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Daley V Diaz, Strikeforce, April 9th 2011

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Theyre only illegal to a grounded opponent.Can be done to a standing opponent.
    Illegal to a grounded opponent though cause they can be really dangerous. You can generate a lot of force kicking like that and coming up under the chin of someone that close with that power is asking for trouble.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    Why Big John, why? You could have let it go another few seconds.
    Must say I've a lot more respect for Daley after that match. Dropped Diaz twice. wow.

    Lol at Jardine getting a draw out of that match.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    Ah that makes sense, so Jardine must have had a knee on the canvas. Missed the replay :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    Diaz / Daley is fight of the year so far and it will take a hell of a lot to stop it from getting round of the year. Awesome 5 minutes of fighting. We will probably see a rematch in about a year and a half though with both of those on longish contracts with Strikeforce.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    Gomi/Diaz fight here if you're looking for more of the same.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsE5CpUrBdY


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    calex71 wrote: »
    Yeah , I'm not a fighter so won't pretend to understand but baffles me why up kicks from the bottom are classed as illegal :confused:

    The main reason they are illegal is to prevent soccer kicks to the head of a grounded opponent. That's in the unified rules because it was viewed as barbaric looking and dangerous. And SF are using the unified rules now.

    I don't think they were thinking about upkicks to a grounded opponent when they made the rule, its no more dangerous than many perfectly legal strikes. It just came about because of the wording of the rule.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 713 ✭✭✭HellsAngel


    ShagNastii wrote: »
    I'm very much on par with your view of Daley and fighter akin to Daley. I watch UFC to see guys fight. Yeah Daley was an absolute idiot for giving Kos a slap( it was a childish punch, if Daley wanted to do severe damage like a total scumbag he could have demolished with a real punch)

    The way to look at it, all this talk of looking for role models and the instances of MMA talking from their high horses is at times laughable.

    Smack talkers, douchebags and fueds for me make fights one million times more entertaining and IMO it really doesn't take away from my appricatiation of the "sporting" part of MMA.

    Give me two hotheaded guys with no respect for each other over two guys hugging claiming they are going to get "fight of the night" any day.
    Your big British hero Daley got a good old American ass kicking last night :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    HellsAngel wrote: »
    Your big British hero Daley got a good old American ass kicking last night :D

    Sherdog -->


  • Posts: 3,598 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    HellsAngel wrote: »
    Your big British hero Daley got a good old American ass kicking last night :D

    Either you're a great troll or just enjoy making ignorant statements.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    Delighted with the result of the main event.

    I am also happy to see Jardine survive that fight considering the short notice he had. He should have lost though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    Delighted with the result of the main event.

    I am also happy to see Jardine survive that fight considering the short notice he had. He should have lost though.

    Well he showed that Mousasi couldn't knock him out. I think Mousasi won too but Jardine had stated he had overtrained in his last few UFC fights. Going by how much punishment he was able to take on a week's notice last night, it would be interesting to see how a rematch would look if he had proper time to prepare. It was actually quite a good fight so I hope they do it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,116 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    One of the judges had it 29-27 to Mousasi. I just don't see how anyone could have had Jardine losing the first round.

    At worst it was a 10-10 round and Mousasi had a point deducted, so it should have been 10-9 to Jardine.

    He definitely lost the next two rounds though, so 29-28 to Mousasi when it was all said and done.

    Fair play to Jardine for taking the fight on nine days notice and performing as well as he did, but I hope the judges didn't factor that into their decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    One of the judges had it 29-27 to Mousasi. I just don't see how anyone could have had Jardine losing the first round.

    At worst it was a 10-10 round and Mousasi had a point deducted, so it should have been 10-9 to Jardine.

    He definitely lost the next two rounds though, so 29-28 to Mousasi when it was all said and done.

    Fair play to Jardine for taking the fight on nine days notice and performing as well as he did, but I hope the judges didn't factor that into their decision.

    Simple. He got 4 take downs but thats it. Didnt land 1 strike on the ground, didnt advance position once and couldnt hold mousasi down for more then about 20 seconds anytime. Thats under 2 minutes of a 5 minute round. The rest of it involved him getting out struck over and over on his feet. Mousasi outstruck him both standing and on the ground and negated the takedowns by getting back up without much effort.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    The Jardine fight should not have been a draw.

    In general thought it was a good show. In general I find Strikeforce is more entertaining than the UFC. If they could get Bas and someone else as commentators they'd be sorted.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    dandana.jpg


  • Posts: 3,598 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    These Dana-Strikeforce pictures are hilarious. Imagine someone showed us these in December and told us this was in April.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    I would think it's an April fool's joke :pac:

    And Dana White said this on twitter about Paul Daley:
    I give him all the respect in the world for that fight. They went to war!

    Next we'll see him wearing an M1 t-shirt and taking pictures with Fedor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭rivalius13


    True. Mousasi seriously deserved to win that. Absolutely destroyed Jardine the entire fight. Brings the point back up again of why score anything for a takedown when nothing gets done with it.
    Getting a takedown isn't easy, or at least it shouldn't be. I thought that round went to Jardine, he was able to take down Mousasi with ease, you know the judges have a boner for takedowns, defend those ****ers.

    Loved the crowd booing Cecil Peoples.


    You guys are all missing the REAL news about last night though, the only thing people should be talking about!
    l73ktg-b78675878z120100813083710000gjdpru8f1.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    What good is a takedown if you can't do anything with it, not even control your opponent and keep them down.Those takedowns were worthless and tired jardine more then mousasi.No way did he deserve the round more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    dave1982 wrote: »
    Diaz should win this provided he don't think he can exchange with Daly.

    Diaz will go for the single leg take Daly down frustrate him for a while and eventually submit him.If he can't get him down well night night Diaz


    I hang my head in shame

    I said the same about him fighting Robbie Lawler years ago:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭Stephen_King


    rivalius13 wrote: »
    You guys are all missing the REAL news about last night though, the only thing people should be talking about!
    l73ktg-b78675878z120100813083710000gjdpru8f1.jpg

    Agreed. I had to do a doubletake when I saw that dude, I thought Tank Abbot had got his act together and gone into reffing.


  • Posts: 3,598 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thought Melendez was going to have to cut Kawajiri to the bone to get the fight stopped by Peoples.
    His last reffing stint was a bit of a shambles.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    Thought Melendez was going to have to cut Kawajiri to the bone to get the fight stopped by Peoples.
    His last reffing stint was a bit of a shambles.

    Thought he did ok there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,109 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    only just watched it now

    how on earth to you finish nick diaz when he took daleys best
    shots and still came out on top

    what a round though
    one of the best rounds ive ever seen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,561 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    mailburner wrote: »
    only just watched it now

    how on earth to you finish nick diaz when he took daleys best
    shots and still came out on top

    what a round though
    one of the best rounds ive ever seen
    Link for this?


    Pretty happy with my predictions, so so close to 4 out of 4 (1 judge away, not even the wrong guy but a draw)
    Mellor wrote: »
    Has any one seen this availible for betting on
    Most palces only have the other 3 main fights


    Also, should we not just make this a thread for the whole event.

    Daley once again fights under a Zuffa promotion :eek:


    Nick Diaz vs. Paul Daley
    Diaz easilys takes down and wins from the ground

    Gilbert Melendez vs. Tatsuya Kawajiri
    Melendez wins this easily

    Gegard Mousasi vs. Keith Jardine
    I ahve no idea why Jarine is even here, purely as a token jestrue from zuffa. His final form in the UFC was poor, he didn't impress in the regional circut. Mousasi by TKO

    Shinya Aoki vs. Lyle Beerbohm
    Aoki by submission


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭tomhalloween


    Any one else notice the knee raise **** Cecil Peoples does after he says lets get it on? its hilarious


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 599 ✭✭✭Ian Whelan


    Mellor wrote: »
    Link for this?


    Pretty happy with my predictions, so so close to 4 out of 4 (1 judge away, not even the wrong guy but a draw)

    Try telling that to Paddy Power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,109 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    Mellor wrote: »
    Link for this?


    Pretty happy with my predictions, so so close to 4 out of 4 (1 judge away, not even the wrong guy but a draw)

    http://www.fights4all.com/index.html


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I was incredibly impressed by Diaz, I thought it was over when he went down but he willed his way through it.

    Also what exactly was Beerbohm thinking clinching with Aoki?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    I love when Diaz has a guy on the cage covering up he makes every shot count, no stupid power punches to the guys arm's, just body punches and straight jab through the defense.


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