league of ireland admission prices

celtictiger32 · 07-04-2011 02:47AM #1

i was down in tolka last week for the shels v limerick game. (my first game of the season im sorry to admit) and was disappointed to see that shels are still charging 15 euro into the game, personallly i think this price is too high especially for a first division game. i remember reading an article somewhere that bayern munich charge 4 euro into their home and get a full house regularly. im not saying lower the price and you will see the sold out signs down in tolka every week but surely a lower price would attract a lot more into the ground and possibly some of the supporters that dont go anymore because of the said reason (and i know for a fact there is a good few). just putting it out there anyway to see what you think and also curious what the price is at other grounds around the country?......

Fromvert · 07-04-2011 02:54AM

Bayern Munich tickets are between €30 - €70 for seated, €15 for standing and €5 for blind and disabled people.

€15 seems fair enough to me.

partyndbs · 07-04-2011 03:21AM

too expensive but its economies of scale kinda, if a club can charge low prices its because they get so many fans that they are able to. irish teams rely so much on the small number of fans so have to charge a higher price

applehunter · 07-04-2011 03:39AM

€10 to get into Turners Cross.

Anything over €10 for the 1st division is a rip off tbh.

celtictiger32 · 07-04-2011 04:39AM

partyndbs wrote: »

too expensive but its economies of scale kinda, if a club can charge low prices its because they get so many fans that they are able to. irish teams rely so much on the small number of fans so have to charge a higher price

would they not get more through the turnstiles if the prices were lower and in turn maybe a higher revenue overall?

partyndbs · 07-04-2011 04:41AM

mayb for a team like shamrock rovers but for bohs for example i think it wouldnt make a difference if the price was 5 euro and 15 euro, the same people are gonna go week in week out. just my opinion

celtictiger32 · 07-04-2011 04:45AM

i dont know i know a good few league of ireland fans who were regular attendees at games who just wont pay that money to go to a game some of them through recession reasons and just cant afford it and others just out of protest. imo i think even 10 euro would be a fair enough price for any of the games.

partyndbs · 07-04-2011 04:47AM

yeah mayb just something i thought. i think a 5er-10er should be the prices.

celtictiger32 · 07-04-2011 04:58AM

Fromvert wrote: »

Bayern Munich tickets are between €30 - €70 for seated, €15 for standing and €5 for blind and disabled people.

€15 seems fair enough to me.

the article may have gotten it wrong with the 4 euro bit, but i know one guy who goes over to germany regularly for games and never pays anywhere near 30-70 he claims any of the games in germany are cheaper than here....

btw is standing sections not illegal now under fifa/uefa laws??

PomBear · 07-04-2011 05:01AM

Galway United's admissions are Adult admission €12, concession €10, secondary school €5. Family ticket €20, U12s free of charge accompanied.

celtictiger32 · 07-04-2011 05:09AM

at least they are doing some sort of a deal for the kids. i know bohs have contacted my club several times about free passes for the kids teams which i have to commend them on. they also go around the schools with passes too, its a great idea its promoting irish football to the next generation, getting bums on seats and when some of these kids carry on their support when theyre older they start paying their admission, buying jerseys etc

aliveandkicking · 07-04-2011 08:37AM

It's to do with the price elasticity of demand being so inelastic for LOI attendances. Shels average a crowd of 850ish charging €15. If they were to drop prices to say €10 (33% drop) they would need to increase their average crowd to 1275 (+50% increase) just to breakeven. That is not going to happen. It makes no financial sense to drop prices by 33% and think you are going to get a 50% increase in average attendances to enable you to breakeven.

bohsfan · 07-04-2011 09:20AM

aliveandkicking has hit the nail on the head there. A club would have to reduce prices for an entire season to really see what effects it had on average attendances.

Margins are so tight these days that a club could go bust if they carried out this experiment and it failed, so its not likely to happen unless attendances naturally go up first. Chicken and egg!

€15 is a bit steep for Div 1 alright...

gustavo · 07-04-2011 09:49AM

€15 for entry at Sligo Rovers - been the same price for at least 5 years I find it good value

stovelid · 07-04-2011 10:07AM

I don't think 15 is that bad. Using Germany as an example is disingenuous as it's pretty much a model league for supporters in all respects.

It's a vicious circle for LOI: the players and facilities don't warrant 15 quid but charge less and what's on offer will probably get even worse.

Where prices should be made competitive is in attracting kids (which rovers and other clubs already do) with lower prices and family season tickets.

SEPT 23 1989 · 07-04-2011 10:36AM

I have started bringing my daughter up to Tallaght to watch Rovers and i think its much better value bringing her there than going to the cinema or bowling or anything like that

Boskowski · 07-04-2011 10:43AM

stovelid wrote: »

I don't think 15 is that bad. Using Germany as an example is disingenuous as it's pretty much a model league for supporters in all respects.

I can't quite follow that. Especially since the better teams in the LOI are probably on 3rd division level in Germany and that's just an eduacted guess, it may not be at that even.

VinylJunkie · 07-04-2011 12:09PM

partyndbs wrote: »

yeah mayb just something i thought. i think a 5er-10er should be the prices.

What are you basing this on?

stovelid · 07-04-2011 12:10PM

Boskowski wrote: »

I can't quite follow that..

Read it again.

Pinturicchio · 07-04-2011 04:05PM

2011 Galway United admission prices:

Adult Ticket: €12

Students and O.A.P's.: €10

Seconday school students: €5

Kids U-12 GO FREE
Kids must be accompanied by an Adult

Family Ticket: €20
2 Adults & 2 Secondary School Students

CiaranC · 07-04-2011 04:12PM

Anyone who is going to go regularly will have a season ticket, making it far cheaper than 15 quid

celtictiger32 · 07-04-2011 04:18PM

aliveandkicking wrote: »

It's to do with the price elasticity of demand being so inelastic for LOI attendances. Shels average a crowd of 850ish charging €15. If they were to drop prices to say €10 (33% drop) they would need to increase their average crowd to 1275 (+50% increase) just to breakeven. That is not going to happen. It makes no financial sense to drop prices by 33% and think you are going to get a 50% increase in average attendances to enable you to breakeven.

the op mentioned an experiment of reducing prices for a season, i think thats a good idea especially in the 1st division where the likes of wage bills etc wouldnt be too high. i honestly believe that if the price was say 10 euro that your figure of 1275 wouldnt be that far off as i said 15 euro for a first division game is putting people off and maybe that reduction would bring some of these people back to the games

Boskowski wrote: »

I can't quite follow that. Especially since the better teams in the LOI are probably on 3rd division level in Germany and that's just an eduacted guess, it may not be at that even.

i know were not exactly the elite of european football, but german 3rd division??? i dont think so.

DB10 · 07-04-2011 04:24PM

Some people pay alot more to see Ireland these days, and lets be honest they aren't Brazil are they.

The prices are ridiculous especially to see many players who arent up to the levels required for such prices. A tenner is amble amount especially for Div 1.

The FAI though should be lowering their prices which is more important. Or maybe have some sort of budget deal for LOI fans.

Every LOI season ticket holder gets half price for every Ireland game...?

I'm dont have a LOI team btw.

Gillington · 07-04-2011 04:30PM

I think €15 is fair enough for a premier game,but how long can clubs realistically afford to keep it that? Bump it up to €20 and you'll scare everyone off

stovelid · 07-04-2011 04:32PM

DB10 wrote: »

Or maybe have some sort of budget deal for LOI fans.
.

This exists.

They're called season tickets.

DB10 · 07-04-2011 04:32PM

15 seems quite high to me. Alot of people are living on the dole.

DB10 · 07-04-2011 04:34PM

stovelid wrote: »

This exists.

They're called season tickets.

??

I'm saying that LOI fans should get in cheaper to Ireland international games with their club season ticket.

If this deal exists then apologies because I've never heard of it.

Le King · 07-04-2011 04:38PM

Considering kids get between 10-15 euro pocket money, if that now-a-days. 15 quid is very steep. I presume kids are a 5er or something? What are the incentives for a 14-17 y/o to go?

Quite simply kids from 12 and above being forced to pay adult prices turns people away. Especially when they can get their football feed from their TV and playing it locally.

Sorry but the standard of football isn't going to get a 15 year old out of his house to pay 15 quid to watch it. I imagine a new ticketing pricing policy should be introduced which would allow for the expansion of the LoI. Some of the attendances are quite simply shocking.

stovelid · 07-04-2011 04:41PM

DB10 wrote: »

??

I'm saying that LOI fans should get in cheaper to Ireland international games with their club season ticket.

If this deal exists then apologies because I've never heard of it.

Ah right, I meant LOI games. Misunderstood because the FAI are repsonsible for the league too - not just Ireland.

Don't really care about Ireland freebies to be honest. I would say a lot of the LOI syupport don't either.

The point about cheap LOI tickets is that if you have season ticket - especially a family one - it works out far cheaper than paying in at the gate every week.

Pinturicchio · 07-04-2011 04:44PM

Le King wrote: »

Considering kids get between 10-15 euro pocket money, if that now-a-days. 15 quid is very steep. I presume kids are a 5er or something? What are the incentives for a 14-17 y/o to go?

Quite simply kids from 12 and above being forced to pay adult prices turns people away. Especially when they can get their football feed from their TV and playing it locally.

Sorry but the standard of football isn't going to get a 15 year old out of his house to pay 15 quid to watch it. I imagine a new ticketing pricing policy should be introduced which would allow for the expansion of the LoI. Some of the attendances are quite simply shocking.

Under 12s are free and secondary school students are a fiver in to Terryland.

stovelid · 07-04-2011 04:48PM

By the way, am I the only one that gets a pain in my tits with constant lectures on ticket prices and making the league attractive from people that wouldn't go to a game if it was being played beside their back garden with 50 cent admission?

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