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Seanchai · 03-04-2011 05:18PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Why?

PS message to Seanchai, High Street has become very popular here in Ireland, you will hear High Street used a lot even on RTE!

You'll hear it used by British representatives of British stores in Ireland, or even by British representatives of US, Swedish, Icelandic etc stores in Ireland.

The British "high street" is dominated by non-British stores, as much as the "Little Englander" Union Jack-wavers with their delusions of English economic independence would claim otherwise.

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CommuterIE · 03-04-2011 05:20PM

To me the Union Jack is a non-entity, an outdated piece of crap that symbolises those no longer in their once tyrannical "empire" It is an insult in my opinion to fly such a flag in the Irish Republic and in my view quite rightly raise the blood pressure

LordSutch · 03-04-2011 05:23PM

Seanchai wrote: »

You'll hear it used by British representatives of British stores in Ireland, or even by British representatives of US, Swedish, Icelandic etc stores in Ireland.

The British "high street" is dominated by non-British stores, as much as the "Little Englander" Union Jack-wavers with their delusions of English economic independence would claim otherwise.

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Heard it used several times on 'Off the Rails' clothes programme on RTE the other night, I also hear Pat Kenny on RTE Radio saying High Street.

Its a common saying here in Ireland.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 03-04-2011 05:27PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Heard it used several times on 'Off the Rails' clothes programme on RTE the other night, I also hear Pat Kenny on RTE Radio saying High Street.

Its a common saying here in Ireland.

It's all grammatical

"high street" - area in a town where most of the shopping takes place
"High Street" - name of a street, most likely to be the central one in a town or city.

LondonIrish90 · 03-04-2011 05:34PM

It would be a very courteous and modern thing to do. During state visits to Britain, Union flags fly alongside the flag of whichever nation's head of state is visiting all along the Mall, like here

LondonIrish90 · 03-04-2011 05:36PM

CommuterIE wrote: »

To me the Union Jack is a non-entity, an outdated piece of crap that symbolises those no longer in their once tyrannical "empire" It is an insult in my opinion to fly such a flag in the Irish Republic and in my view quite rightly raise the blood pressure

Outdated? It symbolises the union of nations, which still exists, and will continue to exist for a long time.

KeithAFC · 03-04-2011 05:38PM

CommuterIE wrote: »

To me the Union Jack is a non-entity, an outdated piece of crap that symbolises those no longer in their once tyrannical "empire" It is an insult in my opinion to fly such a flag in the Irish Republic and in my view quite rightly raise the blood pressure

Do you know what the Union flag represents and how many nations are on it?

Seanchai · 03-04-2011 05:40PM

LondonIrish90 wrote: »

Outdated? It symbolises the union of nations, which still exists, and will continue to exist for a long time.

Whatever you're having yourself, Nostradamus. It's only on the go in its current form since 1801, which is a mere blip in the history of human settlement in Ireland. Less of the brainwashing. Open you mind.

Seanchai · 03-04-2011 05:41PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Do you know what the Union flag represents and how many nations are on it?

I suppose it represents three, and for the time being a small bit of another.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 03-04-2011 05:43PM

CommuterIE wrote: »

To me the Union Jack is a non-entity, an outdated piece of crap that symbolises those no longer in their once tyrannical "empire" It is an insult in my opinion to fly such a flag in the Irish Republic and in my view quite rightly raise the blood pressure

Would you have issues with US flags when Obama visits? Or German flags of Angela Merkel visits?

Personally, one flag would do it at an offical loctaion, as it should do it for any visiting head of state. There are union jacks outside hotels (as far as I know) alongside other national flags. No need decking out entire streets with them.

CommuterIE · 03-04-2011 05:43PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Do you know what the Union flag represents and how many nations are on it?

Repressive Colonial Regime in many countries... most have rid themselves of such a connection... the Aussies are next in line... I'd give that flag another 50 years tops... the reunification of Ireland will probably at least lead to some kind of flag change

Seanchai · 03-04-2011 05:43PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Heard it used several times on 'Off the Rails' clothes programme on RTE the other night, I also hear Pat Kenny on RTE Radio saying High Street.

Its a common saying here in Ireland.

You may have heard it used as a proper noun - e.g. "High Street" in Dublin near Christchurch Cathedral - but as a common noun - i.e. "high street" - it is not used to describe retail shops in Ireland (except by British people).

My name is URL · 03-04-2011 05:44PM

Who cares.. it's only a coloured piece of fabric and nothing more. Those who see waving it as a sign of our maturity are just as small minded as those who see it as a symbol of what they are opposed to.

CommuterIE · 03-04-2011 05:45PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Would you have issues with US flags when Obama visits? Or German flags of Angela Merkel visits?

Personally, one flag would do it at an offical loctaion, as it should do it for any visiting head of state. There are union jacks outside hotels (as far as I know) alongside other national flags. No need decking out entire streets with them.

None at all, the USA shares with Ireland it's independence from colonial influence... France, why would I hate their flag, or anyone elses?? If its a flag that represented tyranny upon the Irish people in the past, then I don't want to see it... low and behold, The Union Jack

KeithAFC · 03-04-2011 05:45PM

CommuterIE wrote: »

Repressive Colonial Regime in many countries... most have rid themselves of such a connection... the Aussies are next in line... I'd give that flag another 50 years tops... the reunification of Ireland will probably at least lead to some kind of flag change

Oh dear. I don't think you really believe in represents oppression when the UK is one of the most free and tolerant nations in the world.

LondonIrish90 · 03-04-2011 05:46PM

CommuterIE wrote: »

Repressive Colonial Regime in many countries... most have rid themselves of such a connection... the Aussies are next in line... I'd give that flag another 50 years tops... the reunification of Ireland will probably at least lead to some kind of flag change

The majority of nations which were a part of the empire are now a part of the commonwealth of nations. Not quite cutting the ties completely, as you would like to think. In fact, membership has even been sought by countries which were never a part of the empire in recent years.

Dermighty · 03-04-2011 05:47PM

They'll surely close off some streets and all that crap in Cork.

I like her visiting Dublin, because i can stay in Cork and not give a ****. Unfortunately now that she's coming here (which has no purpose really) we have to accommodate her.

I don't have a problem with the queen, I just think her visit is pointless.

Seanchai · 03-04-2011 05:47PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Oh dear. I don't think you really believe in represents oppression when the UK is one of the most free and tolerant nations in the world.

Er, em, is this the same UK which expressly forbids a Catholic from becoming Head of State? In 2011? Yes, indeed it is.

Institutional sectarianism and intolerance: 1

Free and tolerant nations: 0

CommuterIE · 03-04-2011 05:47PM

Also, I have never once seen a Union Jack flag flying outside of any building in Dublin... on my walk abouts, I am in town a lot, so stop with the crap

CommuterIE · 03-04-2011 05:49PM

LondonIrish90 wrote: »

The majority of nations which were a part of the empire are now a part of the commonwealth of nations. Not quite cutting the ties completely, as you would like to think. In fact, membership has even been sought by countries which were never a part of the empire in recent years.

What countries? Bet they are really poor African ones!

Seanchai · 03-04-2011 05:50PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Who cares.. it's only a coloured piece of fabric and nothing more.

As is the Swastika.

LondonIrish90 · 03-04-2011 05:50PM

Seanchai wrote: »

Er, em, is this the same UK which expressly forbids a Catholic from becoming Head of State? In 2011? Yes, indeed it is.

Institutional sectarianism and intolerance: 1

Free and tolerant nations: 0

Thats not really the same as oppression is it?

Catholics are free to practice their religion without fear of reprisal all over Britain. In fact, there are more British catholics than Irish catholics.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 03-04-2011 05:51PM

CommuterIE wrote: »

None at all, the USA shares with Ireland it's independence from colonial influence... France, why would I hate their flag, or anyone elses?? If its a flag that represented tyranny upon the Irish people in the past, then I don't want to see it... low and behold, The Union Jack

The US is not exactly innocent when it comes to culturally influening other countries (Ireland included), and the Germans and French most vertainly have colonies around the world (more so the French).

So. It's okay to have flags that represent colonialism or not?

KeithAFC wrote: »

Oh dear. I don't think you really believe in represents oppression when the UK is one of the most free and tolerant nations in the world.

Have to disagree with you here. It's probably as close to a police state is your going to get in the Western world (bar Texas).

CommuterIE · 03-04-2011 05:52PM

LondonIrish90 wrote: »

Thats not really the same as oppression is it?

Catholics are free to practice their religion without fear of reprisal all over Britain. In fact, there are more British catholics than Irish catholics.

Awful pity they couldn't do it in the past :rolleyes:

KeithAFC · 03-04-2011 05:53PM

Seanchai wrote: »

Er, em, is this the same UK which expressly forbids a Catholic from becoming Head of State? In 2011? Yes, indeed it is.

Institutional sectarianism and intolerance: 1

Free and tolerant nations: 0

What? So you don't think the UK is tolerant and free?

CommuterIE · 03-04-2011 05:53PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

The US is not exactly innocent when it comes to culturally influening other countries (Ireland included), and the Germans and French most vertainly have colonies around the world (more so the French).

Out of context post is out of context

LondonIrish90 · 03-04-2011 05:54PM

CommuterIE wrote: »

Awful pity they couldn't do it in the past :rolleyes:

Sorry, I don't think that was the point you were making, at all. You, or your like minded friend (I can't remember which) were talking about the United Kingdom today.

If you wish to talk about that, maybe a thread in the history forum would be more appropriate?

Seanchai · 03-04-2011 05:54PM

LondonIrish90 wrote: »

Thats not really the same as oppression is it?

It would most certainly be if it were a a Protestant who were forbidden from becoming Head of State in Ireland. For apologists for the British monarchy, the rules change suddenly when it is British society which is the focus for accusations of sectarianism and intolerance.

Before you continue: you're trying to defend the indefensible when you try to defend this British state ban on Catholics in 2011.

KeithAFC · 03-04-2011 05:55PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

The US is not exactly innocent when it comes to culturally influening other countries (Ireland included), and the Germans and French most vertainly have colonies around the world (more so the French).

So. It's okay to have flags that represent colonialism or not?

Have to disagree with you here. It's probably as close to a police state is your going to get in the Western world (bar Texas).

How? People in this country are always having a go at our justice system and saying its too free and tolerant. Of course its free.

CommuterIE · 03-04-2011 05:56PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

What? So you don't think the UK is tolerant and free?

Not in the North, shower of animals the minority of the Prodestants were, absolute disgrace to the human race... just like the hicks lynching Black people in the States... for shame!

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