The moriarty report: Findings reveal massive corruption

steddyeddy · 22-03-2011 07:07PM #1

http://www.thejournal.ie/tribunal-labels-lowry-an-insidious-and-pervasive-influence-on-esat-bidding-process-2011-03/

Hopefully prosecutions will follow. The law here in meaningless unless this is followed up.

Why should petty thieves be in jail if criminals like this can walk free?

Edit: http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0322/moriarty_background.html#video

Heres the video

yosemite_sam · 22-03-2011 07:10PM

There will be no prosecutions out of this

Cheap Thrills! · 22-03-2011 07:12PM

I have a few questions on this (looked in Politics, cant see a topic)

1, How much did this sh!t cost
2, What is the point of it now 14 years later

So the second mobile phone licence granted in Ireland was bogus. Does the cost of the tribunal justify this apparently irreversible fact....

? :mad:

tonycascarino · 22-03-2011 07:13PM

Nothing will happen to any of them.

Cheap Thrills! · 22-03-2011 07:14PM

Oh and wtf is the point of COMREG ?

invinciblePRSTV · 22-03-2011 07:15PM

Cheap Thrills! wrote: »

I have a few questions on this (looked in Politics, cant see a topic)

1, How much did this sh!t cost
2, What is the point of it now 14 years later

So the second mobile phone licence granted in Ireland was bogus. Does the cost of the tribunal justify this apparently irreversible fact....

? :mad:

Hi Michael! say hello to Denis & Ben for us.

darragh16 · 22-03-2011 07:16PM

Talk of the other mobile phone operators suing the state over loss of revenue. Could cost the state another few hundred million.

Cheap Thrills! · 22-03-2011 07:17PM

Ha....I had to wiki Micheal Lowry......about 10 minutes ago.

I want to know if this issue was of importance how the fcuk did it take 14 years and millions of taxpayers money to investigate?

And are ESAT even around anymore?

.E_C_K_S. · 22-03-2011 07:17PM

The time to complete and the cost of this report is just shocking. Cannot wait to leave this country and I feel sorry for others who can't for whatever reason.

Degag · 22-03-2011 07:18PM

Pretty disgusting behaviour. I hope he resigns or is sacked (don't know if that's really possible) from the Dail, and receives full criminal proceedings against him.

steddyeddy · 22-03-2011 07:19PM

All large trials and legal proceedings ( Im aware this was not a trial) cost money. The only way this is going to be a waste is if the result of the findings isnt acted on. The state is going to be fined for the unlawful awarding of a telecommunications liscence. People need to be put on trial for this.

Because of this our reputation as a place of business has been tarnished. It will be further in the gutter if the people involved are not punished and the the system that fostered it remains the same.

steddyeddy · 22-03-2011 07:20PM

Cheap Thrills! wrote: »

Ha....I had to wiki Micheal Lowry......about 10 minutes ago.

I want to know if this issue was of importance how the fcuk did it take 14 years and millions of taxpayers money to investigate?

And are ESAT even around anymore?

cheap thrills taxpayers money isnt the only knock on effect this has. It will strongly influence peoples decision wheter or not to invest here.

darragh16 · 22-03-2011 07:21PM

WALSHY16291 wrote: »

The time to complete and the cost of this report is just shocking.

The cost is astronomical alright. Reading here on the RTÉ website that it would've been finished sooner had Charlie not been ill at the turn of the century.

Cheap Thrills! · 22-03-2011 07:22PM

Yeh, what depresses me even more though is that if the tribunals themselves were investigated I'll bet they were wasteful and corrupt inefficient as well :mad:

There should have been a reasonable timeframe for the investigation. The fact that it ran on for 14 years is outrageous.

ejmaztec · 22-03-2011 07:22PM

The ones damned will be asking for a tribunal to be set up to look into Moriarty's handling of the tribunal, as they're all denying the findings. A feckin joke.

steddyeddy · 22-03-2011 07:22PM

Also note the fact that the parties involved delayed the enquiry to a large degree thus adding greatly to the cost.

Mike 1972 · 22-03-2011 07:23PM

Surely the unsuccesful applicants for the mobile phone licence can now bring a massive claim against the state ?

steddyeddy wrote: »

Hopefully prosecutions will follow. The law here in meaningless unless this is followed up.

Why should petty thieves be in jail if criminals like this can walk free?

Hardly the cops have bigger priorities. Like investigating some bloke who the tabloids reckon is growing his own dope.

steddyeddy · 22-03-2011 07:26PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Surely the unsuccesful applicants for the mobile phone licence can now bring a massive claim against the state ?

Well spotted! They can can indeed. The state will also be facing a massive fine for this.

Hardly the cops have bigger priorities. Like investigating some bloke who the tabloids reckon is growing his own dope.

Yes its quite the joke isnt it.

Cheap Thrills! · 22-03-2011 07:27PM

Denis O'Brien on the RTE news now :mad:

steddyeddy · 22-03-2011 07:34PM

Cheap Thrills! wrote: »

Denis O'Brien on the RTE news now :mad:

he had a Slight freudien slip for a second "I paid micheal lowry"

steddyeddy · 22-03-2011 07:38PM

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0322/moriarty_background.html

How esat secured there liscence. Imagine if your a company executive reading this thinking about putting in a bid for a liscence from the state!

Cheap Thrills! · 22-03-2011 07:42PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

he had a Slight freudien slip for a second "I paid micheal lowry"

Noticed that too.

He looked stressed.

donfers · 22-03-2011 07:42PM

i'll tell you exactly what will happen

Lowry will get even more popular in Tipperary, his corruption has been known about for a long time yet he gets more and more popular

the inbred moron locals think it's the big bad Dublin media trying to smear their local hero and he becomes a martyr figure as he promises to fix the local potholes or get extra revenues for farmers

as long as people like that continue to vote for people like Lowry we get exactly the politicans we deserve

ejmaztec · 22-03-2011 07:44PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Hardly the cops have bigger priorities. Like investigating some bloke who the tabloids reckon is growing his own dope.

They should be looking into all members of High society equally:P.

Daegerty · 22-03-2011 07:44PM

The MoriorioriOARYoarioaroarioarioarihoaryoaryoriorioriarioriariariarty tribunal has finally come up with something?

About time. Those involved likely to die of old age one of these days, after the lawyers rake in another few million for themselves

Bullseye1 · 22-03-2011 07:47PM

The people of Tipperary voted the guy in. What does that tell you about Irish politics. We are up there with the likes of Italy and Greece when it comes to the brown envelopes.

Also alot of what the Judge has stated is conjecture and you can be sure if a witness was giving evidence in his court he himself would not allow it. This has been the biggest waste of tax payers money since the voting machines.

x in the city · 22-03-2011 07:50PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/tribunal-labels-lowry-an-insidious-and-pervasive-influence-on-esat-bidding-process-2011-03/

Hopefully prosecutions will follow. The law here in meaningless unless this is followed up.

Why should petty thieves be in jail if criminals like this can walk free?

Edit: http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0322/moriarty_background.html#video

Heres the video

the moriarty f**xing tribunal, lol

costing the tax payer about 100 trillion euro.. what a load of c0ck.

I remember this shoite was on the news and sad ass judges walking into court with 2 tonnes of, erm. tribunal documents..

only in Ireland....

AckwelFoley · 22-03-2011 07:53PM

donfers wrote: »

the inbred moron locals think it's the big bad Dublin media trying to smear their local hero and he becomes a martyr figure as he promises to fix the local potholes or get extra revenues for farmers

Inbred morons eh?

Bertie Ahern
Charlie Haughey
etc etc....yada yada

Dublin has more of their fair share of politicans with questionable ethics.. i dont see why you decide to now think because this man was elected in a rural area it becomes a rural problem - which by default leads to them being inbred

Jonniealan · 22-03-2011 08:08PM

Well lets not make this a Dublin Vs Country thing these greedy self serving munkies exist in all parts of the Island, it is depressing when you here people still praising them on the news though. You cant help thinking that the Country will never change when people still find this sh*te exceptable.

That old bloke prasing him on the news had obviuosly sh*te for brains though ( and yes he has a Dublin counterpart no doubt )

I'd say thats teh nail in the coffin for that casino complex lawrey was involved in ( in a non profit capacity of course )

macroboy · 22-03-2011 08:15PM

all i know is the people of ireland are the fools..
i heard apile of them ringing joe duffy today defending ben dunne..
it was a horror of a show..ended by ben dunne saying sure whats wrong with making a few phonecalls..i have done it b4 to get people brain operations and the like...its not what you know joe its who you know..
this was
said ..without being challenged..and the show ended.

an utter disgrace..and most people were backing him up

Dempsey · 22-03-2011 08:21PM

donfers wrote: »

i'll tell you exactly what will happen

Lowry will get even more popular in Tipperary, his corruption has been known about for a long time yet he gets more and more popular

the inbred moron locals think it's the big bad Dublin media trying to smear their local hero and he becomes a martyr figure as he promises to fix the local potholes or get extra revenues for farmers

as long as people like that continue to vote for people like Lowry we get exactly the politicans we deserve

I didnt need to findings of the Moriarty Tribunal to know that Lowry was corrupt during his time as a Fine Gael minister, I suspect most of North Tipp didnt either.

Most people in Ireland probably voted for someone that was corrupt, the difference is that who they voted for wasnt caught.

The moriarty report: Findings reveal massive corruption

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