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Abolish democracy in Ireland

  • 16-04-2011 11:30AM
    #1
    whiteonion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭


    A democracy can only work if you have a well informed populace who votes in the best interest of the country.

    We have seen what democracy in Ireland has led to, the total collapse of the entire economy. It's obvious to me that Irish people in general are unfit to govern themselves.

    A democratically elected government will not be able to do what is necessary to get this country back on it's feet.

    We should abolish democracy in Ireland all together. Throw out all the politicians and install leadership from Germany.


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  • #2
    Bucklesman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 635 ✭✭✭Bucklesman


    Screw that, just inform people better.


  • #3
    ei.sdraob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,364 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    whiteonion wrote: »
    Throw out all the politicians and install leadership from Germany.

    too late...


  • #4
    whiteonion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭whiteonion


    Ireland is still formally ruled by elected officials. This will have to change.


  • #5
    new here
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭new here


    If a democracy as "lead to" the collapse of the economy... I don't want to imagine what will happen if a bunch of people that none of the public don't want (and don't have to follow any of the wants/needs of the public) are put into power.


  • #6
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Install a green party dictatorship and let the fun begin


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  • #7
    ei.sdraob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,364 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    Winston Churchill wrote:
    Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried

    We need democracy.

    What we dont need is the collective punishment being netted by EU,
    Yes it is partly deserved when it comes to out of control expenditure,
    but No it is not deserved when it comes to the banking mess in which the electorare had no part.

    Yes democracy produces bad results at times, such as Nazi Germany, but instead of punishing the Germans the US procedeed to give them aid which resulted in the country rebuilding and avoiding yet another european war, I sure hope the Germans remember the lessons of own history before being to rush to judge Ireland, our crime was not murdering millions but some of us taking on too much credit (happily supplied by same Germans) in order to have a better life.


  • #8
    whiteonion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭whiteonion


    The Irish populace voted for low taxes and high public sector spending in form of inflated salaries. Now they don't want any cuts. The Irish populace behave like children. There is a reason why even in democratic country we don't let children vote. Until people in Ireland start behaving like mature adults there should be no democracy in this country.


  • #9
    chalkitdown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭chalkitdown


    If everyone eligible actually voted then the system would probably be more representative.
    I would be in favour of compelling people to vote.


  • #10
    ei.sdraob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,364 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    whiteonion wrote: »
    The Irish populace voted for low taxes and high public sector spending in form of inflated salaries. Now they don't want any cuts. The Irish populace behave like children.

    Yes they have when it came to public over-spending

    but public debt is only half of the total debt clocked up

    The electorate had no say in the way private banks where run, neither where they consulted when it came to the whole sale socialisation of bank manure.


  • #11
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I'm tired of Whiteonions stupid threads!


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  • #12
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Damn fascists


  • #13
    admiralofthefleet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    whiteonion wrote: »
    The Irish populace voted for low taxes and high public sector spending in form of inflated salaries. Now they don't want any cuts. The Irish populace behave like children. There is a reason why even in democratic country we don't let children vote. Until people in Ireland start behaving like mature adults there should be no democracy in this country.

    get off your soapbox


  • #14
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    As long as we have a Referendum before hand to decide.


  • #15
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    chalkitdown wrote: »
    If everyone eligible actually voted then the system would probably be more representative..
    +1
    chalkitdown wrote: »
    I would be in favour of compelling people to vote.
    -1


  • #16
    Daegerty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Daegerty


    Install a Direct Democracy, abolish politicians they have proven to us time after time that they are completely incompetent


  • #17
    admiralofthefleet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    todays top tip:
    Anarchists, While Smashing Up The State, Be Careful Not To Destroy Your Dole Office


  • #18
    chalkitdown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭chalkitdown


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    +1


    -1

    Why not?


  • #19
    F1ngers
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,608 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    Thread needs a poll.


  • #20
    charlemont
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    todays top tip:
    Anarchists, While Smashing Up The State, Be Careful Not To Destroy Your Dole Office

    Dont worry the Dole office is sacred land.


  • #21
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    :rolleyes:

    I'd love to know where whiteonion is really from.


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  • #22
    Humans eh!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Humans eh!


    whiteonion wrote: »
    A democracy can only work if you have a well informed populace who votes in the best interest of the country.

    We have seen what democracy in Ireland has led to, the total collapse of the entire economy. It's obvious to me that Irish people in general are unfit to govern themselves.

    A democratically elected government will not be able to do what is necessary to get this country back on it's feet.

    We should abolish democracy in Ireland all together. Throw out all the politicians and install leadership from Germany.

    As I have said many times before the elected politicians we have are mere window dressing to give us the appearance of democracy. Our politicians appear to fail and break promises because they are ruled by the unelected high level civil service who dictate the course and destiny of our state.

    Democracy has been abolished already but the population refuse to see beyond the facade of our populist vote catchers who are still given credence when they promise crap like 'reform' 'change'.
    In truth they are as impotent as a lame chick in a cattery.


  • #23
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    chalkitdown wrote: »
    Why not?

    Because forcing people to vote in the name of democracy equates to the exact opposite of what your proposed system puports to stand for.

    Besides how much police resources do you think should be dedicated to chasing up non-voters who turn out to be Dead/sick/abroad/etc ?
    Daegerty wrote: »
    Install a Direct Democracy, abolish politicians

    -1000


  • #24
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Because forcing people to vote in the name of democracy equates to the exact opposite of what your proposed system puports to stand for.

    Besides how much police resources do you think should be dedicated to chasing up non-voters who turn out to be Dead/sick/abroad/etc ?



    -1000

    I think Austrailia has mandatory voting, complete with a fine if you fail to vote without a good excuse.

    I think it's a good way to guard the system from fringe elements who certainly wont miss a vote to install whatever nutter promised them nutty things.


  • #25
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    RichieC wrote: »
    I think Austrailia has mandatory voting, complete with a fine if you fail to vote without a good excuse.

    You didnt answer my question.

    If one doesnt vote and decline to pay the fine how much police resourses are spent chasing you up ?

    And what is accepted as an excuse legally ?
    RichieC wrote: »
    I think it's a good way to guard the system from fringe elements who certainly wont miss a vote to install whatever nutter promised them nutty things.

    On the other hand it might have exactly the opposite effect.


  • #26
    Daegerty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Daegerty


    Mike 1972 wrote: »


    -1000


    You'll miss the politicians when they're gone?


  • #27
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    You didnt answer my question.

    If one doesnt vote and decline to pay the fine how much police resourses are spent chasing you up ?

    And what is accepted as an excuse legally ?

    well I'd imagine there would have to be some kind of system for chasing down non voters and it would obviously cost money, sure there's loads of Civil servants at a loose end, what are they doing in the local appointments commission while the hiring embargo is in place?
    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    On the other hand it might have exactly the opposite effect.

    No, it's not going to radicalise an entire nation... I imagine the nation as a wholes political ideology would look like a nice bell curve from left to right, it would isolate the left and right loonys.


  • #28
    ilovesleep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    I would have been in favour of compulsory voting so that whoever elected would represent the majority of the country. but i dont think it would be a good idea. there are people who have no politicial interests. god knows what kind of damage they would do with their vote. Then there are people who vote but behave like sheep. I'd be in favour of a license to vote instead. Make people earn their vote.


  • #29
    Hookah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Hookah


    Nobody voted for the loosening of financial regulations.

    Nobody voted for NAMA.

    Nobody voted for the bank guarantee.

    Nobody voted for the EU/IMF deal.

    It's a little rich blaming the voters of Ireland for the economic mess.


  • #30
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    RichieC wrote: »
    No, it's not going to radicalise an entire nation...

    Forcing people to do something frequently leads to a fuk you type response
    RichieC wrote: »
    well I'd imagine there would have to be some kind of system for chasing down non voters and it would obviously cost money...

    No sh1t ?
    RichieC wrote: »
    sure there's loads of Civil servants at a loose end.....
    :rolleyes:


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  • #31
    TanG411
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    Why hasn't whiteonion been banned for trolling yet?

    Read his posts, they are all troll.


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