Declan Ganley - Todays Mail on Sunday article

Ash.J.Williams · 27-03-2011 08:41PM #1

I am sitting here now on the best possible broadband connection available to me ( a 3e dongle showing one bar of connection). I am infuriated after reading Declans article today. I do not have it with me so I am posting this from memory as best I can. He pitched for the esat licence back in the day, along with some very powerful people in the industry. He went to them with an idea, and they believed in him enough to finance his bid, €80m approx. Their aim was to create the most powerful communications company in Europe, based here in Ireland. The bid, he reckoned was so good, that he was in shock on receiving the news that his consortium was unsuccessful.
If all this is true, along with the findings of the moriarty tribunal, then Lowery and his band of treasonous friends could well have deprived this country of technology that would have given us a far greater competitive edge then we currently have, providing us with more jobs nationwide. All for the sake of greed, personal gain and cronyism. How many other contracts were awarded to weaker bids?
Michael Lowery at least deserves to be charged and brought to trial for his alleged crime. At least then we will truely know if he is as innocent as he is making out, or if he's a greedy, gombeen, treasonous snake.
Tipperary can shove it's casino up it's hole too.

joshrogan · 27-03-2011 08:45PM

You probably have better internet connection available to you but your dongle can't withstand googling them so you're stuck with it. I'm sure they were designed with that in mind.

galwayrush · 27-03-2011 08:46PM

Welcome to Ireland, where vested interests always come before the good of the country.

Coriolanus · 27-03-2011 08:49PM

Declan Ganley?

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Ash.J.Williams · 27-03-2011 08:50PM

joshrogan wrote: »

You probably have better internet connection available to you but your dongle can't withstand googling them so you're stuck with it. I'm sure they were designed with that in mind.

A satalite is my only other option, and it isn't great to be honest. Perhaps if the best people won "our" national contracts then things would be different.

syklops · 27-03-2011 08:50PM

Declan Ganley and Mail on Sunday in one sentence.

/me awaits thread filled with lies, damned lies and statistics.

99% of the World read the Mail on Sunday - FACT! reports the Mail on Sunday.

ejmaztec · 27-03-2011 08:51PM

Ireland, the only country where the cnuts end up running the asylum.

OutlawPete · 27-03-2011 08:51PM

I hear ya. Watching a movie on Videobox is almost impossible for me somedays. I have to switch from HD quality down to just bog standard HQ most days. Infruiating mess these people have left this country in when a man can't fap to Hi Def vagina poundings in the peace and quiet of his own home.

Ash.J.Williams · 27-03-2011 08:52PM

syklops wrote: »

Declan Ganley and Mail on Sunday in one sentence.

/me awaits thread filled with lies, damned lies and statistics.

99% of the World read the Mail on Sunday - FACT! reports the Mail on Sunday.

the fact is a judge ruled the contract was awarded in an incorrect manner. Thus our nation was deprived of something better.

jimthemental · 27-03-2011 08:52PM

Mail on Sunday + Declan Ganley. The thread title has legitimacy wrote all over it.

AskMyChocolate · 27-03-2011 08:56PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I am sitting here now on the best possible broadband connection available to me ( a 3e dongle showing one bar of connection). I am infuriated after reading Declans article today. I do not have it with me so I am posting this from memory as best I can. He pitched for the esat licence back in the day, along with some very powerful people in the industry. He went to them with an idea, and they believed in him enough to finance his bid, €80m approx. Their aim was to create the most powerful communications company in Europe, based here in Ireland. The bid, he reckoned was so good, that he was in shock on receiving the news that his consortium was unsuccessful.
If all this is true, along with the findings of the moriarty tribunal, then Lowery and his band of treasonous friends could well have deprived this country of technology that would have given us a far greater competitive edge then we currently have, providing us with more jobs nationwide. All for the sake of greed, personal gain and cronyism. How many other contracts were awarded to weaker bids?
Michael Lowery at least deserves to be charged and brought to trial for his alleged crime. At least then we will truely know if he is as innocent as he is making out, or if he's a greedy, gombeen, treasonous snake.
Tipperary can shove it's casino up it's hole too.

He needs his kneecaps blown off as a lesson to the next sleveen,gombeen little traitor that would try to emulate him. Both of my parents are Tipp people, my dad from Thurles (deceased) and my mam from Nenagh, and they'd both say the same. "If Dan Breen was alive today, I can assure you Michael Lowery wouldn't be."

Avns1s · 27-03-2011 08:56PM

If Lowry saved us from Declan Ganley, I am starting to change my opinion of him!!

Guy:Incognito · 27-03-2011 08:56PM

Just because Declan Ganley says he would have done things brilliantly doesnt make it true.

Has he voiced these opinions before or is he hopping on the coattails of the moriarty tribunal to tell us how great he is?

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

the fact is a judge ruled the contract was awarded in an incorrect manner. Thus our nation was deprived of something better.

How do you make that jump? it's not automatically better because Ganley says so, how do you know it actually wouldnt have been worse?

The Waltzing Consumer · 27-03-2011 08:57PM

Yeah beside the lowry thing. Is it not very easy to write an article promising the moon and the stars when Ganley never had to deliver on any of it?

If you read an article by Michael Martin saying "if you had elected us instead of FG/LAB, we would have 100% employment, monkey butlers and everything would be fantastic", would you believe it? Eh no. So why believe Ganley? Plus, how long has the market been open now, what has stopped him delivering all this now or in the last decade?

Ash.J.Williams · 27-03-2011 08:58PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Just because Declan Ganley says he would have done things brilliantly doesnt make it true.

Has he voiced these opinions before or is he hopping on the coattails of the moriarty tribunal to tell us how great he is?

I take your point, but that fact is the best bid, whomever that may be....lost

Ash.J.Williams · 27-03-2011 09:00PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Just because Declan Ganley says he would have done things brilliantly doesnt make it true.

Has he voiced these opinions before or is he hopping on the coattails of the moriarty tribunal to tell us how great he is?

How do you make that jump? it's not automatically better because Ganley says so, how do you know it actually wouldnt have been worse?

because the bidding process was corrupt and had it been fair then the best company would have one.

amacca · 27-03-2011 09:01PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

I hear ya. Watching a movie on Videobox is almost impossible for me somedays. I have to switch from HD quality down to just bog standard HQ most days. Infruiating mess these people have left this country in when a man can't fap to Hi Def vagina poundings in the peace and quiet of his own home.

a peace and quiet interrupted by orgasmic moans and high pitched screams?

or do you watch with the sound off?

(thin walls in the apartment - nosey neighbours - what what is it goddamnit?)

I find this more interesting than even contemplating the existence of someone like Ganly or Lowery or a possible fcuking casino in Tipp for that matter.

Guy:Incognito · 27-03-2011 09:01PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I take your point, but that fact is the best bid, whomever that may be....lost

Again, how do we know that? The ESAT bid may have worked out the most successfull in the long run anyway. The fact that it was won corruptly doesnt mean we are better or worse off. Without at least haveing all the details of the other bids, its unfounded opinion based on the words of a shyster.

RachaelVO · 27-03-2011 09:03PM

Ganley is probably right, and yes this does highlight the cronyism that is rampant all over Ireland. From the Mail???? Serious anti irish bias and will look for anything to slag us off. As for Declan Ganley... People in Glass Houses should NEVER throw stones!

Ash.J.Williams · 27-03-2011 09:04PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Again, how do we know that? The ESAT bid may have worked out the most successfull in the long run anyway. The fact that it was won corruptly doesnt mean we are better or worse off. Without at least haveing all the details of the other bids, its unfounded opinion based on the words of a shyster.

If a company required inside information and cash to get the bid it is open to assume they may not have had the best bid.

Mike 1972 · 27-03-2011 09:06PM

The mid 1990's licence round was a GSM 2G licence.

Regardless of who secured that particular franchise if the OP was dependent on 2G for their net conection they would have been barely able to get on USENET nevermind Youtube.

prinz · 27-03-2011 09:06PM

Ganley is a mouthpiece in love with the sound of his own voice, and a shady shady businessman in his own right. He got some very, very lucrative deals land in his own lap which I am sure were all totally above board.

hardCopy · 27-03-2011 09:07PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

If a company required inside information and cash to get the bid it is open to assume they may not have had the best bid.

Quite possibly, but Ganley's an even bigger sh1tehawk than O'Brien so I'd take anything he says with a few bags of salt

Guy:Incognito · 27-03-2011 09:08PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

If a company required inside information and cash to get the bid it is open to assume they may not have had the best bid.

Not nessescarily, maybe they were all throwing money around and the ESAT one was the highest. It's possible they were so confident of succeeding once they won it that they "outbid" the others.Mybe Declan Ganley is just bitter he didnt offer Lowry enough?

As one of the posts above, if his bid was so good, what happened to it when other licenses came up?

Blobby George · 27-03-2011 09:09PM

Declan Ganley and The Mail on Sunday. Nah, you're alright.

Ash.J.Williams · 27-03-2011 09:09PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

The mid 1990's licence round was a GSM 2G licence.

Regardless of who secured that particular franchise if the OP was dependent on 2G for their net conection they would have been barely able to get on USENET nevermind Youtube.

Much of my point is based on what could have been. If our governments were not currupt, then little things like national contracts going to the right people would have had massive effects on how we operate, sadly we will never know what could have been.

Krusader · 27-03-2011 09:09PM

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

He needs his kneecaps blown off as a lesson to the next sleveen,gombeen little traitor that would try to emulate him. Both of my parents are Tipp people, my dad from Thurles (deceased) and my mam from Nenagh, and they'd both say the same. "If Dan Breen was alive today, I can assure you Michael Lowery wouldn't be."

Unfortunately until something like this happens to one of them, they'll still be at it

Bozacke · 27-03-2011 09:11PM

It's strange that you're laughing at Declan Ganly, where Michael Lowry is a much bigger joke. Ben Dunne paid IR£395,000 for an extension to Lowry's Tipperary home, he scammed the country with not just the Esat license but the Dublin Light Rail System and the the closure of rural post offices. Despite all of this, the people of Tipp continue to elect him and you think Ganly's a joke!!!!

Ash.J.Williams · 27-03-2011 09:12PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Not nessescarily, maybe they were all throwing money around and the ESAT one was the highest. It's possible they were so confident of succeeding once they won it that they "outbid" the others.Mybe Declan Ganley is just bitter he didnt offer Lowry enough?

As one of the posts above, if his bid was so good, what happened to it when other licenses came up?

Esats pitch was on the lower scale until they were briefed ilegally on the other bids and then brought in Dermot Desmond.

Ash.J.Williams · 27-03-2011 09:13PM

Bozacke wrote: »

It's strange that you're laughing at Declan Ganly, where Michael Lowry is a much bigger joke. Ben Dunne paid IR£395,000 for an extension to Lowry's Tipperary home, he scammed the country with not just the Esat license but the Dublin Light Rail System and the the closure of rural post offices. Despite all of this, the people of Tipp continue to elect him and you think Ganly's a joke!!!!

That is ireland all over!

OutlawPete · 27-03-2011 09:18PM

amacca wrote: »

a peace and quiet interrupted by orgasmic moans and high pitched screams?

Well, I hook my Laptop up to my projector and so then I can enjoy Videobox (online adult DVD collection of over 10,000 DVDs) in all it's glorious splender.

amacca wrote: »

.. or do you watch with the sound off? (thin walls in the apartment - nosey neighbours - what what is it goddamnit?)

Well, the house is silent .. yes - but only because I stream the audio via Bluetooth to these bad boys, so then I can enjoy the slaps and screaming )Sophie Dee is particularly vocal) without the neighbours thinking I've lost the plot and starting wailing on some girl I met in a nightclub .. again.

amacca wrote: »

.I find this more interesting than even contemplating the existence of someone like Ganly or Lowery or a possible fcuking casino in Tipp for that matter.

Indeed and AH threads are always at their best when a serious debate is taking place between one half of the thread and the how best to enjoy HD porn on the other.

Damn you Lowery.

Declan Ganley - Todays Mail on Sunday article

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