being expressed. I hear this form farmers, tradesmen, technical staff, taximen etc etc it is comming.

You had no time to listen to us. YOU were to concerns for your privilages. Soon you will be afraid to walk the streets.

Never threaten the people. We want our freedom. We don;t want your departments or regulators. It is our land not yours, our bodies not yours and if you keep insisting in stealing from the Irish people to line your pockets then you will ultimately have to leave Ireland or die, just like the oppressors before you, who also lived in Dublin and cared little for those outside their club.

I am not advocating this. It is just a fact. It is as certain to happen as rain.

Ireland will be a better place when it is over. Their will be a brief respite from small groups of idiots telling others how to live.

You can bring this republic to a standstill for a while. Then you must leave it with your friends in the political parties and banks. You are unwanted and hated and so is the oppressive and petty laws and paperwork and taxes that pay for you. You cannot control the countryside or the streets at night and you will not be safe in your homes.

History repeats itself. You don;t have to be a genius to see what is coming.

I like your manifesto, let's put it to the test-o.

DrumSteve · 18-04-2011 10:53AM

Biggins wrote: »

So when does your organisation start making itself known?
I mean if your that incensed about something, surely you've taken a more practical pro-active approach?
When is the first protest march?

I think it was the other day.

http://anacarlo.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/father-ted-careful-now.jpg

Penn · 18-04-2011 10:55AM

Can't we all just get along?

Pauleta · 18-04-2011 10:56AM

Where are all these left wing loons coming from? We seem to have a new one everyday :mad:

NTMK · 18-04-2011 10:59AM

Biggins wrote: »

So when does your organisation start making itself known?
I mean if your that incensed about something, surely you've taken a more practical pro-active approach?
When is the first protest march?

they dont know because according to the op you dont need a plan:rolleyes:

We got ourselves into this mess we continually voting in a goverment that didnt regulate the banking industry and the economy. your bank manager had nothing to do with it
People deciided to get themselves heavily into debt by buying **** they didnt need like second houses and a new car every year
these farmers and tradesman that are bitching about the problems were normally the ones ripping everyone off during the boom. i know plenty of builders that have loads of work because the charged fair prices when things were good

We got ourselves to blame we voted in the "oppressors" we got ourselves into massive debt. riots and protesting will do SFA because at the end of the day we owe the money and without it we cant run hospitals, schools and without a plan we will just put another shower of incompetent muppets in power

Biggins · 18-04-2011 11:01AM

Barrington wrote: »

Can't we all just get along?

No.
I'm irate 'cos there is not enough Jelly Babies in the world!
I protest!!! :mad:

sensibleken · 18-04-2011 11:01AM

Pauleta wrote: »

Where are all these left wing loons coming from? We seem to have a new one everyday :mad:

He's not left wing!

Ste.phen · 18-04-2011 11:02AM

DEY TUK ER JERBS!

JBnaglfar · 18-04-2011 11:04AM

Pauleta wrote: »

Where are all these left wing loons coming from? We seem to have a new one everyday :mad:

Surely he's a right wing loon. Down with government, less regulation etc. (not that all right wingers are loons)

sensibleken · 18-04-2011 11:06AM

WantFreedom wrote: »

You had no time to listen to us. YOU were to concerns for your privilages. Soon you will be afraid to walk the streets.

I were to concerns for my privilages??

How dore you! I concerns wear more important that you're's

"WE should be prepared to bring this Republic to a complete standstill"

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