The Shell to Sea protests

CommuterIE · 07-04-2011 11:39PM #1

To me, the whole protest has been blown out of proportion...

A lot of the protesters have very little education... we seen one woman on RTE news claiming she'd be scared if her cousin crossed the road, fearing the pipe under it would explode!

The Shell pipeline will be built, no matter what these local protesters say... they've certainly been pissing off the Gradai for the last number of years... THE PIPE WILL BE BUILT, get over it and go back to doing whatever you do :mad:

Saila · 07-04-2011 11:43PM

krusties dont work, thats what they do

mikemac · 07-04-2011 11:46PM

Not only crusties involved, highly paid staff too with good jobs.
Maura Harrington, school principal missing days from work to go on protests :rolleyes:

Then she said she was going on hunger strike until a certain ship left Irish waters.
Shame she didn't take it to the ultimate end.

Drove a vehicle at gardai and then came crying on the radio and the gardai smashed the window to stop it rolling
I remember that as I think it was around the time Newstalk Radio went from Dublin only to a national station, was listening that day

Retired from teaching now. She can devote her full energy to be an attention seeker

CommuterIE · 07-04-2011 11:47PM

feelingstressed wrote: »

Maura Harrington, school principal missing days from work to go on protests :rolleyes:

Then she said she was going on hunger strike until a certain ship left Irish waters.
Shame she didn't take it to the ultimate end

Drove a vehicle at gardai and then came crying on the radio and the gardai smashed the window to stop it.
I remember that as I think it was around the time Newstalk Radio went from Dublin only to a national station, was listening that day

I certainly hope that she is not a principal anymore.... I think she should have a full time position as a nutjob

dvpower · 07-04-2011 11:48PM

They're going to ram that pipe right into Co. Mayo whether she likes it or not.

At least that's what the local cops are saying.

baldbear · 07-04-2011 11:48PM

Well i'd be pretty damn pissed off if the government placed a compulsive purchase order on my land for a private company. Brown envelopes and shady dealings via Fianna Fail.

Some protestors are over the top but some cops are just as bad. Working for a private company basically.

mikemac · 07-04-2011 11:49PM

CommuterIE wrote: »

I certainly hope that she is not a principal anymore.... I think she should have a full time position as a nutjob

Sorry, I updated my post after that

Yes, she is retired now. School principal's pension however much that is

Dudess · 07-04-2011 11:50PM

Depends on the protestor - hate this "Dur... crusties should be shot" crap in order to show how right-wing and no-nonsense one is. Some protestors behave idiotically, but others are fighting for a cause they genuinely believe in.
And no matter how unco-operative the women at the centre of the current investigation into the guards were, and no matter how hysterical and distorted the media coverage of the case (and there really is some ridiculous rubbish being published) they did not deserve to be referenced in that way by those guards.

Orando Broom · 07-04-2011 11:51PM

I find it disquieting that it's rent-a-mob with Sinn Fein/ ex paramilitary trimmings doing the protesting.

Also I have no truck with hippies and crusties. Jobless cretins to a body.

CommuterIE · 07-04-2011 11:51PM

baldbear wrote: »

Well i'd be pretty damn pissed off if the government placed a compulsive purchase order on my land for a private company. Brown envelopes and shady dealings via Fianna Fail.

Some protestors are over the top but some cops are just as bad. Working for a private company basically.

They took over little swathes of land, not entire farms/houses... it is fully lawful, and no those cops are working for the State and defending Shells right to build it, which they are in the right

ScumLord · 07-04-2011 11:52PM

feelingstressed wrote: »

Then she said she was going on hunger strike until a certain ship left Irish waters.
Shame she didn't take it to the ultimate end.

I think you misunderstood, she is on a strike from hunger. She's stuffing her face for the cause, a true Irish hero.

Pace2008 · 07-04-2011 11:53PM

CommuterIE wrote: »

The Shell pipeline will be built, no matter what these local protesters say... they've certainly been pissing off the Gradai for the last number of years... THE PIPE WILL BE BUILT, get over it and go back to doing whatever you do :mad:

I haven't read enough about the situation to know where I stand on the issue, but I do know the kind of attitude you're displaying here is what has this country ****ed and will have this country ****ed harder.

CommuterIE · 07-04-2011 11:56PM

Pace2008 wrote: »

I haven't read enough about the situation to know where I stand on the issue, but I do know the kind of attitude you're displaying here is what has this country ****ed and will have this country ****ed harder.

It is entirely legal and will generate much needed revenue for the exchequer... local protesters jumping on tractors, trucks etc won't change that

Pride Fighter · 07-04-2011 11:56PM

I said yes. But I am opposed to the absolute selling off of our national resources by those in Fianna Fail (Ray McSharry and Bertie Ahern if I remember correctly) for 1 cent.

What should happen is the pipe being built and the oil wealth be used to fix our deficit and fund social services. This would involve a nationalised oil company and telling shell where to go.

yawha · 07-04-2011 11:57PM

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CommuterIE · 07-04-2011 11:58PM

Pride Fighter wrote: »

I said yes. But I am opposed to the absolute selling off of our national resources by those in Fianna Fail (Ray McSharry and Bertie Ahern if I remember correctly) for 1 cent.

What should happen is the pipe being built and the oil wealth be used to fix our deficit and fund social services. This would involve a nationalised oil company and telling shell where to go.

This isn't oil though, it's gas

ScumLord · 08-04-2011 12:00AM

Pride Fighter wrote: »

I said yes. But I am opposed to the absolute selling off of our national resources by those in Fianna Fail (Ray McSharry and Bertie Ahern if I remember correctly) for 1 cent.

What should happen is the pipe being built and the oil wealth be used to fix our deficit and fund social services. This would involve a nationalised oil company and telling shell where to go.

I agree fully that it's our gas and the Irish state should be using the revenue from it but Shell know what their doing and we could do with their expertise, just tax it so that both Ireland and Shell can make a handsome profit.

angry_fox · 08-04-2011 12:00AM

to be fair the krusties are very lucky that they have the shell to sea protest after the glen of the downs thing ended. What would the have done if shell were not building that pipeline? headed off to Zimbabwe or some other god for saken place to protest against what ever dictator is committing human rights abuses every day?? Not at all they headed off to mayo, hijacked a protest and cost the tax payer a nice bit of money.
Heroes the lot of them :rolleyes:

Pride Fighter · 08-04-2011 12:02AM

CommuterIE wrote: »

This isn't oil though, it's gas

Whatever mineral wealth it is is irrelevant, my point still stands.

Humans eh! · 08-04-2011 12:03AM

CommuterIE wrote: »

To me, the whole protest has been blown out of proportion...

A lot of the protesters have very little education... we seen one woman on RTE news claiming she'd be scared if her cousin crossed the road, fearing the pipe under it would explode!

The Shell pipeline will be built, no matter what these local protesters say... they've certainly been pissing off the Gradai for the last number of years... THE PIPE WILL BE BUILT, get over it and go back to doing whatever you do :mad:

'have very little education'
Imho only someone with very little education would make a sweeping generalisation like that.

'Gradai'
See above.
I assume that you are fully supportive of Shell and their 'operations' in the Nigerian Delta also?

wild_cat · 08-04-2011 12:05AM

Pride Fighter wrote: »

I said yes. But I am opposed to the absolute selling off of our national resources by those in Fianna Fail (Ray McSharry and Bertie Ahern if I remember correctly) for 1 cent.

What should happen is the pipe being built and the oil wealth be used to fix our deficit and fund social services. This would involve a nationalised oil company and telling shell where to go.

Very true, my main opposition to it being built is all to do with shell.

Pace2008 · 08-04-2011 12:07AM

CommuterIE wrote: »

It is entirely legal and will generate much needed revenue for the exchequer... local protesters jumping on tractors, trucks etc won't change that

By whatever values these people hold, the building of the pipeline is wrong. I certainly don't think everything that's legal is right, and if you disagree strongly with something then it's you're prerogative to express your distase, via protest you see fit (though I don't agree with violent protest except perhaps in the most extreme of circumstances).

This doesn't just apply to the Shell to Sea protests. If we all just say "ah sure it's done, get over it" then we're a bunch of doormats just asking to be walked all over.

Pride Fighter · 08-04-2011 12:07AM

ScumLord wrote: »

I agree fully that it's our gas and the Irish state should be using the revenue from it but Shell know what their doing and we could do with their expertise, just tax it so that both Ireland and Shell can make a handsome profit.

There is a piece of legislation called the Keating Principles. Its basically tax the hell out of companies making huge profits in Ireland. I think the tax is 75%. Its not been implemented in yonks though.

Provided it cannot be nationalised, I'd be in favour of that high a tax on the gas.

Krusader · 08-04-2011 12:07AM

Ah yes, Royal Dutch Shell, i'm sure they have the Irish/Mayo people's best interests at heart

squod · 08-04-2011 12:10AM

CommuterIE wrote: »

To me, the whole protest has been blown out of proportion...

A lot of the protesters have very little education... we seen one woman on RTE news claiming she'd be scared if her cousin crossed the road, fearing the pipe under it would explode!

The Shell pipeline will be built, no matter what these local protesters say... they've certainly been pissing off the Gradai for the last number of years... THE PIPE WILL BE BUILT, get over it and go back to doing whatever you do :mad:

Way to start a thread OP. Emptying our pockets into Cowen's mates bank not enough for you? Anything else you'd like us give away?
You maybe? :rolleyes:

ScumLord · 08-04-2011 12:10AM

Crosáidí wrote: »

Ah yes, Royal Dutch Shell, i'm sure they have the Irish/Mayo people's best interests at heart

No all they care about is money, but then that's every company in the world. All we can do is milk them for cash.

Poor Craythur · 08-04-2011 12:12AM

feelingstressed wrote: »

Not only crusties involved, highly paid staff too with good jobs.
Maura Harrington, school principal missing days from work to go on protests :rolleyes:

Then she said she was going on hunger strike until a certain ship left Irish waters.
Shame she didn't take it to the ultimate end.

Drove a vehicle at gardai and then came crying on the radio and the gardai smashed the window to stop it rolling
I remember that as I think it was around the time Newstalk Radio went from Dublin only to a national station, was listening that day

Retired from teaching now. She can devote her full energy to be an attention seeker

The same woman was complaining recently about the Queen going to watch a hurling match in Croke Park. Does the woman just spend her days looking for things to make a big stink about?

squod · 08-04-2011 12:12AM

Pride Fighter wrote: »

There is a piece of legislation called the Keating Principles. Its basically tax the hell out of companies making huge profits in Ireland. I think the tax is 75%. Its not been implemented in yonks though.

Provided it cannot be nationalised, I'd be in favour of that high a tax on the gas.

Similar system working in Libya, massive rate of tax placed on the companies exporting oil.

Son Of A Vidic · 08-04-2011 12:12AM

Orando Broom wrote: »

I find it disquieting that it's rent-a-mob with Sinn Fein/ ex paramilitary trimmings doing the protesting.

Also I have no truck with hippies and crusties. Jobless cretins to a body.

Fcuk it doesn't take long does it? What else will Sinn Fein be blamed for? This shit gets so tired.

Just for the record, I'm all for the pipeline because it is a simple economic necessity. Such reserves are taking on an increased strategic value with fuel prices rising in the current economic climate. Whether it's natural gas or oil, we must secure and develop what reserves we have.

professore · 08-04-2011 12:15AM

Of all the things to protest about in this country, the shell pipeline must be 1 millionth on the list. And to think my taxes are paying for these losers.

dlofnep · 08-04-2011 12:16AM

Interesting how it's always the character of the protesters that's attacked, rather than the essence of their debate - the mass sell-off of our resources.

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