queens visit

jakdelad · 02-04-2011 02:52PM #1

should we hang out union jack flags in oconnell st
when her maj comes
and should the people cheer and wave union flags

what is the protocol???

chughes · 02-04-2011 02:54PM

Well, it's standard practice for us jackeens

PatsytheNazi · 02-04-2011 03:11PM

Didn't see one person witha union jack when Prince Charles was here. To be honest, I wouldn't say it would be a wise or safe thing to do, Love Ulster riot etc

And I cann't see them selling them on Moore Street calling out " Get you little union jacks here, only two for a fiver "

I'd rather she didn't come, but the sooner she comes and goes and it's forgot about the better.

murphaph · 02-04-2011 03:39PM

PatsytheNazi wrote: »

Didn't see one person witha union jack when Prince Charles was here. To be honest, I wouldn't say it would be a wise or safe thing to do, Love Ulster riot etc

You're probably right about that. Says a lot about some of the mongoloid inhabitants of the city that a person couldn't wave a union flag if they so desired without getting abused for it. These same inbred fools should take a look around Dublin 365 days a year-there are dozens of union flags flying outside hotels precisely to welcome to the many BRITISH visitors these hotels receive daily. It seems odd that some muppets would make no issue of PERMANENTLY flying full-on union flags attached to flagpoles all over the city but would make an issue of some kids waving miniature paper flags at the Queen. Go figure.

These goons will not be happy until they've destroyed our (largely fake) image as a hospitable nation and scared off a good chunk of potential British visitors, thereby sticking even more businesses into bankruptcy and even more people on the dole.

copacetic · 02-04-2011 03:43PM

murphaph wrote: »

take a look around Dublin 365 days a year-there are dozens of union flags flying outside hotels precisely to welcome to the many BRITISH visitors these hotels receive daily.

Could you point out a few of these 'dozens' of hotels? Don't believe I've ever seen this.

PatsytheNazi · 02-04-2011 03:45PM

murphaph wrote: »

You're probably right about that. Says a lot about some of the mongoloid inhabitants of the city that a person couldn't wave a union flag if they so desired without getting abused for it. These same inbred fools should take a look around Dublin 365 days a year-there are dozens of union flags flying outside hotels precisely to welcome to the many BRITISH visitors these hotels receive daily. It seems odd that some muppets would make no issue of PERMANENTLY flying full-on union flags attached to flagpoles all over the city but would make an issue of some kids waving miniature paper flags at the Queen. Go figure.

These goons will not be happy until they've destroyed our (largely fake) image as a hospitable nation and scared off a good chunk of potential British visitors, thereby sticking even more businesses into bankruptcy and even more people on the dole.

Well in fairness, I cann't see a bunch of guys walking up to the say, the Shelbourne carrying a ladder to pull down the union jack - or butcher's apron as they would probably refer to it.

Nevertheless, I can see a person's point in not wanting to see this emblem of so much bloodshed in Ireland and people will have to take that into consideration. After all, wasn't there also a minor riot when the yuppies in Trinity tried to fly it back in the 1940's ?

mike65 · 02-04-2011 03:46PM

A Union Flag flies on the Quay here in Waterford, but then we are a Home Rule type of town!

I should point out the flags of France, Netherlands, Germany, Spain, Japan, Canada, USA and a few others also fly.

Boulevardier · 02-04-2011 03:47PM

Yes, but if I am not mistaken, one of the lads pulling down the Trinity flag was a young Charles Haughey. If he represents Ireland, I say bring back the Brits!

copacetic · 02-04-2011 03:50PM

mike65 wrote: »

A Union Flag flies on the Quay here in Waterford, but then we are a Home Rule type of town!

I should point out the flags of France, Netherlands, Germany, Spain, Japan, Canada, USA and a few others also fly.

Have seen the odd flag within a bunch, expecially on certain holiday weekends. However english flag is much more common and the hyperbole of dozens of hotels flying the union flag is ludicrous.

mike65 · 02-04-2011 04:08PM

Example flag.

murphaph · 02-04-2011 04:16PM

PatsytheNazi wrote: »

Well in fairness, I cann't see a bunch of guys walking up to the say, the Shelbourne carrying a ladder to pull down the union jack - or butcher's apron as they would probably refer to it.

They or you?

PatsytheNazi wrote: »

Nevertheless, I can see a person's point in not wanting to see this emblem of so much bloodshed in Ireland and people will have to take that into consideration.

My bold. Sounds almost like a threat that. I don't expect too many people to be out with union flags but if a few people do choose to do that then they should be left in peace by these clowns, short of a few brain cells as most of them are.

PatsytheNazi wrote: »

After all, wasn't there also a minor riot when the yuppies in Trinity tried to fly it back in the 1940's ?

Well, you said it, the NINETEEN FORTIES! Time to build a bridge and get over it.

jakdelad · 02-04-2011 05:50PM

murphaph wrote: »

You're probably right about that. Says a lot about some of the mongoloid inhabitants of the city that a person couldn't wave a union flag if they so desired without getting abused for it. These same inbred fools should take a look around Dublin 365 days a year-there are dozens of union flags flying outside hotels precisely to welcome to the many BRITISH visitors these hotels receive daily. It seems odd that some muppets would make no issue of PERMANENTLY flying full-on union flags attached to flagpoles all over the city but would make an issue of some kids waving miniature paper flags at the Queen. Go figure.

These goons will not be happy until they've destroyed our (largely fake) image as a hospitable nation and scared off a good chunk of potential British visitors, thereby sticking even more businesses into bankruptcy and even more people on the dole.

jasus a bit harsh dont you think
should we sing a verse of god save the queen as well???
when she passes and say hello maam

murphaph · 02-04-2011 06:05PM

jakdelad wrote: »

jasus a bit harsh dont you think
should we sing a verse of god save the queen as well???
when she passes and say hello maam

I wouldn't encourage or discourage anyone from doing as they please within the law. We live in a FREE country. If someone wants to wave their little union flag, sing God Save the Queen and even get down on their hands and knees and kiss her arse, they should be allowed to do so without fear of being abused, either verbally or physically, by inbred tracksuit wearing twats who have no problem shouting for "their" (British) football team but would go ape at the thoughts if some kids waving a paper union flag for the head of state of our nearest neighbour and important trading partner.

Madam · 02-04-2011 06:11PM

I wonder did this guy say 'hello ma'am:)

http://tinyurl.com/3vczmdp

later12 · 02-04-2011 06:11PM

jakdelad wrote: »

jasus a bit harsh dont you think
should we sing a verse of god save the queen as well???
when she passes and say hello maam

No we should show ourselves to be infantile begrudgers of her visit, clinging to the history of an age in which neither she, nor we, have lived in. And we should instead demonstrate the length to which we are obsessed with our own independence despite the fact that, since her grandfather signed the place over to us, we have since signed an agreement limiting our own real autonomy through the EU and the IMF.

Really, she's just some daft old bint coming to the end of her life and who has been invited to pass a few days at her neighbours. If she turned down the invitation she would have been accused of haughty arrogance despite the fact that she must have mixed feelings about the country where her first cousin and friend Mountbatten was murdered with his friends.

Hopefully we can persuade her of our adulthood, although going by some of the threads on here, I wouldn't count on that.

Corsendonk · 02-04-2011 06:37PM

jakdelad wrote: »

should we hang out union jack flags in oconnell st
when her maj comes
and should the people cheer and wave union flags

what is the protocol???

Well most of the Irish High street seems to be UK so how can we object if they put up bunting for their Queen, not to forget all the UK citizens that live and work in Ireland that might want to see Liz.

RandomName2 · 02-04-2011 06:45PM

jakdelad wrote: »

should we hang out union jack flags in oconnell st
when her maj comes
and should the people cheer and wave union flags

what is the protocol???

Presumably when you say 'union flags' you mean EU flags. We are both, after all, part of that union.

If you are talking about union jack flags well, we aren't part of that union, are we?

Unless you think it is a nice idea to wave the flags of a visitor's country. Would you cheer and wave the French tri-colour if Sarcozy visited... or would you wave the union flag?

DECISIONS DECISIONS!

alan85 · 02-04-2011 07:16PM

I wonder what the protocol is when she takes a dump... Say it's somewhere in the middle of a day's events does some trusted knight have to guard the jacks until the smell has dissipated so nobody can smell the queen's s*it?

Bono, Wogie or O'Reilly could take it turns perhaps...

Just wonder what the practicalities are... hhhhmmm...

chughes · 02-04-2011 08:07PM

alan85 wrote: »

I wonder what the protocol is when she takes a dump...

She'll just use a union jacks somewhere.

loldog · 02-04-2011 09:29PM

I'd have thought all the Coronation Street and Man Utd fans would have no objection to waving the Union Flag.

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alan85 · 02-04-2011 09:36PM

loldog wrote: »

I'd have thought all the Coronation Street and Man Utd fans would have no objection to waving the Union Flag.

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What a s**t arguement... Just because you have an interest in the culture of somewhere does not make you supportive of their political systems, their foreign policy or brutal crimes. And it is perfectly plausable that you could like their culture and still be sensitive to endorsing their political symbolism (flag, anthem, poppy) given what has occured on this island.

RandomName2 · 02-04-2011 09:45PM

alan85 wrote: »

What a s**t arguement... Just because you have an interest in the culture of somewhere does not make you supportive of their political systems, their foreign policy or brutal crimes. And it is perfectly plausable that you could like their culture and still be sensitive to endorsing their political symbolism (flag, anthem, poppy) given what has occured on this island.

what a **** argument. If you are going to be arbitrarily antagonistic towards a people you might as well lump in their culture and political system (what, you mean parliamentary democracy?

). Surely that would be a far more potent and accurate reflection of their people than a powerless figurehead who acts as a chief bottle washer in the political process at home and as foreign dignitary abroad.

Even the old Catholic Church and long dead 3rd Sinn Feiners would see it as more expedient to boycott the sport of football (foreign games) than the visit of the head of another nation. Mind you, the provisional and real IRA would typically not mouth platitudes of opposition, but would instead attempt to cut to the chase through murder; but they hardly needed much excuse for that. :pac:

gurramok · 02-04-2011 09:49PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

what a **** argument. If you are going to be arbitrarily antagonistic towards a people you might as well lump in their culture and political system (what, you mean parliamentary democracy? ). Surely that would be a far more potent and accurate reflection of their people than a powerless figurehead who acts as a chief bottle washer in the political process at home and as foreign dignitary abroad.
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Its an excellent argument. Football/music/Corrie/fish & chips etc represent British culture, the British people themselves. The British Queen is a political representative of the British state, big difference.

jakdelad · 03-04-2011 04:46PM

gurramok wrote: »

Its an excellent argument. Football/music/Corrie/fish & chips etc represent British culture, the British people themselves. The British Queen is a political representative of the British state, big difference.

you mean vindaloo curry, sun readers, lager louts
kebabs, page 3 tit girls
thieving scousers , true english culture
the queen represents a nation of thieves
STOLEN FROM INDIA the koh i noor diamond
STOLEN FROM GREECE the elgin marbles
STOLEN FROM EGYPT tuthankhamun treasures
go to the british national museum and see treasured artifacts stolen from all over the world
the uk govt to this day refuse to hand back these treasures to their rightfull countries of origin

LordSutch · 03-04-2011 05:05PM

jakdelad wrote: »

should we hang out union jack flags in oconnell st
when her maj comes
and should the people cheer and wave union flags

what is the protocol???

Yes,
I ordered a box of ten hand waver U-Jcks for a tenner from up north, (for family & friends), we hope to be at thr front of the crowd possibly in O'Connell St, waving them as her Masj passes, our kids expecially will enjoy the day/spectacle.

Seanchai · 03-04-2011 05:08PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Yes,
I ordered a box of ten hand waver U-Jcks for a tenner from up north, (for family & friends), we hope to be at thr front of the crowd possibly in O'Connell St, waving them as her Masj passes, our kids expecially will enjoy the day.

That really remains to be seen.

Seanchai · 03-04-2011 05:09PM

Corsendonk wrote: »

Well most of the Irish High street seems to be UK so how can we object if they put up bunting for their Queen, not to forget all the UK citizens that live and work in Ireland that might want to see Liz.

Let me guess: you're British?

LordSutch · 03-04-2011 05:10PM

Seanchai wrote: »

That really remains to be seen.

Why?

PS message to Seanchai, High Street has become very popular here in Ireland, you will hear High Street used a lot even on RTE!

Wolfe Tone · 03-04-2011 05:12PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Yes,
I ordered a box of ten hand waver U-Jcks for a tenner from up north, (for family & friends), we hope to be at thr front of the crowd possibly in O'Connell St, waving them as her Masj passes, our kids expecially will enjoy the day/spectacle.

Are you serious?

I wouldnt bring kids into town tbh... Too dangerous.

Seanchai · 03-04-2011 05:15PM

later10 wrote: »

Hopefully we can persuade her of our adulthood

How embarrassing for you that you want Irish people to "persuade her of our adulthood" - as if 1) the Irish people should feel inferior, and 2) that the British queen would be important enough to put extra effort into impressing.

This, after all, is a woman who holds a position which is predicated upon her being a Protestant in 2011 - and which has excluded her forefathers for even marrying a Catholic. And that's mature. :rolleyes:

jakdelad · 03-04-2011 05:16PM

suppose badboy fireworks and laser pens would be out of the question

queens visit

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