queens visit

jakdelad

should we hang out union jack flags in oconnell st
when her maj comes
and should the people cheer and wave union flags

what is the protocol???

chughes

Well, it's standard practice for us jackeens

PatsytheNazi

Didn't see one person witha union jack when Prince Charles was here. To be honest, I wouldn't say it would be a wise or safe thing to do, Love Ulster riot etc

And I cann't see them selling them on Moore Street calling out " Get you little union jacks here, only two for a fiver " I'd rather she didn't come, but the sooner she comes and goes and it's forgot about the better.

murphaph

PatsytheNazi wrote: »

Didn't see one person witha union jack when Prince Charles was here. To be honest, I wouldn't say it would be a wise or safe thing to do, Love Ulster riot etc

You're probably right about that. Says a lot about some of the mongoloid inhabitants of the city that a person couldn't wave a union flag if they so desired without getting abused for it. These same inbred fools should take a look around Dublin 365 days a year-there are dozens of union flags flying outside hotels precisely to welcome to the many BRITISH visitors these hotels receive daily. It seems odd that some muppets would make no issue of PERMANENTLY flying full-on union flags attached to flagpoles all over the city but would make an issue of some kids waving miniature paper flags at the Queen. Go figure.

These goons will not be happy until they've destroyed our (largely fake) image as a hospitable nation and scared off a good chunk of potential British visitors, thereby sticking even more businesses into bankruptcy and even more people on the dole.

copacetic

murphaph wrote: »

take a look around Dublin 365 days a year-there are dozens of union flags flying outside hotels precisely to welcome to the many BRITISH visitors these hotels receive daily.

Could you point out a few of these 'dozens' of hotels? Don't believe I've ever seen this.

PatsytheNazi

murphaph wrote: »

You're probably right about that. Says a lot about some of the mongoloid inhabitants of the city that a person couldn't wave a union flag if they so desired without getting abused for it. These same inbred fools should take a look around Dublin 365 days a year-there are dozens of union flags flying outside hotels precisely to welcome to the many BRITISH visitors these hotels receive daily. It seems odd that some muppets would make no issue of PERMANENTLY flying full-on union flags attached to flagpoles all over the city but would make an issue of some kids waving miniature paper flags at the Queen. Go figure.

These goons will not be happy until they've destroyed our (largely fake) image as a hospitable nation and scared off a good chunk of potential British visitors, thereby sticking even more businesses into bankruptcy and even more people on the dole.

Well in fairness, I cann't see a bunch of guys walking up to the say, the Shelbourne carrying a ladder to pull down the union jack - or butcher's apron as they would probably refer to it.

Nevertheless, I can see a person's point in not wanting to see this emblem of so much bloodshed in Ireland and people will have to take that into consideration. After all, wasn't there also a minor riot when the yuppies in Trinity tried to fly it back in the 1940's ?

mike65

A Union Flag flies on the Quay here in Waterford, but then we are a Home Rule type of town!














I should point out the flags of France, Netherlands, Germany, Spain, Japan, Canada, USA and a few others also fly.

Boulevardier

Yes, but if I am not mistaken, one of the lads pulling down the Trinity flag was a young Charles Haughey. If he represents Ireland, I say bring back the Brits!

copacetic

mike65 wrote: »

A Union Flag flies on the Quay here in Waterford, but then we are a Home Rule type of town!














I should point out the flags of France, Netherlands, Germany, Spain, Japan, Canada, USA and a few others also fly.

Have seen the odd flag within a bunch, expecially on certain holiday weekends. However english flag is much more common and the hyperbole of dozens of hotels flying the union flag is ludicrous.

mike65

Example flag.

murphaph

PatsytheNazi wrote: »

Well in fairness, I cann't see a bunch of guys walking up to the say, the Shelbourne carrying a ladder to pull down the union jack - or butcher's apron as they would probably refer to it.

They or you?

PatsytheNazi wrote: »

Nevertheless, I can see a person's point in not wanting to see this emblem of so much bloodshed in Ireland and people will have to take that into consideration.

My bold. Sounds almost like a threat that. I don't expect too many people to be out with union flags but if a few people do choose to do that then they should be left in peace by these clowns, short of a few brain cells as most of them are.

PatsytheNazi wrote: »

After all, wasn't there also a minor riot when the yuppies in Trinity tried to fly it back in the 1940's ?

Well, you said it, the NINETEEN FORTIES! Time to build a bridge and get over it.

jakdelad

murphaph wrote: »

You're probably right about that. Says a lot about some of the mongoloid inhabitants of the city that a person couldn't wave a union flag if they so desired without getting abused for it. These same inbred fools should take a look around Dublin 365 days a year-there are dozens of union flags flying outside hotels precisely to welcome to the many BRITISH visitors these hotels receive daily. It seems odd that some muppets would make no issue of PERMANENTLY flying full-on union flags attached to flagpoles all over the city but would make an issue of some kids waving miniature paper flags at the Queen. Go figure.

These goons will not be happy until they've destroyed our (largely fake) image as a hospitable nation and scared off a good chunk of potential British visitors, thereby sticking even more businesses into bankruptcy and even more people on the dole.

jasus a bit harsh dont you think
should we sing a verse of god save the queen as well???
when she passes and say hello maam

murphaph

jakdelad wrote: »

jasus a bit harsh dont you think
should we sing a verse of god save the queen as well???
when she passes and say hello maam

I wouldn't encourage or discourage anyone from doing as they please within the law. We live in a FREE country. If someone wants to wave their little union flag, sing God Save the Queen and even get down on their hands and knees and kiss her arse, they should be allowed to do so without fear of being abused, either verbally or physically, by inbred tracksuit wearing twats who have no problem shouting for "their" (British) football team but would go ape at the thoughts if some kids waving a paper union flag for the head of state of our nearest neighbour and important trading partner.

Madam

I wonder did this guy say 'hello ma'am:)

http://tinyurl.com/3vczmdp

later12

jakdelad wrote: »

jasus a bit harsh dont you think
should we sing a verse of god save the queen as well???
when she passes and say hello maam

No we should show ourselves to be infantile begrudgers of her visit, clinging to the history of an age in which neither she, nor we, have lived in. And we should instead demonstrate the length to which we are obsessed with our own independence despite the fact that, since her grandfather signed the place over to us, we have since signed an agreement limiting our own real autonomy through the EU and the IMF.

Really, she's just some daft old bint coming to the end of her life and who has been invited to pass a few days at her neighbours. If she turned down the invitation she would have been accused of haughty arrogance despite the fact that she must have mixed feelings about the country where her first cousin and friend Mountbatten was murdered with his friends.

Hopefully we can persuade her of our adulthood, although going by some of the threads on here, I wouldn't count on that.

Corsendonk

jakdelad wrote: »

should we hang out union jack flags in oconnell st
when her maj comes
and should the people cheer and wave union flags

what is the protocol???

Well most of the Irish High street seems to be UK so how can we object if they put up bunting for their Queen, not to forget all the UK citizens that live and work in Ireland that might want to see Liz.

RandomName2

jakdelad wrote: »

should we hang out union jack flags in oconnell st
when her maj comes
and should the people cheer and wave union flags

what is the protocol???

Presumably when you say 'union flags' you mean EU flags. We are both, after all, part of that union.

If you are talking about union jack flags well, we aren't part of that union, are we?

Unless you think it is a nice idea to wave the flags of a visitor's country. Would you cheer and wave the French tri-colour if Sarcozy visited... or would you wave the union flag?

DECISIONS DECISIONS!

alan85

I wonder what the protocol is when she takes a dump... Say it's somewhere in the middle of a day's events does some trusted knight have to guard the jacks until the smell has dissipated so nobody can smell the queen's s*it?

Bono, Wogie or O'Reilly could take it turns perhaps...

Just wonder what the practicalities are... hhhhmmm...

chughes

alan85 wrote: »

I wonder what the protocol is when she takes a dump...

She'll just use a union jacks somewhere.

loldog

I'd have thought all the Coronation Street and Man Utd fans would have no objection to waving the Union Flag.

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alan85

loldog wrote: »

I'd have thought all the Coronation Street and Man Utd fans would have no objection to waving the Union Flag.

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What a s**t arguement... Just because you have an interest in the culture of somewhere does not make you supportive of their political systems, their foreign policy or brutal crimes. And it is perfectly plausable that you could like their culture and still be sensitive to endorsing their political symbolism (flag, anthem, poppy) given what has occured on this island.

RandomName2

alan85 wrote: »

What a s**t arguement... Just because you have an interest in the culture of somewhere does not make you supportive of their political systems, their foreign policy or brutal crimes. And it is perfectly plausable that you could like their culture and still be sensitive to endorsing their political symbolism (flag, anthem, poppy) given what has occured on this island.

what a **** argument. If you are going to be arbitrarily antagonistic towards a people you might as well lump in their culture and political system (what, you mean parliamentary democracy? ). Surely that would be a far more potent and accurate reflection of their people than a powerless figurehead who acts as a chief bottle washer in the political process at home and as foreign dignitary abroad.

Even the old Catholic Church and long dead 3rd Sinn Feiners would see it as more expedient to boycott the sport of football (foreign games) than the visit of the head of another nation. Mind you, the provisional and real IRA would typically not mouth platitudes of opposition, but would instead attempt to cut to the chase through murder; but they hardly needed much excuse for that. :pac:

gurramok

RandomName2 wrote: »

what a **** argument. If you are going to be arbitrarily antagonistic towards a people you might as well lump in their culture and political system (what, you mean parliamentary democracy? ). Surely that would be a far more potent and accurate reflection of their people than a powerless figurehead who acts as a chief bottle washer in the political process at home and as foreign dignitary abroad.
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Its an excellent argument. Football/music/Corrie/fish & chips etc represent British culture, the British people themselves. The British Queen is a political representative of the British state, big difference.

jakdelad

gurramok wrote: »

Its an excellent argument. Football/music/Corrie/fish & chips etc represent British culture, the British people themselves. The British Queen is a political representative of the British state, big difference.

you mean vindaloo curry, sun readers, lager louts
kebabs, page 3 tit girls
thieving scousers , true english culture
the queen represents a nation of thieves
STOLEN FROM INDIA the koh i noor diamond
STOLEN FROM GREECE the elgin marbles
STOLEN FROM EGYPT tuthankhamun treasures
go to the british national museum and see treasured artifacts stolen from all over the world
the uk govt to this day refuse to hand back these treasures to their rightfull countries of origin

LordSutch

jakdelad wrote: »

should we hang out union jack flags in oconnell st
when her maj comes
and should the people cheer and wave union flags

what is the protocol???

Yes,
I ordered a box of ten hand waver U-Jcks for a tenner from up north, (for family & friends), we hope to be at thr front of the crowd possibly in O'Connell St, waving them as her Masj passes, our kids expecially will enjoy the day/spectacle.

Seanchai

LordSutch wrote: »

Yes,
I ordered a box of ten hand waver U-Jcks for a tenner from up north, (for family & friends), we hope to be at thr front of the crowd possibly in O'Connell St, waving them as her Masj passes, our kids expecially will enjoy the day.

That really remains to be seen.

Seanchai

Corsendonk wrote: »

Well most of the Irish High street seems to be UK so how can we object if they put up bunting for their Queen, not to forget all the UK citizens that live and work in Ireland that might want to see Liz.

Let me guess: you're British?

LordSutch

Seanchai wrote: »

That really remains to be seen.

Why?

PS message to Seanchai, High Street has become very popular here in Ireland, you will hear High Street used a lot even on RTE!

Wolfe Tone

LordSutch wrote: »

Yes,
I ordered a box of ten hand waver U-Jcks for a tenner from up north, (for family & friends), we hope to be at thr front of the crowd possibly in O'Connell St, waving them as her Masj passes, our kids expecially will enjoy the day/spectacle.

Are you serious?

I wouldnt bring kids into town tbh... Too dangerous.

Seanchai

later10 wrote: »

Hopefully we can persuade her of our adulthood

How embarrassing for you that you want Irish people to "persuade her of our adulthood" - as if 1) the Irish people should feel inferior, and 2) that the British queen would be important enough to put extra effort into impressing.


This, after all, is a woman who holds a position which is predicated upon her being a Protestant in 2011 - and which has excluded her forefathers for even marrying a Catholic. And that's mature. :rolleyes:

jakdelad

suppose badboy fireworks and laser pens would be out of the question

Seanchai

LordSutch wrote: »

Why?

PS message to Seanchai, High Street has become very popular here in Ireland, you will hear High Street used a lot even on RTE!

You'll hear it used by British representatives of British stores in Ireland, or even by British representatives of US, Swedish, Icelandic etc stores in Ireland.

The British "high street" is dominated by non-British stores, as much as the "Little Englander" Union Jack-wavers with their delusions of English economic independence would claim otherwise.

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CommuterIE

To me the Union Jack is a non-entity, an outdated piece of crap that symbolises those no longer in their once tyrannical "empire" It is an insult in my opinion to fly such a flag in the Irish Republic and in my view quite rightly raise the blood pressure

LordSutch

Seanchai wrote: »

You'll hear it used by British representatives of British stores in Ireland, or even by British representatives of US, Swedish, Icelandic etc stores in Ireland.

The British "high street" is dominated by non-British stores, as much as the "Little Englander" Union Jack-wavers with their delusions of English economic independence would claim otherwise.

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Heard it used several times on 'Off the Rails' clothes programme on RTE the other night, I also hear Pat Kenny on RTE Radio saying High Street.

Its a common saying here in Ireland.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

LordSutch wrote: »

Heard it used several times on 'Off the Rails' clothes programme on RTE the other night, I also hear Pat Kenny on RTE Radio saying High Street.

Its a common saying here in Ireland.

It's all grammatical

"high street" - area in a town where most of the shopping takes place
"High Street" - name of a street, most likely to be the central one in a town or city.

LondonIrish90

It would be a very courteous and modern thing to do. During state visits to Britain, Union flags fly alongside the flag of whichever nation's head of state is visiting all along the Mall, like here

LondonIrish90

CommuterIE wrote: »

To me the Union Jack is a non-entity, an outdated piece of crap that symbolises those no longer in their once tyrannical "empire" It is an insult in my opinion to fly such a flag in the Irish Republic and in my view quite rightly raise the blood pressure

Outdated? It symbolises the union of nations, which still exists, and will continue to exist for a long time.

KeithAFC

CommuterIE wrote: »

To me the Union Jack is a non-entity, an outdated piece of crap that symbolises those no longer in their once tyrannical "empire" It is an insult in my opinion to fly such a flag in the Irish Republic and in my view quite rightly raise the blood pressure

Do you know what the Union flag represents and how many nations are on it?

Seanchai

LondonIrish90 wrote: »

Outdated? It symbolises the union of nations, which still exists, and will continue to exist for a long time.

Whatever you're having yourself, Nostradamus. It's only on the go in its current form since 1801, which is a mere blip in the history of human settlement in Ireland. Less of the brainwashing. Open you mind.

Seanchai

KeithAFC wrote: »

Do you know what the Union flag represents and how many nations are on it?

I suppose it represents three, and for the time being a small bit of another.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

CommuterIE wrote: »

To me the Union Jack is a non-entity, an outdated piece of crap that symbolises those no longer in their once tyrannical "empire" It is an insult in my opinion to fly such a flag in the Irish Republic and in my view quite rightly raise the blood pressure

Would you have issues with US flags when Obama visits? Or German flags of Angela Merkel visits?

Personally, one flag would do it at an offical loctaion, as it should do it for any visiting head of state. There are union jacks outside hotels (as far as I know) alongside other national flags. No need decking out entire streets with them.

CommuterIE

KeithAFC wrote: »

Do you know what the Union flag represents and how many nations are on it?

Repressive Colonial Regime in many countries... most have rid themselves of such a connection... the Aussies are next in line... I'd give that flag another 50 years tops... the reunification of Ireland will probably at least lead to some kind of flag change

Seanchai

LordSutch wrote: »

Heard it used several times on 'Off the Rails' clothes programme on RTE the other night, I also hear Pat Kenny on RTE Radio saying High Street.

Its a common saying here in Ireland.

You may have heard it used as a proper noun - e.g. "High Street" in Dublin near Christchurch Cathedral - but as a common noun - i.e. "high street" - it is not used to describe retail shops in Ireland (except by British people).

My name is URL

Who cares.. it's only a coloured piece of fabric and nothing more. Those who see waving it as a sign of our maturity are just as small minded as those who see it as a symbol of what they are opposed to.

CommuterIE

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Would you have issues with US flags when Obama visits? Or German flags of Angela Merkel visits?

Personally, one flag would do it at an offical loctaion, as it should do it for any visiting head of state. There are union jacks outside hotels (as far as I know) alongside other national flags. No need decking out entire streets with them.

None at all, the USA shares with Ireland it's independence from colonial influence... France, why would I hate their flag, or anyone elses?? If its a flag that represented tyranny upon the Irish people in the past, then I don't want to see it... low and behold, The Union Jack

KeithAFC

CommuterIE wrote: »

Repressive Colonial Regime in many countries... most have rid themselves of such a connection... the Aussies are next in line... I'd give that flag another 50 years tops... the reunification of Ireland will probably at least lead to some kind of flag change

Oh dear. I don't think you really believe in represents oppression when the UK is one of the most free and tolerant nations in the world.

LondonIrish90

CommuterIE wrote: »

Repressive Colonial Regime in many countries... most have rid themselves of such a connection... the Aussies are next in line... I'd give that flag another 50 years tops... the reunification of Ireland will probably at least lead to some kind of flag change

The majority of nations which were a part of the empire are now a part of the commonwealth of nations. Not quite cutting the ties completely, as you would like to think. In fact, membership has even been sought by countries which were never a part of the empire in recent years.

Dermighty

They'll surely close off some streets and all that crap in Cork.

I like her visiting Dublin, because i can stay in Cork and not give a ****. Unfortunately now that she's coming here (which has no purpose really) we have to accommodate her.

I don't have a problem with the queen, I just think her visit is pointless.

Seanchai

KeithAFC wrote: »

Oh dear. I don't think you really believe in represents oppression when the UK is one of the most free and tolerant nations in the world.

Er, em, is this the same UK which expressly forbids a Catholic from becoming Head of State? In 2011? Yes, indeed it is.

Institutional sectarianism and intolerance: 1

Free and tolerant nations: 0

CommuterIE

Also, I have never once seen a Union Jack flag flying outside of any building in Dublin... on my walk abouts, I am in town a lot, so stop with the crap

CommuterIE

LondonIrish90 wrote: »

The majority of nations which were a part of the empire are now a part of the commonwealth of nations. Not quite cutting the ties completely, as you would like to think. In fact, membership has even been sought by countries which were never a part of the empire in recent years.

What countries? Bet they are really poor African ones!