Amir Khan v Paul McCloskey - Manchester, April 16

celtictiger32 · 17-04-2011 05:50PM

walshb wrote: »

Once the early barrage had failed to break the defence and spirit of the challenger, Khan seemed short of ideas with McCloskey also showing he possessed an iron chin.

Anyone who didn't see the fight would think that Khan was hopping off
Paul with heavy shots. So inaccurate. Khan himself best described it, peppering him he said.

how did he pepper him most of his shots were missing mc closkey anyway. and if it had of gone the distance well that would have been that i would of had no problem at all but the fact is mc closkey was employing tactics that required the fight to go the distance. you cant account for something like this happening.

c1979 · 17-04-2011 06:56PM

Here is a link to a youtube channel that has the full fight
http://www.youtube.com/user/superboxmma3

Paul may have got him in the later rounds. I actually think Khan is getting worse. he also didnt look as strong as he has been his last couple of fights

Rob113 · 17-04-2011 07:16PM

King of Kings wrote: »

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**** it. I deserved more for my €100 ticket -

Just on your last point. Eddie Hearn on twitter said he is giving any Irish fans who travelled to the fight a complimentary ticket to the next Prizefighter. Great gesture from him in fairness -

Link - http://www.twitlonger.com/show/9tcrjj

Edit- link doesn't seem to work. Working off phone so can't copy and paste. Anyone else follow him on twitter that can put up a better link?
@eire_boxing @djmartymac @Paul_Mccloskey @CelticBoxing RT I have had so many messages from Irish fans that came to the fight last night..I feel gutted for you that you came all that way for such a poor decision. I was delighted to hear that Paddy Power are offering refunds on bets which is a bold statement indeed. You provided one of the greatest atmospheres I have seen in this Country for and like Paul you should all be very proud of yourselves. I would like to offer anyone that made the trip a complimentary ticket to our International Prizefighter event at Alexandra Palace on May 7th at Alexandra Palace.Please contact frank.smith@matchroom.com. Thanks for all your support

colly10 · 17-04-2011 07:26PM

celtictiger32 wrote: »

i cant believe how many on here are still saying khan can unify the titles etc. khan won every round last night theres no denying that but he never hurt mc closkey

Mcloskey is difficult to look good against due to his style, it's also difficult enough to catch him clean enough to hurt him

celtictiger32 wrote: »

and i do think the longer the fight was going on the more flustered khan was getting and the more into it mc closkey was i reckon mc closkey could of knocked him out in the latter rounds as he was the one looking for the big bang.

I think delusional is the only way I can describe that opinion. Khan looked relaxed and his timing improved as the fight went on. He was getting more success close to the stoppage than he was in the early rounds. The fight was heading for a 120-108 and thats if Khan didn't manage to continue to improve his succeess.
Before this fight you said Khan isn't a top 5 LW (despite not saying who the top 5 is). That says it all for me really

Boooourns · 17-04-2011 08:05PM

celtictiger32 wrote: »

how did he pepper him most of his shots were missing mc closkey anyway. and if it had of gone the distance well that would have been that i would of had no problem at all but the fact is mc closkey was employing tactics that required the fight to go the distance. you cant account for something like this happening.

Or he just couldn't land on Khan as he couldn't live with his speed. There's no shame on McCloskeys performance last night, Khan is just ridiculousy quick even though he had an off night. McCloskeys style is really odd that he'll be really good at Euro level but when it comes to World level he has to find a way to box more, i really think that.

12gauge dave · 17-04-2011 08:14PM

just watched fight and it was a funny old fight cant make sense of it

i thought mcloskey was poor offensively but very good at defending khans barrages to be fair i thought khan would have him stopped in 2 rounds but he didnt

the cut was not that bad and referee could of let them finish the round and see from there

khan was just throwing combinations in an unplanned flurry not picking shots at all!

disapointed at the stoppage for the cut mcloskey looked solid enough but was gonna lose on points!

my summary is that khan is the better boxer but khans nowhere near the level he thinks hes capable of and last nights performance cements that he is young can improve and maybe he had an offnight but ill stand true to my word he would not last with GREAT fighters he will shine against good boxers as that is all h'ell ever face as he wont fight pacquiao and mayweather will be retired before khan is ever worthy of a fight with him!

khan should be put in with mosley as a test for him on the ultimate stage but its too early too say hes great

section4 · 17-04-2011 10:18PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

just watched fight and it was a funny old fight cant make sense of it

i thought mcloskey was poor offensively but very good at defending khans barrages to be fair i thought khan would have him stopped in 2 rounds but he didnt

the cut was not that bad and referee could of let them finish the round and see from there

khan was just throwing combinations in an unplanned flurry not picking shots at all!

disapointed at the stoppage for the cut mcloskey looked solid enough but was gonna lose on points!

my summary is that khan is the better boxer but khans nowhere near the level he thinks hes capable of and last nights performance cements that he is young can improve and maybe he had an offnight but ill stand true to my word he would not last with GREAT fighters he will shine against good boxers as that is all h'ell ever face as he wont fight pacquiao and mayweather will be retired before khan is ever worthy of a fight with him!

khan should be put in with mosley as a test for him on the ultimate stage but its too early too say hes great

Khan is not great and never will be, he is completely overhyped, its a typical english media\sky sports thing to make people watch him thinking they are seeing sometihng special, they get a british fighter a handy world title and then try and make out he is special, reminds me the llloyd hoineyghan time, he winds a world title and then defends against light welters and bums and is talked about as an all time great, while all the time avoiding the best welterwegiht Marlon Starling, a good world champ who beat Honeryghan easy.
Just watched the fight and the first thing that is obvious is that khan has no power, he never once hurt Mcloskey who kept moving forward all the time, and when the heads clashed McCloskey's body language was much more aggresive than khan who turned away slighly, it was clear than altho khan landed a lot he has no power, so much for khan,s power

he is ot that fast if he was he would not have had all the problems he had with mcloskey

he is not a naturtal fighter, he fights in flurries like a scared rabbit, he will not engage in prolonged punch exchanges because he can be hurt easliye and reactes v ery badly when hit clean and hurt, he is not a smooth boxer is is a;ways moving in case he gets hit.

he was fighting a guy who while not a bad european cehampion is completely untried at world level and khan was hesitant and fought very safety firsy, remember mcloskey was picked because he is not a hrad hitter yet khan still coiuld not relax.

he is not a very corect puncher and cant seem to relax properly to throw proper smooth combiinations all just quick unplanned flurriies and then out as quick as possible/

he will not beat bradley, who is fitter stronger both in body and mind, his only chance is to jump in and run all night, i know bradley does not hit that hard but you dont have to to hurt khan, just hit him consistently and he will get flustered and bradley has the fitness to finish him in the later rounds

colly10 · 17-04-2011 11:01PM

section4 wrote: »

he is completely overhyped, its a typical english media\sky sports thing to make people watch him thinking they are seeing sometihng special

Well Sky didn't consider the fight to be PPV material, they planned on showing him on SS3, hardly blowing him out of proportion. Any of the sky commentators I have heard have said he has quite a way to go to be as good as Ricky Hatton.

section4 wrote: »

they get a british fighter a handy world title and then try and make out he is special, reminds me the llloyd hoineyghan time, he winds a world title and then defends against light welters and bums and is talked about as an all time great, while all the time avoiding the best welterwegiht Marlon Starling, a good world champ who beat Honeryghan easy.

He beat Kotelnik (comfortably) for the title, Kotelnik has beaten Maidana and in the mind of most has beaten Alexander, thats not an easy opponent but he is an opponent you'll get little credit for.
Since then he has fought Maidana (who everyone said he would avoid). He plans to fight Bradley next.
What more do you want, in my mind the only 2 fighters left for him to fight at this weight are Bradley and Judah and he's fighting one of them next.

section4 wrote: »

Just watched the fight and the first thing that is obvious is that khan has no power, he never once hurt Mcloskey who kept moving forward all the time, and when the heads clashed McCloskey's body language was much more aggresive than khan who turned away slighly, it was clear than altho khan landed a lot he has no power, so much for khan,s power

Based on 1 fight he has no power? McCloskey moves with the shots so he's not going to be getting the full impact and if your fighting a guy with alot of movement you avoid loading up and just go for the quick combinations.

section4 wrote: »

he is not that fast if he was he would not have had all the problems he had with mcloskey

Not fast? Your just showing your bias there

section4 wrote: »

he is not a smooth boxer is is a;ways moving in case he gets hit.

Hit and don't get hit, thats the science of boxing. You can stand there like Mayorga but that just makes you stupid, not a great fighter. McCloskey was the fighter that wasn't taking risks in that fight, how many punches was he throwing a round, very little, he wasn't opening up because he didn't want to take the risk

section4 wrote: »

he will not beat bradley, who is fitter stronger both in body and mind, his only chance is to jump in and run all night, i know bradley does not hit that hard but you dont have to to hurt khan, just hit him consistently and he will get flustered and bradley has the fitness to finish him in the later rounds

We will see, it's far from a cert for Khan but if you remove the headbuts and leaning from Bradley he's tailor made.

For all this overhype and easy route to a title talk could anyone who believes this post their top 5 light welterweights, it will be interesting to see how that's made up without Khan. I'm not saying he's the finished article by any means, he wouldn't be near my top 5 current favourite fighters but I just find it hard to listen to the hate

celtictiger32 · 17-04-2011 11:04PM

colly10 wrote: »

Mcloskey is difficult to look good against due to his style, it's also difficult enough to catch him clean enough to hurt him

I think delusional is the only way I can describe that opinion. Khan looked relaxed and his timing improved as the fight went on. He was getting more success close to the stoppage than he was in the early rounds. The fight was heading for a 120-108 and thats if Khan didn't manage to continue to improve his succeess.
Before this fight you said Khan isn't a top 5 LW (despite not saying who the top 5 is). That says it all for me really

'due to his style its hard to catch him clean enough'??? you make it sound like thats a bad thing. when mayweather was hard to catch clean it was a masterclass when mc closkey is hard to catch its a weird style??. anyeway i doubt khan would of hurt him too much either way hes not the heaviest of punchers.

colly10 · 17-04-2011 11:13PM

celtictiger32 wrote: »

'due to his style its hard to catch him clean enough'??? you make it sound like thats a bad thing. when mayweather was hard to catch clean it was a masterclass when mc closkey is hard to catch its a weird style??. anyeway i doubt khan would of hurt him too much either way hes not the heaviest of punchers.

No I never said that it's a bad thing (although I don't find it good to watch), it's a credit to McCloskey that he's tough to catch. It's hard to look impressive against a fighter with that style though

Snappy the Moose · 17-04-2011 11:21PM

celtictiger32 wrote: »

'due to his style its hard to catch him clean enough'??? you make it sound like thats a bad thing. when mayweather was hard to catch clean it was a masterclass when mc closkey is hard to catch its a weird style??.

But Mayweather has an effective counter-punching style.

Paul is a slippery customer but has nothing of note offensively, the minimal punches he threw didn't seem to have much snap imo. He is a poor man's Pauli Malignaggi and that isn't saying much.

I'm not trying to put Paul down because he did well to an extent, but the only thing the stoppage did last night was give him a tool to get another big name fight, and I hope he does.

section4 · 17-04-2011 11:38PM

colly10 wrote: »

Well Sky didn't consider the fight to be PPV material, they planned on showing him on SS3, hardly blowing him out of proportion. Any of the sky commentators I have heard have said he has quite a way to go to be as good as Ricky Hatton.

has he been on sky before, was he on sky after getting knocked clean out by the first even money match he had. was he not on sky fighting barreara a ridiculous march made to try to save the golden cow.

He beat Kotelnik (comfortably) for the title, Kotelnik has beaten Maidana and in the mind of most has beaten Alexander, thats not an easy opponent but he is an opponent you'll get little credit for.
Since then he has fought Maidana (who everyone said he would avoid). He plans to fight Bradley next.
What more do you want, in my mind the only 2 fighters left for him to fight at this weight are Bradley and Judah and he's fighting one of them next.

my point is that khan is not great and thats the context i gave my answer in but anyway, khan matches have all been carefully selected, kotelinick was picked because he had no power. maidana a very limited puncher who should have stopped khan in the 10th. HE HAS BEEN KNOCKED STUPID BY PRESCOTT REMEMBER. he will not beat bradley, because in my opinion he is not good enough. he has been rocked by fighters who are hardly even british level, have you forgotten that. and i think there are a lot of fighter at lw who would beat him, in fact any top ten fighter who can move and box with average power will give him big problems

Based on 1 fight he has no power? McCloskey moves with the shots so he's not going to be getting the full impact and if your fighting a guy with alot of movement you avoid loading up and just go for the quick combinations.

Not based on one fight based on his whole career, when has he knnocked out a ranked fighter

Not fast? Your just showing your bias there

well why could he not catch mc loskey who is only a european level fighter

Hit and don't get hit, thats the science of boxing. You can stand there like Mayorga but that just makes you stupid, not a great fighter. McCloskey was the fighter that wasn't taking risks in that fight, how many punches was he throwing a round, very little, he wasn't opening up because he didn't want to take the risk

he was not opening up because he had a plan to take khan into the later rounds, it a common strategy in boxing. He may not have won later on but he certainly had no problem with khan in terms of power while the fight lasted, every time khan caught him he wa straight back in, when a fighter has genuine power and the opponent tastes that power, i can assure you they would not keep doing what mcloskey did

We will see, it's far from a cert for Khan but if you remove the headbuts and leaning from Bradley he's tailor made.

how is he tailor made, he is fit, smart, game, young, and fresh unlike the majority of khans opponents, and he is much more controlled than khan.

For all this overhype and easy route to a title talk could anyone who believes this post their top 5 light welterweights, it will be interesting to see how that's made up without Khan. I'm not saying he's the finished article by any means, he wouldn't be near my top 5 current favourite fighters but I just find it hard to listen to the hate

hate, what an odd thing to say, bias, i thik you have some issues my friend

i said khan was not great and never will be and that is correct. he has not got it and thats it, and that is simply my opinion based on my knowledge of the fighters and their records. purely objective

iluvcheese92 · 18-04-2011 12:59AM

Cut or no cut mccloskey was well on his way to a lob sided UD defeat. Not to worry though, Mr. Hearn will have McCloskey back on his regular healthy diet of bums in no time. :rolleyes:

joepenguin · 18-04-2011 01:15AM

iluvcheese92 wrote: »

Cut or no cut mccloskey was well on his way to a lob sided UD defeat. Not to worry though, Mr. Hearn will have McCloskey back on his regular healthy diet of bums in no time. :rolleyes:

Either a ud loss or an upset stoppage for mcloskey. The man at least deserved to see out his game plan since he was in good condition.

rocco. · 18-04-2011 01:19AM

iluvcheese92 wrote: »

Cut or no cut mccloskey was well on his way to a lob sided UD defeat. Not to worry though, Mr. Hearn will have McCloskey back on his regular healthy diet of bums in no time. :rolleyes:

Dunne was behind on the scorecards against cordoba but eventuality knocked him out! Whats the point in having 12rounds with that atittude? Its a World Championship fight, a cut requiring two stitches should not stop it!
If Kahn had of been the one with the cut there is no way the fight would have stopped so pre maturely!

corny · 18-04-2011 04:39AM

section4 wrote: »

hate, what an odd thing to say, bias, i thik you have some issues my friend

i said khan was not great and never will be and that is correct. he has not got it and thats it, and that is simply my opinion based on my knowledge of the fighters and their records. purely objective

Thats it, is it? Theres nothing objective in saying 'Khan has no power' or 'saying he had a handy world title fight'. If you think thats objective you're a fool.

He outclassed Kotelnik (one judge had it 120-108 i think), beats Salita inside a minute (first time he'd been stopped), stopped the durable but featherfisted Malinaggi (only the second fighter to do so) and had that tough ****er Maidana gasping after a beautiful left to the body in the first. All this and he's still learning the game at 24. Open to improvement.

He can punch, he is quick, he's not hiding and he represents a clear threat to anyone that gets in the ring with him. If anyone disagrees with any of that you can just pass off their opinion as being influenced by something other than boxing. Not saying he's a complete fighter or hasn't a weakness (still think concerted pressure on his chin will yield results) but if you're gonna talk ****e about his 'many' flaws and just avoid his strengths then i'm afraid you're obviously biased.

walshb · 18-04-2011 09:26AM

Khan isn't Tommy Hearns; but saying he has no power is ridiculous.
He has good pop. His speed is so good that this is what delivers the power.
He is a good hitter. I would say 7/10 for power. Speed is 10/10

I agree that he is not all that smooth at times. He can be erratic and at times look off balance and awkward. BUT, he is still a very very difficult man to out box due to his speed and volume. And he has very good reactions. I noticed him countering the slick McClosley quite a bit.

When he wants, he can be quite intelligent in the ring. He is a very skilled boxer that still has things to learn and improve on.

The stoppage was a bummer. Ok, looking back, I do think the doc should have allowed the corner to treat the cut and allowed Paul a round or two.
Though, I think Paul was on for a pasting. He showed me nothing in 18 minutes. I can only go on this. And, is Paul a big hitter?
I think he is quite ordinary.

Lord Trollington · 18-04-2011 09:45AM

walshb wrote: »

Khan isn't Tommy Hearns; but saying he has no power is ridiculous.
He has good pop. His speed is so good that this is what delivers the power.
He is a good hitter. I would say 7/10 for power. Speed is 10/10

I agree that he is not all that smooth at times. He can be erratic and at times look off balance and awkward. BUT, he is still a very very difficult man to out box due to his speed and volume. And he has very good reactions. I noticed him countering the slick McClosley quite a bit.

When he wants, he can be quite intelligent in the ring. He is a very skilled boxer that still has things to learn and improve on.

The stoppage was a bummer. Ok, looking back, I do think the doc should have allowed the corner to treat the cut and allowed Paul a round or two.
Though, I think Paul was on for a pasting. He showed me nothing in 18 minutes. I can only go on this. And, is Paul a big hitter?
I think he is quite ordinary.

You say you think Paul is quite ordinary, I didnt see anyone building him up to be something he isn't. The same can't be said for Khan however.

I agree Paul offered very little in the first few rounds. But what did we see from Khan? Yes he had lightening quick speed but he was throwing combinations and landing very little. Paul's defense was excellent except for the clash of heads.

Pauls style is to keep it tight early on and then get more involved in later rounds. Now whilst he may not have went on to win the match as he would have had to knock out Khan I firmly believe he would have cause him problems.

Timothy Bradley is hardly shaking in his boots having looked at how a mucker from Dungiven made the next big franchise look an ordinary fighter.

Yourwellcum · 18-04-2011 09:55AM

The fight was scheduled for 12 rounds. Possibly only half the fight gone

Khan never once rocked McCloskey so how people reckon he was gonna knock him out I dont know.

Paul probably would of lost on points had the fight continued but to be denied the chance is what people are upset about. Also the arrogance of Khan to assume he would of won instead of showing a little humility in the face of a very controversial decision.

Cant understand all the love for Khan though. Nothing special. People here talk about a gulf in class between European and World level. Khan did nothing to prove that.

Hype is a great media tool

walshb · 18-04-2011 10:07AM

Yourwellcum wrote: »

Paul probably would of lost on points had the fight continued but to be denied the chance is what people are upset about. Also the arrogance of Khan to assume he would of won instead of showing a little humility in the face of a very controversial decision.

Arrogance of Khan? How about Paul? It was him who was making out he would have stopped Khan as Khan was gassing. Like I said earlier, there were TWO interviews after the fight.

walshb · 18-04-2011 10:10AM

whycliff wrote: »

Pauls style is to keep it tight early on and then get more involved in later rounds. Now whilst he may not have went on to win the match as he would have had to knock out Khan I firmly believe he would have cause him problems.

That is where I disagree. It didn't appear to me that Paul was causing any problems for 6 whole rds, so I think it's fair to assume that he wasn't going to change much. Ok, his style was awkward, but apart from that he was not at all bothering Khan in the offensive department. He wasn't hurting him, out boxing him, or even landing on him. He landed a handful of shots in 18 Mins.

Can anyone honestly see Paul landing the kinda' shots Maidana did from rds 10-12?
I can't see Paul unleashing that kind of two fisted assault. He just doesn't
have that kind of offense.

I just do not see HOW Paul was gonna' somehow turn this around and start
winning and bothering Khan. Just before the clash it was Khan who
was stepping it up and finding his range

Yourwellcum · 18-04-2011 10:41AM

walshb wrote: »

Arrogance of Khan? How about Paul? It was him who was making out he would have stopped Khan as Khan was gassing. Like I said earlier, there were TWO interviews after the fight.

Yes there was and Khan and his people were trying to make out at one point that McCloskey quit, now come on, how ridiculous is that??

walshb · 18-04-2011 11:03AM

Yourwellcum wrote: »

Yes there was and Khan and his people were trying to make out at one point that McCloskey quit, now come on, how ridiculous is that??

Like I said, there were two interviews.

Paul's camp were making out he was gassed and would have been Ko'd...

See, two sides here. Others did mention that they weren't sure if Paul wanted to continue. It looked like that to me when the doc and ref were consulting with him, AT THE TIME; but since, I will put it down to confusion.

Boooourns · 18-04-2011 11:24AM

section4 wrote: »

hate, what an odd thing to say, bias, i thik you have some issues my friend

i said khan was not great and never will be and that is correct. he has not got it and thats it, and that is simply my opinion based on my knowledge of the fighters and their records. purely objective

Yourwellcum wrote: »

The fight was scheduled for 12 rounds. Possibly only half the fight gone

Khan never once rocked McCloskey so how people reckon he was gonna knock him out I dont know.

Paul probably would of lost on points had the fight continued but to be denied the chance is what people are upset about. Also the arrogance of Khan to assume he would of won instead of showing a little humility in the face of a very controversial decision.

Cant understand all the love for Khan though. Nothing special. People here talk about a gulf in class between European and World level. Khan did nothing to prove that.

Hype is a great media tool

Just wondering have both of ye seen Khans fights against Kotelnik/Malginaggi/Maidana?

corny · 18-04-2011 11:24AM

Yourwellcum wrote: »

Yes there was and Khan and his people were trying to make out at one point that McCloskey quit, now come on, how ridiculous is that??

Not as ridiculous as you might think actually. It wasn't until he got back to his corner and they told him the cut wasn't that bad that McCloskey actually started to complain. Up until that point he'd accepted that stopping the fight was for the best, based on the doctors report apparently. Now obviously the doctor hadn't a clue and was a bit of an alarmist. Paul probably thought there was a six inch tear in his face:D but nonetheless, at the time, McCloskey accepted the decision.

celtictiger32 · 18-04-2011 12:18PM

walshb wrote: »

That is where I disagree. It didn't appear to me that Paul was causing any problems for 6 whole rds, so I think it's fair to assume that he wasn't going to change much. Ok, his style was awkward, but apart from that he was not at all bothering Khan in the offensive department. He wasn't hurting him, out boxing him, or even landing on him. He landed a handful of shots in 18 Mins.

Can anyone honestly see Paul landing the kinda' shots Maidana did from rds 10-12?
I can't see Paul unleashing that kind of two fisted assault. He just doesn't
have that kind of offense.

I just do not see HOW Paul was gonna' somehow turn this around and start
winning and bothering Khan. Just before the clash it was Khan who
was stepping it up and finding his range

wasnt that what the op said? he did say he keeps it tight early on and then .... so of course he wouldnt be bothering him too much if that were the gameplan

walshb · 18-04-2011 12:36PM

celtictiger32 wrote: »

wasnt that what the op said? he did say he keeps it tight early on and then .... so of course he wouldnt be bothering him too much if that were the gameplan

It seems that folks are thinking that Paul just had to hang in and WAIT for Amir to tire (and then launch his attack

). That is very presumptuous. If it was his gameplan then it was a stupid one.

CowboyTed · 18-04-2011 12:47PM

Khan was throwing the kitchen sink at him for the first 5 rounds. There is no question that he was expending the most effort and at times looked a bit novicey...

Do I think Khan would have won it yes but not at 7 to 1 which his starting odds were at. Khan had a lot more work to do.

The way some people are talking here you swear championship fights should be 6 rounds long and then we call a winner.

The thing is both Khan and Paul were not in trouble at that stage. Khan was ahead on the cards but he wasn't winning the round by much.

Saying all that I think Paul would have learnt more than Khan... If he works more on combinations he could have done Khan alot more damage.

One thing is Paul did make Khans defense look bad when he misses. If Paul capitalised more it could be very interesting...

One thing is it was a good fight and we deserve a rematch sometime towards the end of the year.

By the way, Roach and De la Hoya were disgraceful after the fight with some comments about it was for the good of Paul, he could got hurt... Paul showed nothing but pure class in his behavior up to the fight, he deserved more.

celtictiger32 · 18-04-2011 12:51PM

walshb wrote: »

It seems that folks are thinking that Paul just had to hang in and WAIT for Amir to tire (and then launch his attack). That is very presumptuous. If it was his gameplan then it was a stupid one.

it was also very presumptuous of khan and his supporters to think he had the fight won before it even took place. and why was it a stupid gameplan?

walshb · 18-04-2011 12:57PM

celtictiger32 wrote: »

it was also very presumptuous of khan and his supporters to think he had the fight won before it even took place. and why was it a stupid gameplan?

Because if they did their homework they would realise that Khan is a tremendously fit and conditioned fighter. He has shown this in several fights.

Paul needed to get in and work Khan from rd 1, not from rd 7 onwards.
He couldn't get in, couldn't get his shots off and time was running out.

And, who is to say that Paul would not have gassed come rds 9, 10, 11 ,12?

Khan's fitness has been proved. You don't sit around waiting for the likes of Khan to slow down, especially when you are doing very little to aid that slow down. This is schoolby stuff that any decent trainer or camp should know.

What damage if any did Paul do to Khan in 6 rds? Nothing. Now, Khan may
not have done much either, but that is irrelevant, as Khan was winning and
there was no way Paul was going to take it on points. He needed the KO.

Amir Khan v Paul McCloskey - Manchester, April 16

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