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Would you rise to the occasion/give CPR etc

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Have done. few times. Most recently before chrimbo. Nothing too gory. Either heard nothing back or was thanked.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Wicklowrider


    Another pier diving story.. Young girl, I jumped in, wrecked my phone. Her parents new I did but passed it off with a smart comment and walked away. Anyone want an I-phone with a very realistic water screensaver?
    Tell us where they live and we'll teach 'em another type of 1st aid.....:)

    I've had to give my wife cpr and thankfully kept her alive. I also had the honor of being saved from choking by a man I actually hated..... I could not stand the sight of the ****** ! I was eating a rasher and next thing I knew I was choking. Fell on the floor and was losing consciousness when in walks the last person I'd have thought would have it in him to anything constructive ever. Goes to show how wrong I can be about judging people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    There is a principle of law in ireland which states "first do no harm" in otherwords if some chokes to death beside you then you cannot be held liable for not helping

    However i have a son who has epilipsey i i shudder to think that someone would fail to give him antisizure medicine if they had it.

    So my feelings on the subject are "first do what you can to get them out of danger" in otherwords if someone is drowning get a stick to help them. Jump in and they may pull you down.

    If someone falls and is cut open use a jumper to stem the flow of blood. Get them to apply pressure.

    TBH i could not care if someone sues me. My mind would go mad if i did not help someone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭Longboard



    I used to be called "The Jinx"

    Its better than being called "Jessica Fletcher"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    I've taken a course in First Aid 'cause my dad has epilepsy and quite often has seizures. Myself and my younger brother were encouraged to go to make us less likely to panic or whatever should we ever witness him fitting.

    I've been alone with him on a number of occasions when he's had a seizure. The scariest was when he was driving me to school when I was about 16. I dealt with it though.

    As for jumping into water to save someone... I'm quite a weak swimmer but I just can't imagine myself ever standing around doing nothing while another person was in trouble and needed help.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭ectoraige


    I would like to think I would but with modern insurance claim shiite, would this over-ride natural instinct

    The explanation I was giving was that there are no Good Samaritan laws here yet, partly because is it hasn't really been an issue in the courts here. The principle the courts use is that unless the person is in your care, you have no duty of care. If you do offer assistance, the person must consent to this, with the assumption that if the person is unconscious, consent is automatically given.

    If you do give care then you need only provide a standard that would be reasonably expected given your level of training and experience. Take two similar scenarios where a person encounters an unconscious stranger when out walking and where there is no AED available.

    In the first case, the responder has received no training but has watched a lot of telly. He tries his best to give compressions and rescue breaths, but his compressions aren't deep enough, and he failed to open the airways. After five minutes, he gives up seeing no response and calls 999.

    In the second case, the responder has done a certified CFR course. He carries out an initial assessment, calls 999, opens the airway, and gives two breaths followed by 30:2 compressions/breaths. After five minutes, he gives up seeing no response.

    In the first example no liability would be found by the courts as he did nothing that was contrary to his level of training. In the second example however the responder might be found negligent as, based on the training he received, he would be expected to continue compressions until the ambulance crew takes over.

    Whether you think you know CPR or not, the single most important thing is to call 999 as the sooner you do, the sooner the ambulance arrive; also the operator can talk you through the steps. The chance of success is greatly improved if an AED is used so try to inform yourself where one might be located in places you frequent - even if you don't know how to use one, you can fetch it for somebody who does.


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