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Is it a sign of strength to walk away from a fight?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭sollar


    Do you mean walk away or run away shrieking and ashen faced!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 166 ✭✭jimcoolding


    *Strength


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭gaz wac


    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭gaz wac


    Id walk away. The last fight i was in, it was over a girl we both liked and i had to ask for a break in the middle cos i was knackered :o...i won though !! *


    *in my head :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,838 ✭✭✭phill106


    Op Walk away from trouble if you can. It won't mean you're weak if you turn the other cheek. I hope you're old enough to understand...

    OP, you don't have to fight to be a man!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Always best to walk away, even if your opponent keeps coming after you keep telling him to fùck off. If he doesn't and swings then you're left with little choice, even then keep walking away. (Obviously, don't turn your back on him or you'll get a sly dig)

    What'll happen is the Gardaì will pay a nice visit, drop you off some lovely summons and you wind up court. All over some dick who wouldn't leave you alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Kernel wrote: »
    Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you from experience. :)

    No reason to be fighting over a drunken load of ****e / drink mixup. You could have hurt the lad, ended up in court, he could have hurt you, or someone else could have gotten hurt. For what? A watered down jar of piss that yer man probably genuinely thought was his anyways? ;)

    If your pride is still nagging at you then say it to the guys face when you're both sober. That may not even be worth the effort tbh.

    I'd argue with you, but I've no chance of winning due to your experience.

    :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    In this case yes

    But if that person was giving constant hassle and bullying, well some people mistake inaction for weakness.
    Only one thing they understand is a punch to the face if you do it right and you never have to do it again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭whatsamsn


    Naos wrote: »
    I'm a guy and I can understand that you'd be pissedd off, I'd be very pissed of if someone slept with my non existant gf and then insulted me about it.

    However, I have the option to either punch him or to let it go. If I punch him, then why shouldn't I be held accountable under the law?

    hmmm, sounds like you are baiting me in for a law debate now ;)

    but anyways, yeah the law can be funny.
    Like in our example, said guy can be in your face, slagging you, even baiting you. Then you give in and punch him... then suddenly you are the bad guy in the eyes of the law ... and before you say, yeah i know once you lay your hands on someone it all changes. But, the law isnt perfect. Mainly cause even events can be twisted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭Wazdakka


    In the words of Charlie Sheen...

    "Nice guys finish last..
    Winners finish on her face.."


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    it's usually the most sensislble thing to do as you can seriously hurt somebody or be hurt by them but sense isn't always the path. I wouldn't criticize anybody for walking away (whether or not they don't want to or can't fight) or choosing to fight. Each situation is different.

    I'm not in the slightest bit tough or a fighter so I tend to think you should only do it if you have to. Last time I hit somebody was because it was a crowd of scuts giving me grief outside my own house and I felt I had no choice as they'd be back for more if I backed down. In general though, I think avoiding fighting if possible is the way to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Standman


    You'd swear being on a night out is some kind of epic battlefield where the normal rules of day to day life don't apply. If someone rudely takes your stapler at work would consider kicking the **** out of him?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Always best to walk away, even if your opponent keeps coming after you keep telling him to fùck off. If he doesn't and swings then you're left with little choice, even then keep walking away. (Obviously, don't turn your back on him or you'll get a sly dig)

    What'll happen is the Gardaì will pay a nice visit, drop you off some lovely summons and you wind up court. All over some dick who wouldn't leave you alone.

    That's all well and good but what if the Gatlin boys came callin' one day when you're out workin' ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Well it depends not backing down from every fight is a bit of a dickish way to behave but at the same time if someone speaks or acts in a way towards you that you dont like you have to let them know what is and isnt acceptable or they'll keep doing it. I was out with a friend of mine the other night he got drunk and in an arguement with a girl, I went over to calm it down and he started argueing with me for no reason I let it go but the next day I called him to let him know I wasnt happy with the way he talked to me. Never backing down from a fight and not standing up for yourself are two different things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy


    Kernel wrote: »
    Yeah, it's a sh1t end to everyone's night alright. And you'll soon find that people (rightly) wouldn't want to associate with someone who goes fighting everytime something minor presents itself. Civility is the way forward gentlemen, unless we think of ourselves as mindless bucks bashing heads to show dominance, or gorillas beating our chests. I'm watching too much animal planet.


    Very true


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 825 ✭✭✭Dwellingdweller


    I think it's a sign of strength if you're the stronger one there. but I suppose thats a paradox, the only way ya can really find out who's stronger is to rumble. :P


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    WWBLD?

    What would Bruce Lee do? I believe he would lure them onto a small boat, a skiff if you will, and threaten to cut them loose if they try to climb back on the boat. Thus winning the fight.

    That plan requires a boat though.


    This being AH, I believe a kick in the face is in order.

    EDIT: More seriously, don't fight unless you've accepted that someone may die as a result. Skulls are fickle things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,227 ✭✭✭gifted


    Well done for walking away. You woke up the next morning feeling a bit sheepish about it, why? Would it not be worse to have woken up covered in bruises, sitting in a cell, or not wake up at all? How many people end up in court because of a stupid fight?

    You done the right thing, people now know that they can go for a pint with you and there will be no trouble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    A €4 pint is not worth going to court or winding up in hospital.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,761 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Oink wrote: »
    WWBLD?


    EDIT: More seriously, don't fight unless you've accepted that someone may die as a result. Skulls are fickle things.

    This is the thing, if most people were able to keep in mind that just one punch could lead to someone falling backwards and cracking their skulls on the concrete, there would be less fatal fights.
    so yes i would try to leg it, i don't care what anyone thinks of that choice.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Biggest mistake of my life was not walking away from a fight.

    So I say unless you need to defend yourself or someone else from a beating, don't walk .. run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭theboss80


    You probably did the right thing , well it sounds like he wasnt that bothered by you if he told ya to F off and turned his back on you.

    But from now on you must say to yourself when presented with a situation like that WHAT WOULD CHUCK NORRIS DO?

    Roundhouse the douchebag


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    Only if OP means strength to walk away from stupid situations. There are few times when fighting is nescesary, sometimes it is unavoidable - some eijits come at you when your walking home at night and want to fight, and sometimes it is avoidable - arguments in pubs and clubs are totally avoidable, that kind of thing. I don't think choosing not to fight is being cowardly, it's a sign of maturity and responsibility (if not to yourself then others). /me smokes more crack.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    IIRC the law says you have to back down from a fight unless you are in your home , you can't stand your ground

    IIRC (and this may be UK) the law says that you don't need to actually strike someone to be guilty of assault, threatening and raising your fist within striking distance may be enough

    so what you do is let the other guy strike first and get him done for assault, then you can put an ad in a local paper / get a journalist to report it - maybe get them fired or something :pac:

    then in round 2 you can deck them , some excuse you felt the law didn't protect you ( cos otherwise there wouldn't be round 2) and you were in fear of loosing your life and so it's not murder but pre-emptive self defence and it's not armed robbery if the gun isn't loaded




    Don't get angry , get even ;)



    In the real world you hear about stuff like fingers getting bitten off, detached retinas, no point risking that the other guy gets lucky or his mates join in or a weapon being produced.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    effluent wrote: »
    Is it a sign of strenght to walk away from a fight over something very little?

    The other night I was out having a few drinks with a few friends. One of my friends had to go to thr jacks so I said I'd watch his drink. But I got chatting to someone and lost concentration and a group of guys started drinking at the table where my friends drink was. When my friend came back I handed what I thought was his drink, but was not his drink and one of the guys switched it, which is pretty scumy. But when I told him that he mixed up his drink he took bit of a hissy fit and just kept shouting Fcuk off and moved (what was realy his drink) the drink on the counter and kept saying it and turned around and returned to drinking. At the time I was pretty pissed off at being spoken to like that and felt like giving him a wack behind his neck while he was downing the stolen pint, I've never been spoken to like this by anyone. This guy is in my college and when ever I walk by him he looks emmbaressed and looks away.

    Anyways how do you think I handled the situation, did I bottle it or did I do the right thing?
    You really have been sheltered , small drunken mistake about a drink. Happens all the time .Is this the worst thing thats ever happened to you ? If yes ,then you are going to have some wake up call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 409 ✭✭lecker Hendl


    Anything that's worth having
    Is sure enough worth fighting for
    Quitings out of the question
    When it gets tough gotta fight some more
    We gotta fight fight fight fight fight for this love
    We gotta fight fight fight fight fight for this love
    We gotta fight fight fight fight fight for this love
    Its worth having its worth fighting for (Oh)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Havermeyer


    Not necessarily.

    It is, however, a sign of mobility.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 160 ✭✭.same.


    I usually run showing people my great strength by jump over tables and chairs on my way out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭bmarley


    "Everyone considered him the coward of the county" - I tell my son to walk away, what's to be proved by fighting anyway we're a peace loving country.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭whatsamsn


    bmarley wrote: »
    "Everyone considered him the coward of the county" - I tell my son to walk away, what's to be proved by fighting anyway we're a peace loving country.

    :confused:

    But anyways, yeah its about whats been done and how you can do it. "context" i guess.

    You should walk away from the majority of things in life 'cause the **** that can come later isnt worth it. HOWEVER! there are times in life you have to fight and not just in "self-defense" :rolleyes:

    If you gotta fight someone, do so when its just you and him (ie him walking into his estate one dark night or whatever) and try to kick the crap outta him. No witnesses just his word against yours. Its the only way you stand half a chance to get away with things.


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