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Ex-Con has his arm hacked off (and is probably dead)

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  • #32
    Refugee from RealLife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭Refugee from RealLife


    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    I would imagine that the finger prints were probably unreadable, what with decomposition from being in the water.

    I don't understand why we can't do the DNA tests in Ireland.

    Don't they do parental tests using DNA?. I think the issue is there is no DNA database in Ireland.


  • #33
    boatbuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭boatbuilder


    Pretty pathetic that we had to send DNA samples to the UK for them to tell us he had just recently been released from one of our own prisons.


  • #34
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    ronan45 wrote: »
    If he was convicted of rape shouldnt he of been noticed missing before this IE: Should he not be on a sex offenders list?
    I assumed if you had been convicted of rape in this country the guards would know where you live and what you are bloody well up to?

    Anyone know where Larry Murphy is since the papers stopped following him around all day...I doubt the guards do.

    It's all the other one armed people in the country I feel sorry for, they are going to be getting some strange looks over the next few days.


  • #35
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Refugee from RealLife wrote: »
    Don't they do parental tests using DNA?. I think the issue is there is no DNA database in Ireland.

    probably a more expensive version of that..


  • #36
    IvyTheTerrible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Because we don't store DNA...?

    Why couldn't we store DNA? All we would need is a -20C freezer.


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  • #37
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Refugee from RealLife wrote: »
    Don't they do parental tests using DNA?. I think the issue is there is no DNA database in Ireland.

    'Next on Maury...is this convicted Rapist the owner of this arm???...stay tuned to find out.'


  • #38
    IvyTheTerrible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    Refugee from RealLife wrote: »
    Don't they do parental tests using DNA?. I think the issue is there is no DNA database in Ireland.

    I don't know where parental tests are done.

    Even if there is no DNA database in Ireland, we could still do the actual test here, and send the results to England to be analysed. I would have thought that would be more secure than adding another link to the evidence chain by sending DNA away.


  • #39
    Cathaoirleach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 701 ✭✭✭Cathaoirleach


    Interesting story, though I would have preferred if they cut of his dick, arms, legs, and removed his eyeballs, and left him to live in misery.

    That reminds me, I wonder what ever happened to Larry Murphy. Probably off raping and murdering people in France/Spain, or wherever it is he's hiding out. That scumbag should be tortured for the rest of his life.


  • #40
    Zulu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    meh, can't say I've any sympathy for him. In fact, I can't say I wasn't glad when I heard the arm belonged to a convicted rapist TBH.


  • #41
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    I would imagine that the finger prints were probably unreadable, what with decomposition from being in the water.

    I don't understand why we can't do the DNA tests in Ireland.
    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Because we don't store DNA...?

    Perhaps I'm wrong, but I read this as the offece being committed in the UK, therefore there the ones who prosecuted and convicted him and stored his DNA.
    Dean09 wrote: »
    Who said this guy was wrongly convicted? He was guilty and deserved what he got.

    And as per your other comment, no not just to sound "macho" as you put it, But if some scumbag raped a member of my family yeah I'd chop him up aswell.
    Fúck him. Rape is one of the most horrible crimes there is. The victim has to live with it for the rest of their life but the scum who did it are released and free to do it again and again.

    I think the point was that IF someone was wrongly convicted. Remember the case of the woman who came forward and admitted that, when she was 13, she made a false sexual abuse claim against someone as part of a family fued; but waited 10 more years before coming forward to clear his name.

    Are you saying he should have had his arm hacked off as well?
    Cathaoirleach wrote: »
    Interesting story, though I would have preferred if they cut of his dick, arms, legs, and removed his eyeballs, and left him to live in misery.

    That reminds me, I wonder what ever happened to Larry Murphy. Probably off raping and murdering people in France/Spain, or wherever it is he's hiding out. That scumbag should be tortured for the rest of his life.

    Jesus, that is some sick **** to suggest. You need help.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • #42
    jackiebaron
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    Einstein wrote: »
    live by the sword die by the sword...
    I got zero sympathy for someone in that game who meets a grizzly end tbh...

    "Live by the sword die by the sword"?

    So now our justice system should be based upon cliches?

    So what do you propose we do with arsonists, set them on fire?
    Steal back from thieves?
    Publicly beat up prepetrators of assault?

    Do you propose also that the person(s) who mutilated this guy should not be prosecuted since they were carrying out the wishes that satisfied your own personal bloodlust?


  • #43
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    jackiebaron wrote: »
    So instead of sending someone to prison you propose that they have various limbs amputated (without anaesthetic), correct?

    Who do you think ought to do the dismembering and what should the compensation be for the wrongly convicted?

    I think its plainly obvious prison is not adequate rehab for sexual predators. Yeah i'd have been happy if someone cut off his balls but they cut off his arm and most likely he is dead. I have 0 sympathy for him.

    I'm not saying I propose it, i'm saying after the fact i dont really care that he was hacked up and fed to the fishes.


  • #44
    IvyTheTerrible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Perhaps I'm wrong, but I read this as the offece being committed in the UK, therefore there the ones who prosecuted and convicted him and stored his DNA.

    Ah fair enough!


  • #45
    ronan45
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭ronan45


    Chemical Castration, I condon violence


  • #46
    Cianos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    http://i55.tinypic.com/erl6yo.jpg


  • #47
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    ronan45 wrote: »
    Chemical Castration, I condon violence

    Condon away.;)


  • #48
    Guill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    Yea, chemical castration is the way to go.
    or
    Rip their arm off and beat them to death with it.














    (I've said too much....)


  • #49
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Einstein wrote: »
    live by the sword die by the sword...
    I got zero sympathy for someone in that game who meets a grizzly end tbh...

    How do you know that a bear did it?:confused:


  • #50
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    I actually feel sorry for this guy, if he ever turns up alive someone will have to give him a hand finding work.


  • #51
    Chickaroo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Chickaroo


    jackiebaron wrote: »
    Who do you think ought to do the dismembering and what should the compensation be for the wrongly convicted?

    The Scissor Sisters have ample experience in this dept!!! Just a suggestion though...........


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  • #52
    Degsy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    For a full list of possible puns..


  • #53
    jackiebaron
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    Dean09 wrote: »
    Who said this guy was wrongly convicted? He was guilty and deserved what he got.

    And as per your other comment, no not just to sound "macho" as you put it, But if some scumbag raped a member of my family yeah I'd chop him up aswell.
    Fúck him. Rape is one of the most horrible crimes there is. The victim has to live with it for the rest of their life but the scum who did it are released and free to do it again and again.

    I never said he was wrongly convicted, did I? But someone on here stated that the punishment for crimes such as rape should be that the perpetrator be hacked to death or have limbs chopped off. I asked that person to suggest what compensation might be forthcoming if it turned out that the convicted (who had his limbs chopped off) turned out to be innocent all along and that the conviction was overturned. I'm not trivialising rape but if people on here are seriously advocating ritual mutilation for various crimes then I challenge that they are either trying to sound tough or that if they are really serious then to back up their absurd suggestions.
    In conclusion, if someone did in fact rape a member of your family and you acted out your urges and went ahead and chopped their arms and legs off do you think that you should be free from prosecution?


  • #54
    problemchimp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭problemchimp


    ronan45 wrote: »
    If he was convicted of rape shouldnt he of been noticed missing before this IE: Should he not be on a sex offenders list?
    I assumed if you had been convicted of rape in this country the guards would know where you live and what you are bloody well up to?
    That makes sense so, no, it will never happen.


  • #55
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Is this him?:confused:


  • #56
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    ronan45 wrote: »
    If he was convicted of rape shouldnt he of been noticed missing before this IE: Should he not be on a sex offenders list?
    I assumed if you had been convicted of rape in this country the guards would know where you live and what you are bloody well up to?


    In fairness, it is possible that they knew he was missing and were conducting enquiries. It's a bit difficult to report to the Gardai and inform them of your current whereabouts when you're dead!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #57
    samsmammy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭samsmammy


    Id ive my right arm to know what really happened :D:D:D


  • #58
    El Siglo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    I would imagine that the finger prints were probably unreadable, what with decomposition from being in the water.

    I don't understand why we can't do the DNA tests in Ireland.

    We can, it's a matter of PCR etc... However, the labs might not be accredited (most labs aren't accredited, this doesn't mean the lab is crap, just might be a bit iffy in court) or it might be too expensive (e.g. I know scientists that send of samples to the US for 14C dating rather than sending them to QUB, because it's cheaper).


  • #59
    Cherry_Cola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,989 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    In regards to there not being a DNA databse in Ireland, I believe there is an EU directive which requires all member states to implement a DNA database before a certain date.

    I'm not sure how far off Ireland are yet but there are quite a few ethical issues to be considered, such as how long the DNA should be kept on the database and if it should only be for certain crimes etc.

    England and Wales I think may have to make several changes to the length of time the samples are stored on their db and also what happens if the person is subsequently acquitted of a crime.

    The Scottish system seems to be a much better way of dealing with it IMO, with set times for the removal of samples and the removal of samples from those acquitted.

    It will be very interesting to see which system Ireland will adopt (if they even get around to building one!)


  • #60
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    I actually feel sorry for this guy, if he ever turns up alive someone will have to give him a hand finding work.

    He'd get a job in an amusement arcade, or in a re-make of The Fugitive.


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  • #61
    fiasco9661
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    RORSCHACH IS IN DUBLIN!!!!:eek:


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