Airport Security Bins Question

RichieC · 29-03-2011 04:26PM

Biggins wrote: »

A bit daft that we have to wait that long.
Whats the reason for so long the wait?

Not sure, it's an EU thing so I think it has to move at a snails pace by law.

alexlyons · 29-03-2011 04:27PM

prinz wrote: »

Not explosive enough to damage the aircraft to threaten the safety of the entire aircraft.

fair enough but I stand by my other point

ejmaztec · 29-03-2011 04:29PM

Why haven't all airports got these:

http://www.ceia.net/news.asp?sede=eng

The EMA analyzer is a device designed to inspect bottles and their contents in order to reveal the presence of any combustible, inflammable and/or explosive liquids. The detection procedure is extremely simple, thanks to the automatic recognition of the bottle in the inspection cavity. In just a few seconds, the analyzer provides a positive response (OK) or an alarm message without the need for any interpretation on the part of the operator. The device analyzes the entire volume of the bottle.

If the result of the analysis matches the characteristics of harmless liquids (e.g. water, wine, spirits or soft drinks), the device gives an “OK” message and a green light signal.

If the result does not conform to ‘harmless’ characteristics, the EMA analyzer gives a visual and acoustic alarm signal.

prinz · 29-03-2011 04:29PM

Biggins wrote: »

A bit daft that we have to wait that long.
Whats the reason for so long the wait?

RichieC wrote: »

Not sure, it's an EU thing so I think it has to move at a snails pace by law.

New technology which supposedly can screen for liquid explosive materials is to be rolled out across Europe. They gave the deadline of April 2013 for all the airports to get their act together to install, train staff, rigorous test runs etc.

Biggins · 29-03-2011 04:30PM

RichieC wrote: »

Not sure, it's an EU thing so I think it has to move at a snails pace by law.

Aaa... that would sound about right.

After they have sat down in multiple committees, discussed it over steak lunches and drinkies before flying home to confer (must remember to get the duty free!) before returning again to give the legislation another lash! :pac:

Biggins · 29-03-2011 04:34PM

Anyway, back to the mutterings I was on about in my first post.
It does seem indeed like state allowed unofficial stealing if the stuff is 'walking' home in airport staff pockets.
If good stuff has to be binned for security, I'd genuinely like to see it go to a charity if possible - but thats just my feelings.

ArmaniJeanss · 29-03-2011 04:36PM

Melion wrote: »

Used to work in Airport Security, trust me, the good stuff does not go in a bin. I got enough aftershave to last me years when i was doing it.

Does not compute.
99% of aftershaves are 100ml or less bottles, so no reason for anyone to have to throw them away.

lost marbles · 29-03-2011 04:43PM

Biggins wrote: »

Anyway, back to the mutterings I was on about in my first post.
It does seem indeed like state allowed unofficial stealing if the stuff is 'walking' home in airport staff pockets.
If good stuff has to be binned for security, I'd genuinely like to see it go to a charity if possible - but thats just my feelings.

ive heard that most of the stuff taken off passengers goes to a charity in northern afghanistan that helps poor people that live in caves .

Biggins · 29-03-2011 04:44PM

lost marbles wrote: »

ive heard that most of the stuff taken off passengers goes to a charity in northern afghanistan that helps poor people that live in caves .

Bin Laden must smell very nice then. :pac:

Le King · 29-03-2011 04:44PM

I used to know a chap who used to sell "destroyed" cigarettes. A lot of American guys used to go to him because of the Newport brands and general American style cigarettes. Also used to get a lot of Chinese guys there too. He had thousands of Marlboro Lights/Gold, B+H Gold and John Player Blue. He used to sell any alcohol to the off-license. I don't know how much of that he got. But he had people up at his house in the droves for the cigarettes. I'd say he could of easily had about 100 people a day. He got caught in the end though.

CharlesHaughey · 29-03-2011 05:00PM

My friends Dad works security at the airport. My friends gets free deoderant, the good stuff i'm talking about. I was in the house onetime and saw many bottles of perfume in the cupboard and the fridge had a full lucozade bottle, coke bottle and Ribena.

Trust me, if they stuff is good they take it.

Captain Commie · 29-03-2011 05:14PM

Seriously dont know why people are still complaining over this. there are rules in place and whilst they may be restrictive, they are very simple to comply with.

Im fed up with people complaining about this all the time

temply · 29-03-2011 05:17PM

You can be damn sure anything decent is pocketed

Biggins · 29-03-2011 05:21PM

Axis Cometo wrote: »

Seriously dont know why people are still complaining over this. there are rules in place and whilst they may be restrictive, they are very simple to comply with.

Im fed up with people complaining about this all the time

Yea, like there is threads here everyday giving out out this!

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Not many are giving out - calm down, have a drinkie!

Elessar · 29-03-2011 05:25PM

The metals we take off you are binned, melted and the proceeds given to charity IIRC. Everything else is binned.

Dublin is getting the liquid scanners mentioned on the last page. The UK are easing restrictions on liquids this year I have heard, with Europe following suit eventually.

Captain Commie · 29-03-2011 06:13PM

Biggins wrote: »

Yea, like there is threads here everyday giving out out this!

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Not many are giving out - calm down, have a drinkie!

its not just on here its complained about. I work at the airport and also fly out on a fairly regular basis and its always the same. People giving out at the ASU for taking stuff off them. They know full well that they shouldnt have that stuff on them or in their cabin bag, but still proceed to carry it and kick up a fuss when its taken off them.

They know the rules, break em and u lose what ever it was u were carrying, simples

(I'll be having more than one drink when i get home tonight)

Mike 1972 · 29-03-2011 06:52PM

RichieC wrote: »

I rather not have to throw my 75 pound bottle of aftershave into a bin liner.

Why would anyone spend £75 on a product which marginally increaces ones chances of getting laid when they can get a hooker for less

AnonoMouse · 29-03-2011 06:55PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Why would anyone spend £75 on a product which marginally increaces ones chances of getting laid when they can get a hooker for less

To mask the odour of desperation.

29-03-2011 07:40PM

The rules are simple enough like, everybody should be aware nowadays of what you can and cannot take on a plane with you, yet some of the stuff you see in the bins is just shocking and a downright shame that they're gonna be binned...I would imagine that definately at least some of the best stuff gets claimed behind closed doors. I'd say even the best of us would struggle to not take that opportunity of taking home something really nice and expensive if you knew it was just going to be disposed of.

On a side note, not too long ago I accidentaly managed to get a pen knife with a 6 inch blade through security in my handluggage at Glasgow airport. Was over for a week with work and needed one everyday, so it just got chucked in my bag everyday and I completely forgot about it. Flew back home, read everything out of my bag, and to my amazement there was this bright green pen knife sitting proud in my bag. They scanned my bag and even looked in it to check something else out, yet somehow completely bypassed the knife... Shocked I tells ya, shocked :eek:

Pwindedd · 29-03-2011 07:58PM

Just cos "rules is rules" doesn't mean you shouldn't question or challenge them. It's bad enough being herded through passport control like mad sheep ! Checking in a bag costs more than the cost of a flight these days and sometimes you just forget what you packed. But let's all be nice and not make any trouble - look what a good citizen I am - it's for everyone's benefit ! I'll take off my shoes and let my trousers fall down cos you've got my belt in your silly little scanner that you're not even looking at ! Feck off it's a pain in de hole and you know it.

CD. · 29-03-2011 08:24PM

my sister and i were going through an english airport (forget which one, it was one of the main ones anyway) we each had a 100ml bottle.
both stated the amount in them as 0.1L

we were told they were too big and were confiscated, we pointed out that it with in the range. they told us the bottles were far to large to hold only 100mls.
the bottles were glass and contained alcohol (we both only had carryons and wanted to try the alcohol without having to buy larger bottles at home) both were sealed.

they showed us two 100 ml plastic bottles and told us "this is the size of a 100 ml bottle", not taking into account glass would be larger.

i emailed to complain and was told that larger bottles can be taken even if they only have 100ml capacity.
they ignored the fact that their staff could not discern that 0.1 of a litre is 100 mls.

three seperate people, including the manager told us that 0.1L is more than 100mls, something which is very, very worrying.

Alter-Ego · 29-03-2011 08:25PM

Its par for the course these days. Even though it is a stupid, over the top law.
Its pretty annoying when you buy a drink in the airport, completely forgetting that you'll have to surrender it a few mouthfuls later.

Also, DAA are scumbags for charging for the little ziploc bags when a lot of other airports just give them out for free.

If I worked in security I'd take anything of value that was being dumped. It'd be a waste otherwise.

RichieC · 29-03-2011 08:26PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Why would anyone spend £75 on a product which marginally increaces ones chances of getting laid when they can get a hooker for less

AnonoMouse wrote: »

To mask the odour of desperation.

BAM!

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