People who have jobs complaining about people on the dole.

0verblood · 22-03-2011 05:09AM #1

STFU!

It's my money I'm receiving, I've worked year in year out for the last 7 years since I was 18, now I'm on the dole for the first time ever, and all I see is people complaining that I'm taking their money. Will ye shut up to f*ck, I'm entitled to it and it's not your money! I can blow it all on coke on collection day and you shouldn't give a toss. I paid my taxes and PRSI and PAYE and VAT and TV Licence and all sorts of stealth tax, feck off!

Have any of you on the dole received similar flack?

Chaotic_Forces · 22-03-2011 05:11AM

Learn what JSB is and learn what JSA is.

major bill · 22-03-2011 05:16AM

I find most of the flack directed at me is from the people that work for the welfare office..some can be very rude. also students who had to pay their way through college aint too happy with the labour market ativation fund which funds people to go back and do PLC/fetac courses nearly sure it pays for third level aswell.

Jimmy Garlic · 22-03-2011 05:34AM

I am acquainted with this particular guy (a nasty piece of work by all accounts) that used to always bang on about "dole leaches" "dole scum" etc and how they were spending his tax money on drink and whatnot. He looked down his nose and basically wanted them to have as miserable an existence as possible. I heard that he lost his job in January:D is having mortgage trouble :Dhad to sell his 09 car:D and is signing on:D. Saw him out one Saturday night a couple of weeks ago and I couldn't help myself, I called over to him and said "I hope that is not my tax money you are spending on drink".

Killer Pigeon · 22-03-2011 06:14AM

Bloody benefit scroungers ...

... :P

0verblood · 22-03-2011 07:21AM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

I am acquainted with this particular guy (a nasty piece of work by all accounts) that used to always bang on about "dole leaches" "dole scum" etc and how they were spending his tax money on drink and whatnot. He looked down his nose and basically wanted them to have as miserable an existence as possible. I heard that he lost his job in January:D is having mortgage trouble :Dhad to sell his 09 car:D and is signing on:D. Saw him out one Saturday night a couple of weeks ago and I couldn't help myself, I called over to him and said "I hope that is not my tax money you are spending on drink".

Deadly.

gosuckonalemon · 22-03-2011 07:40AM

0verblood wrote: »

STFU!

It's my money I'm receiving, I've worked year in year out for the last 7 years since I was 18, now I'm on the dole for the first time ever, and all I see is people complaining that I'm taking their money. Will ye shut up to f*ck, I'm entitled to it and it's not your money! I can blow it all on coke on collection day and you shouldn't give a toss. I paid my taxes and PRSI and PAYE and VAT and TV Licence and all sorts of stealth tax, feck off!

Have any of you on the dole received similar flack?

STFU and get a job you bum!

dolphin city · 22-03-2011 09:19AM

wow - you worked for seven years - which makes you what - 25 - time to get off the dole and get another job i think - either in Ireland or Austrlia, Canada or Europe - you're way to young to be sponging off the dole.

22-03-2011 09:34AM

Where do you hear all this OP?

CreepingDeath · 22-03-2011 09:35AM

0verblood wrote: »

It's my money I'm receiving

Previous income tax isn't a personal savings account that you can make withdrawals from.

Offy · 22-03-2011 09:52AM

Ive heard them g0bsh1tes moaning for years now. I love them

Every time I hear one of them I think to myself 'haha you fool, I get three different types of SW and all because I paid my taxes.' I dont moan about the tax man taking over half my income when I am working because thats the system we live in. Suck it up! Its a great country when a student gets an income of almost €600 a week. The poor poverty stricken student

This is my eight year as a student, every wonder why?

Offy · 22-03-2011 09:53AM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Previous income tax isn't a personal savings account that you can make withdrawals from.

If you pay taxes you have certain entitlements, get over it!!!

jester77 · 22-03-2011 09:59AM

At least they are no longer moaning about the price of houses

jackiebaron · 22-03-2011 10:01AM

0verblood wrote: »

STFU!

It's my money I'm receiving, I've worked year in year out for the last 7 years since I was 18, now I'm on the dole for the first time ever, and all I see is people complaining that I'm taking their money. Will ye shut up to f*ck, I'm entitled to it and it's not your money! I can blow it all on coke on collection day and you shouldn't give a toss. I paid my taxes and PRSI and PAYE and VAT and TV Licence and all sorts of stealth tax, feck off!

Have any of you on the dole received similar flack?

Dude, I have a good paying job and have never been on the dole in 20 years but I'm cool with you. You worked and now you need to go on the scratch till the next gig comes along. I'm happy to pay taxes to carry you. Don't mind the cunts who call you a sponger. Guarantee you the vast majority of them got their jobs through a hand-up or got their lucky break through a connection. Not only that but the vast majority of them would fiddle their taxes or dodge some financial obligation if the opportunity arose. They would keep the change if they were undercharged and would do their utmost to stiff a waitress out of her tip yet they piss and moan about others "on the take". Fcuk 'em. Enjoy your hiatus, get to the gym or the park and get some exercise then get to the library and enjoy some literature. Healthy body, healthy mind = healthy outlook. Then go for a pint. You deserve it.

Retrovertigo · 22-03-2011 10:06AM

0verblood wrote: »

STFU!

It's my money I'm receiving, I've worked year in year out for the last 7 years since I was 18, now I'm on the dole for the first time ever, and all I see is people complaining that I'm taking their money. Will ye shut up to f*ck, I'm entitled to it and it's not your money! I can blow it all on coke on collection day and you shouldn't give a toss. I paid my taxes and PRSI and PAYE and VAT and TV Licence and all sorts of stealth tax, feck off!

Have any of you on the dole received similar flack?

With a winning attitude like that it's very hard to see why you're not employed!

DrumSteve · 22-03-2011 10:14AM

Ranting and Raving tbh

Twigster · 22-03-2011 10:19AM

Don't have a problem with people being on the dole, the problem if they're financially better off on the dole than working, so the system is the issue. There's also a big difference between someone who's out of work and someone who's just abusing the system with no intention of ever working.

jackiebaron · 22-03-2011 10:21AM

0verblood wrote: »

Deadly.

Should have asked him how he felt about "dole leeches" and "dole scum"

Eever · 22-03-2011 10:21AM

I got the opposite reaction from people when I was on the dole and then doing a fas course. If I was on a night out or something I'd say to mates "cheers for the drinks lads, it's your taxes paying for it" and the general reaction I got back was "sure would ya ever stop with that, your taxes have paid for it too, you've been paying them long enough".

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Previous income tax isn't a personal savings account that you can make withdrawals from.

I highly doubt he's decided to just take a little holiday from work and is enjoying drawing the dole. No it's not his savings account but he's paid his taxes so now that he's having a hard time he's perfectly entitled to get a little help along the way without being judged for it.

Plazaman · 22-03-2011 10:29AM

Offy wrote: »

If you pay taxes you have certain entitlements, get over it!!!

Eh.... no you don't. You can pay taxes until you bleed through your eyes but it doesn't entitle you to diddly.

You must pay PRSI (aka stamps, insurance, contributions) in order to build up a Social Welfare entitlements. Tax money (like TV licences - just reading that thread

) is dead money, you never see it again.

OP, being a taxpayer myself all my life, I've no problem supporting those out of work. Economy is temporarily fúckéd but hopefully you'll be back in action again. However if you come back and say you're refusing work because you're better off on the dole, then prepare for major remonstration and to receive a good blasting with pi.......

Mr Benevolent · 22-03-2011 10:44AM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Previous income tax isn't a personal savings account that you can make withdrawals from.

True, but PRSI is.

Renn · 22-03-2011 10:56AM

Plazaman wrote: »

You can pay taxes until you bleed through your eyes but it doesn't entitle you to diddly.

You must pay PRSI (aka stamps, insurance, contributions) in order to build up a Social Welfare entitlements.

CreepingDeath · 22-03-2011 10:57AM

The OP should calm down, maybe relax with the help of a nice sponge bath.

wild_cat · 22-03-2011 11:01AM

Offy wrote: »

Ive heard them g0bsh1tes moaning for years now. I love them Every time I hear one of them I think to myself 'haha you fool, I get three different types of SW and all because I paid my taxes.' I dont moan about the tax man taking over half my income when I am working because thats the system we live in. Suck it up! Its a great country when a student gets an income of almost €600 a week. The poor poverty stricken student This is my eight year as a student, every wonder why?

What type of form do I fill in to get that?

professore · 22-03-2011 11:01AM

The only people who can possibly say that are public sector workers as anyone now in the private sector can't talk as their jobs are at risk constantly.

However .... just you wait another 6 months to a year and a lot of those public sector workers are going to be on a much reduced dole payment to what's available now when compulsory redundancies are introduced, it's only a matter of time ....

Gunsfortoys · 22-03-2011 11:06AM

Nothing wrong with being on the dole as long as you are actively looking for a job.

ilovesleep · 22-03-2011 11:19AM

Do you what boils my piss - people moaning as if 500,000 are unemployed out of choice and that they all are dole scroungers. The very same people would prefer to pay tax towards anglo and the banks before assisting others.

Our ex government were fcuk negligant. Did nothing to cull immegration from eastern euporeans, companies got up and left here to go to the very places that we are taking people from. Talking about economic suicide. And people wonder why there is so much unemployed.

During this time the irish were sold to the banks.
The irish taxpayer are fools.

ilovesleep · 22-03-2011 11:24AM

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

Nothing wrong with being on the dole as long as you are actively looking for a job.

Dont you dare reduce others down to your levels of being a taxpaying slave/fool while not one between ff politicians, bankers, developers, ex financial regulator will be held accountable and punished accordingly for what they have done.

Gunsfortoys · 22-03-2011 11:26AM

ilovesleep wrote: »

Dont you dare reduce others down to your levels of being a taxpaying slave/fool while not one between ff politicians, bankers, developers, ex financial regulator will be held accountable and punished accordingly for what they have done.

Seriously STFU.

the groutch · 22-03-2011 11:37AM

jackiebaron wrote: »

Enjoy your hiatus, get to the gym or the park and get some exercise then get to the library and enjoy some literature. Healthy body, healthy mind = healthy outlook. Then go for a pint. You deserve it.

or just go look for another job. they are there alot of people (not saying the OP is one, I don't know him personally) who expect the jobs to come to them, and need to get off their @rse and looks for work.

sunflower27 · 22-03-2011 11:43AM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Previous income tax isn't a personal savings account that you can make withdrawals from.

Well obviously, but as someone who has worked for 10 years and always paid taxes etc, etc, I don't think I should simply have my home taken off me and live off the streets.

I haven't felt the way you do OP and I have been signing on since December. Maybe it's because I am late 30s and most people at that age have a bit of understanding about the way the world works and have been through stages of unemployment themselves.

I'm lucky, I had the foresight to take out mortgage payment protection so I am covered for a year.

I live very differently now. I try and save half my JSB every week. I've taken in a lodger (although unfortunately he lost his job and will be moving back home overseas), but I will get in another as soon as I can.

I don't go out for dinners, I have friends around.

Buying new clothes is off the agenda.

I live very simply these days. I no longer go to the gym, I go for walks.

Not everyone looks at the dole as a way of life. Hell, I couldn't live like this forever. I like being able to enjoy my life - and that takes money.

I am doing volunteer work to keep my mind active and get out of the house.

People that assume all people on the dole are scroungers are very much out of touch.

Let them have their little rant or whatever. As long as I have food in the cupboard, a place to live and am positive that things will improve, then I'm happy

If that p!sses people off, it's not my problem

People who have jobs complaining about people on the dole.

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