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Google Gold · 04-04-2011 03:15PM #1

Hi boards people.
I have a question. Do an-post allow you to post any dimension envelope that fits into the box. I'm finding it hard to judge if the stamp will cover its journey en route to tha other side of Dublin.
So its really all about the irish stamp system and box, not a great thread but more of a question maybe even a brain teaser.
Have a super-day all.

fakearms123 · 04-04-2011 03:17PM

Have ye tried to google it?

wolfmoon87 · 04-04-2011 03:19PM

http://www.anpost.ie/AnPost/WhatAreYouSending.htm?tools

There ya go.

Google Gold · 04-04-2011 03:20PM

fakearms123 wrote: »

Have ye tried to google it?

HA-HA .

seriously yes i have but noting, would yah believe it. I'll check that link now though thanks.

Hookah · 04-04-2011 03:24PM

I remember working as a postman once, looking for an address to deliver a Möbius strip, but I kept going round in circles.

smokedeels · 04-04-2011 03:29PM

Google Gold wrote: »

Have a super-day all.

I will, thanks!

Google Gold · 04-04-2011 03:39PM

Have it sorted now.I'll leave you with a good joke i think.

The fellow stormed into the postmaster's office in a fury. "I've been getting threatening letters in the mail for months and I want them stopped."

"Of course," said the postmaster. "Sending threatening letters through the mail is a federal offense. Do you know who's
sending them?"

"Yes," shouted the man. "It's those idiots down at the Internal Revenue Service."

_feedback_ · 04-04-2011 03:41PM

Google Gold wrote: »

Have it sorted now.I'll leave you with a good joke i think.

The fellow stormed into the postmaster's office in a fury. "I've been getting threatening letters in the mail for months and I want them stopped."

"Of course," said the postmaster. "Sending threatening letters through the mail is a federal offense. Do you know who's
sending them?"

"Yes," shouted the man. "It's those idiots down at the Internal Revenue Service."

Where's the good joke you mentioned?

WallyGUFC · 04-04-2011 05:42PM

Joke fail perhaps?

Donny5 · 04-04-2011 06:24PM

Hookah wrote: »

I remember working as a postman once, looking for an address to deliver a Möbius strip, but I kept going round in circles.

This is the real joke fail. A Möbius strip only has one side, so it would be trivial, easier even than a normal looped strip, to find the address, as there would be no reverse side to check.

ElizabethDante · 04-04-2011 06:46PM

I work as a PO clerk during the summer while not studying Fine Art (only as a way to get money not a life choice).

post costs depends on the size and weight of the envelope/ package

a standard small envelope within ireland is a 55c stamp

an a4 flat envelope is 95c stamp

the prices for thicker packages depend on weight and length and width

if it is a package rather then a flat envelope you are sending and want to guarrantee its survival through the irish post system i recommend you pop into your local PO office

if it is a small flat envelope (mothers day card) but you have put lets say a chocolate bar in it the 55c should be grand !

as long as its still under 100g

hope that was a bit of help !

im new here so im just testing the posting grounds!

stupidusername · 04-04-2011 06:56PM

what the frick? is boards owned by AnPost or something?

Hookah · 04-04-2011 07:08PM

Donny5 wrote: »

This is the real joke fail. A Möbius strip only has one side, so it would be trivial, easier even than a normal looped strip, to find the address, as there would be no reverse side to check.

I'm not sure which is nerdier.

Me for making up the joke in the first place, or you for picking it apart.

Would a Möbius band have sufficed?

sdanseo · 04-04-2011 07:11PM

stupidusername wrote: »

what the frick? is boards owned by AnPost or something?

No. Boards.ie owns An Post now. Didn't you hear?

Voodoomelon · 04-04-2011 07:15PM

Just because it can fit in a letterbox, doesn't mean the cost is 55c.

As mentioned, its dependant on the style of package and weight.

Use the An Post postage calculator, if it fits in a letterbox and is around 250g in a packet, x4 55c stamps will do the job.

sdanseo · 04-04-2011 07:40PM

That ^

Try putting a 30cm x 30cm x 5cm lead weight in bubble wrap and putting it in a letterbox with a stamp.

questionmark? · 04-04-2011 07:42PM

Google Gold wrote: »

Have it sorted now.I'll leave you with a good joke i think.

The fellow stormed into the postmaster's office in a fury. "I've been getting threatening letters in the mail for months and I want them stopped."

"Of course," said the postmaster. "Sending threatening letters through the mail is a federal offense. Do you know who's
sending them?"

"Yes," shouted the man. "It's those idiots down at the Internal Revenue Service."

Donny5 wrote: »

This is the real joke fail. A Möbius strip only has one side, so it would be trivial, easier even than a normal looped strip, to find the address, as there would be no reverse side to check.

ElizabethDante wrote: »

I work as a PO clerk during the summer while not studying Fine Art (only as a way to get money not a life choice).

post costs depends on the size and weight of the envelope/ package

a standard small envelope within ireland is a 55c stamp

an a4 flat envelope is 95c stamp

the prices for thicker packages depend on weight and length and width

if it is a package rather then a flat envelope you are sending and want to guarrantee its survival through the irish post system i recommend you pop into your local PO office

if it is a small flat envelope (mothers day card) but you have put lets say a chocolate bar in it the 55c should be grand ! as long as its still under 100g

hope that was a bit of help !

im new here so im just testing the posting grounds!

WTF is going on here

Thought I clicked into after hours not fecking www.badpostaljokesandanalysis.ie

Degag · 04-04-2011 07:46PM

Don't An Post have to deliver post even if you have the wrong stamp on or even no stamp at all?

Donny5 · 04-04-2011 08:16PM

Hookah wrote: »

I'm not sure which is nerdier.

Me for making up the joke in the first place, or you for picking it apart.

Would a Möbius band have sufficed?

Nope, a Möbius band is a Möbius strip, and it only has one side. If you hold it in your hand and run it through your fingers while looking at one side, you will observe the entirety of the surface area before you reach your starting point again, thus it would be one of very few practically obtainable paper shapes that would leave no reverse side to hide the address.

An easily fooled postman might go in circles looking for the address on an ordinary non-Möbius band, but such a scenario would not be possible with a Möbius band, thus undermining the basis of your joke.

Aishae · 04-04-2011 08:36PM

Degag wrote: »

Don't An Post have to deliver post even if you have the wrong stamp on or even no stamp at all?

if that happens they charge the recipient the extra postage so if you dont answer the door for your post youll get one of those 'collect you mail at X from 9-5 from the next working day' or thats how it used to be
not sure howd theyd bill san:pac:ty clause

Trevor451 · 04-04-2011 08:37PM

questionmark? wrote: »

WTF is going on here Thought I clicked into after hours not fecking www.badpostaljokesandanalysis.ie

Website is down for me

:pac:

Aishae · 04-04-2011 08:41PM

actually - come to think of it, i dont know if postmen are allowed to take cash so maybe you HAVE to collect any underpaid post at the sorting office or wherever the postie works out of.

Hookah · 05-04-2011 11:06AM

Donny5 wrote: »

An easily fooled postman might go in circles looking for the address on an ordinary non-Möbius band, but such a scenario would not be possible with a Möbius band, thus undermining the basis of your joke.

But if the address was on the opposite side of the band on which the imaginary postman is making his deliveries, would this cause sufficient confusion to have the postman travelling in circles on that side of the band on which the address doesn't exist?

Donny5 · 05-04-2011 12:23PM

Hookah wrote: »

But if the address was on the opposite side of the band on which the imaginary postman is making his deliveries, would this cause sufficient confusion to have the postman travelling in circles on that side of the band on which the address doesn't exist?

I think you're mixing up a Möbius strip with something else. A Möbius strip only has one side.

Hookah · 05-04-2011 12:24PM

Donny5 wrote: »

I think you're mixing up a Möbius strip with something else. A Möbius strip only has one side.

If I made one from a strip of paper, that strip has 2 sides.

It is a 3 dimensional shape.

Kimono-Girl · 05-04-2011 12:32PM

Aishae wrote: »

actually - come to think of it, i dont know if postmen are allowed to take cash so maybe you HAVE to collect any underpaid post at the sorting office or wherever the postie works out of.

i'd say they are sure at Christmas we give our postman money and he takes it!

most of them are trustworthy and i speak for our postman when i say he'd be nice enough to deliver the post anyway.

Donny5 · 05-04-2011 12:35PM

Hookah wrote: »

If I made one from a strip of paper, that strip has 2 sides.

It is a 3 dimensional shape.

No, you are wrong. A Möbius strip has only one side and that is one of its defining features. If you make a Möbius strip from a length of paper, then try to draw a line down the middle of one side, this will become readily apparent.

Hookah · 05-04-2011 12:42PM

Donny5 wrote: »

No, you are wrong. A Möbius strip has only one side and that is one of its defining features. If you make a Möbius strip from a length of paper, then try to draw a line down the middle of one side, this will become readily apparent.

Ok.

What if the address was on the edge of the strip?

The second side, so to speak?

Donny5 · 05-04-2011 12:53PM

Hookah wrote: »

Really?

Yes.

Hookah wrote: »

How many sides on a strip of paper?

Two.

Hookah wrote: »

If I twist it into a mobius strip, how many sides does it have now?

One.

If you don't believe me, go ask your friendly local topologist or Google it. I suggest you make a Möbius strip and experiment with it.

Hookah wrote: »

Ok.

What if the address was on the edge of the strip?

The second side, so to speak?

Well, if you're talking about looking for the written address on an envelope shaped as a Möbius strip, then the boundary edge would be too narrow, as it would be the same width as the boundary edge of an ordinary envelope. If you mean that the postman's delivery route was on a hypothetical neighbourhood shaped as a Möbius strip, and this hypothetical neighbourhood's boundary edge also contained addresses where the postman may have to deliver, then the postman would have to walk both seperately, once around the surface and once around the single boundary edge. This would be compared to a postman working on a similar hypothetical neighbourhood that was an ordinary non-Möbius strip, who would have two surfaces and two boundary edges to walk.

In either case, there is no suitable premise for the original joke.

NothingMan · 05-04-2011 01:01PM

I'm gonna go postal reading this thread.

Hookah · 05-04-2011 01:28PM

Donny5 wrote: »

Well, if you're talking about looking for the written address on an envelope shaped as a Möbius strip, then the boundary edge would be too narrow, as it would be the same width as the boundary edge of an ordinary envelope. If you mean that the postman's delivery route was on a hypothetical neighbourhood shaped as a Möbius strip, and this hypothetical neighbourhood's boundary edge also contained addresses where the postman may have to deliver, then the postman would have to walk both seperately, once around the surface and once around the single boundary edge. This would be compared to a postman working on a similar hypothetical neighbourhood that was an ordinary non-Möbius strip, who would have two surfaces and two boundary edges to walk.

In either case, there is no suitable premise for the original joke.

But say I'm a hypothetical postman on an actual mobius strip, and am having difficulty tracking down said address, perhaps due to the dimensions of said mobius neighbourhood, is there any likelyhood of my looping around around said neighbourhood in my quest to deliver my post?

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