Euro Lotto Ticket Conundrum

FlutterinBantam · 06-04-2011 09:11AM

RichieC wrote: »

Total Chancer but I don't blame her.

Why am I not surprised:rolleyes:

bohsfan · 06-04-2011 09:11AM

It's hard to judge this one as none of us know all the facts...

However, if she had really wanted to buy the ticket once she had issued it I don't see why she couldn't have set it to one side and bought it on her lunch, after her shift or even on the spot.

It would seem that the ticket was left in the till as a mistake to cancel out the €9 that the till would have been down. It was only the next day then once the Lottery called that they realised it was a winner.

I would be kicking myself for not just saying nothing to anyone and buying the ticket. Although, at the time €9 would have seemed a lot to shell out for a mistaken ticket so I would probably have just left it in the till aswell...

mkdon05 · 06-04-2011 09:13AM

What about the person that tried to buy the lotto ticket originally? If the winning line was on one of the first 2 lines of the 9euro ticket, she basically cheated them out of the winnings through her mistake!

s_carnage · 06-04-2011 09:26AM

mkdon05 wrote: »

What about the person that tried to buy the lotto ticket originally? If the winning line was on one of the first 2 lines of the 9euro ticket, she basically cheated them out of the winnings through her mistake!

Not true because they were going to get a €4 ticket and that would not include the plus draw which this prize was won on.

I think this lady was a chancer because she if she checked the ticket before paying there is no way she would have shelled out €9 for a dud ticket. Suppose it was worth a go!!

Plazaman · 06-04-2011 09:35AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Right well send me a link to an article that says the draw was that night because it's not mentioned in the OP. I'm going on what OP posted and you're going on a presumption that the draw was that night.

None of us are wrong until we know when the draw was.

The article in The Star doesn't actually say if the draw was that night but does quote the gorl as saying "I didn't even watch the Euromillions Draw" so I'm assuming she tried to buy the ticket after the fact.

I think now that Tesco have said they are giving the money to charity, how bad would she look if she did win her case and deny charities (and get the boot?). My advice to her : "Run Forrest, Run...."

Biggins · 06-04-2011 09:37AM

Plazaman wrote: »

...WTF? Am I not right in saying you don't own a lotto ticket unless you pay for it?

Yes. In terms of business and company law there is a thing called "consideration".
In order for her to be 100% legally entitled to the claim ownership of the ticket, she would have to show that she gave some form of monetary consideration for desiring the ticket, for a transaction to be show as legal - that both a buyer and a seller have gained to some extent by a business transaction.
Now, IF the shop had said "yes, you can have the ticket", then the shop would have been extending a form of credit and that could be taken into account as a form of forthcoming consideration which would strengthen her case - BUT - as the ticket was supposedly refused to her, such even such circumstances of subsequent forthcoming credit then was not allowed/applied.

Long story short - she's (a) chancing her arm and/or (b) has a genuine case but has a hell of an uphill legal battle to win.
...And although €500,000 is a lot of money, in the long run over a lifetime for what I assume might lead to her claim having an effect on any future career and reputation should crap come out in court about her too as the press might descend looking for a story angle (and they do!), her trying this claim might not be worth it in the long run...

zac8 · 06-04-2011 09:38AM

Poor sap who bought the original ticket will probably now know how close they came to winning 500k.

Elmer Blooker · 06-04-2011 09:44AM

Even a winning lotto ticket is worthless until it is signed by the winner or winners. Is her signature on the ticket? I wouldn't give much of a chance in court.

phasers · 06-04-2011 09:53AM

What a gob****e!

optogirl · 06-04-2011 10:00AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Honestly would love for this to happen to everyone who calls her a chancer etc.. See how you deal with trying to buy a ticket, being told you're not allowed and then it wins.

Nice depression for a few years I'd say but then it's easy to judge when it's not you it's happened to.

She wasn't told she wasnt allowed buy it FFS! She asked for a €4 ticket and got issued a €9 ticket - mistake was realised and she was reissued with a €4 ticket. The €9 ticket was never hers because she didn't pay for it. Tough.

Biggins · 06-04-2011 10:09AM

optogirl wrote: »

She wasn't told she wasnt allowed buy it FFS! She asked for a €4 ticket and got issued a €9 ticket - mistake was realised and she was reissued with a €4 ticket. The €9 ticket was never hers because she didn't pay for it. Tough.

I think you might be confusing the €9 ticket receiver here with the Tesco staff seller who wants to claim she wanted it after it was handed back.

Penn · 06-04-2011 10:17AM

optogirl wrote: »

She wasn't told she wasnt allowed buy it FFS! She asked for a €4 ticket and got issued a €9 ticket - mistake was realised and she was reissued with a €4 ticket. The €9 ticket was never hers because she didn't pay for it. Tough.

It is the Tesco employee who was told she wasn't allowed to buy it. She printed off the wrong ticket, and after giving the customer the right one, claims to have intended to buy the €9 ticket herself. But she didn't pay for it and didn't sign her name on the back. Then Tesco refused to allow her to buy the ticket, most likely after the ticket had already won (otherwise why would they refuse to let her pay for the ticket?).

The customer who the ticket was originally printed out for has nothing to do with it at this stage. I doubt she could even claim that those numbers would have been on her €4 ticket if it was done right because aren't the quick picks random? No guarantee those numbers would have been on her ticket.

languagenerd · 06-04-2011 10:18AM

I worked in a newsagent for a couple of years... Lotto tickets can't be cancelled once they're printed, unless you ring up Lotto HQ and try to explain etc. - and that's really only for huge mistakes, like if you'd accidentaly ticked the "8 draw" box and it came out at €100 or something. For a mistaken ticket under €10, we'd just leave it on the shelf or in the till and next time someone asked for a €4/€9 quick pick, we'd sell them that one. I assume that's why it was left in the till and it just happened that no-one else asked for a €9 ticket that day.

If she was really going to buy it, she wouldn't have put it in the till, she'd have put it aside somewhere. And why would she have been planning to buy a ticket after the draw anyway?!

soups05 · 06-04-2011 10:23AM

just to add my two cents, i used to work in a shop where lotto tickets were sold. on a saturday the evening staff would "accidentally" print out several extra tickets and if the numbers came up then the ticket would be bought.

it was a common scam at the time and it ended when the manager ordered that any unsold tickets would be paid for by whoever printed them. there was a sudden drop in the amount of wrong tickets printed

i'm not saying this is what happened in this case but as other have said she had plently of time to but the ticket but only wanted it after the draw when she knew it was a winner.

on a side note i currently work in a different shop which only has quick picks. our machine does not allow you to choose your own numbers. two years ago we had a customer who tried to sue us for not allowing him to play his numbers for the euromillions at 8.30 on a friday.

we pointed out that a) we only do quick picks and b) the euromilloins draw closes at 7.30. he still tried to sue but got nowhere lol. he claimed we ruined his life cos his numbers came up that night. funny enough he still shops there. idiot.

sbsquarepants · 06-04-2011 10:24AM

Plazaman wrote: »

I think now that Tesco have said they are giving the money to charity, how bad would she look if she did win her case and deny charities (and get the boot?). My advice to her : "Run Forrest, Run...."

I think the half million would help her get over the negative press fairly quickly!

Biggins wrote: »

Long story short - she's (a) chancing her arm and/or (b) has a genuine case but has a hell of an uphill legal battle to win.
...And although €500,000 is a lot of money, in the long run over a lifetime for what I assume might lead to her claim having an effect on any future career and reputation should crap come out in court about her too as the press might descend looking for a story angle (and they do!), her trying this claim might not be worth it in the long run...

A: Chancing her arm - final answer Chris:D

But - what in the name of god could come out in court, that a half a million, (ie 15 years average industrial wage - tax free mind, so might as well be 20 years at least) wouldn't compensate her for? What the fúck skeletons have you got in your closet?:eek:

Patrick2010 · 06-04-2011 10:57AM

To sum up, correct me if I'm wrong.
Girl issued a wrong ticket to a customer and put it in the till. Validated it after the draw was made and realised it was a winner. Then tried to buy the ticket the following day but was refused, presumably because you have to buy tickets before the draw is made. Then tries to claim the prize?, what a chancer!!

pablomakaveli · 06-04-2011 10:59AM

I think giving the money to charity is the best solution and its good to see tesco are going to do this. Maybe as a gesture to the woman they could donate the money in her name though i doubt that would matter to her.

Biggins · 06-04-2011 11:04AM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

...What the fúck skeletons have you got in your closet?:eek:

I'm taking the 'fifth' (pretending we have one that applies!

)
Me not want to be hauled up in front of an international war tribunal. I was only following orders!

BettePorter · 06-04-2011 11:07AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I used to work for SuperValu and although I was too young to issue lotto, I know that if you made a mistake, you had to buy the ticket... I mean, someone has to pay the Lotto for the ticket.

Exactly. I imagine she has a case if this is the procedure in her store. I mean if she has previously always been made pay for tickets issued by mistake both before or after the draw being made, then maybe this could explain her comment of 'not being allowed to pay for it'.

In which case i'd feel for her if it was just her manager saying 'now hang on a minute you're not having it' when if had it been a dud ticket they would have come looking for her monday morning for their nine euro !

But if its the case that mistaken tickets are just 'written off' as over rangs or the like then i think she is a chancer ! (i 'd still feel for how sick she'd feel knowing how close she came lol)

I guess the whole case could hinge on what the procedure in the past had been up until now.

ziedth · 06-04-2011 11:15AM

I know it's been touched on but the guy who didn't just take the €9 ticket must not be pleased. If I were him and I was doin the lotto with a jackpot that was like 130m (it was right?) for the sake of €5 I'd definately just say no problem and buy it.

Mr Trade In · 06-04-2011 11:25AM

ziedth wrote: »

I know it's been touched on but the guy who didn't just take the €9 ticket must not be pleased. If I were him and I was doin the lotto with a jackpot that was like 130m (it was right?) for the sake of €5 I'd definately just say no problem and buy it.

He made his choice,this has happened to me several times in different Tesco or Dunnes shops where by I ask for a €6 2 line quick pick for EuroMillions and the girl misshears and prints a €9 one instead,I always take the €9 ticket, most I have won is €25 though,he asked for a €4 ticket which would be 2 lines without the plus,reminds me of the poor basterd who let the Limerick women buy a ticket infront of him and lost €130 million.

crossmolinalad · 06-04-2011 11:42AM

If i was the store manager and the store is the owner of the ticket i should share the winnings with all of my employees
The girl had no rights of the ticket she didnt pay for it before the draw so it is the property of the shop

MastiffMrs · 06-04-2011 02:50PM

Is it not up to Lotto hq to make final decision? personally don't think she should sue Tesco,its just unlucky.she was always miserable looking in there anyway so can see why she thinks its fair to sue!

Sterling Archer · 06-04-2011 06:43PM

A store a friend of mine worked in had the procedure that any unpaid tickets "mistakes" were store property and your till was shown as being short by whatever amount the ticket was for, after the drawn you were given the chance to pay for the ticket and level up your till, they also said any winnings from "mistakes" would be given to charity... a real guilt trip if the ticket won and you tried to claim it. --Boss "so what your saying is you want to deny a charity money".....

Anyway - Chancer- is my opinion

Fighting Irish · 06-04-2011 06:54PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So a ticket was issued but was never paid for.... That's a toughie.

But if there's proof or witness that she tried to buy it, give her the money I say. The poor girl will never forget that she tried to buy the winning ticket and wasn't allowed.

And it's a ridiculous notion that a ticket wasn't allowed to be purchased.. Tesco should be sued by the Lotto.

Ye but you're taking her word for it

Fighting Irish · 06-04-2011 06:55PM

Deleted User wrote: »

(c) Was going to pay for it the next day but then wasn't allowed.

People going either blind or stupid in here. Someone told her she wasn't allowed and that's what will make or break the case.

What if the ticket was from fri night and she tried to pay for it saturday when it had actually won?

Fighting Irish · 06-04-2011 06:57PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Right well send me a link to an article that says the draw was that night because it's not mentioned in the OP. I'm going on what OP posted and you're going on a presumption that the draw was that night.

None of us are wrong until we know when the draw was.

Sure it had to have been fri night, think about it!

Feeded · 06-04-2011 07:04PM

Forget about the money for a second- did you see the people they interviewed in the shop??? -anyone else think they looked like they were extras from The League of Gentlemen?? ''local shop for local people!''

sashafierce · 06-04-2011 07:36PM

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LighterGuy · 06-04-2011 07:37PM

The way I see it:

- Stupid bad luck on the person who refused the 9euro ticket. What can they do, they never accepted/paid for the ticket.
- this checkout girl is chancing her arm saying she intended on paying it. we all know she wasnt going to.
- Tesco shouldnt be trusted that this money will goto a charity.

but ... hey, there has been alot of shady lotto cases over the last few years. Guys who were in lotto syndicates in jobs but not paying subs for up to a year previous but still going to court to claim a share and winning. So this girl might get something... and although it makes you think about the neck of her, is she really that wrong to try?

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