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Nurofen and Bloody Chemists

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gosuckonalemon


    Kat1170 wrote: »
    Not if taken properly.

    And why all the hand wringing and dire warnings from pharmacists now that they HAVE to, why not before if they are so bloody worried about my health.:confused:

    I'm sure pharmacists don't give two fu.cks about your helth tbh. It's up to you yourself, as a mature adult, to worry about your own health. The pharmacist's role is to be there to provide information, OTC medicines and dispense prescriptions, should you have a problem with your health.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Kimono-Girl



    The amount of elderly women who come in looking for nurofen plus/solpadeine for their arthritis is crazy. When you ask them how often they take it they'd say "ah sure I only take two every night before I go to bed"...essentially relying on the codeine to put them to sleep. Do you think they realise that they are addicted?


    correct me if i am wrong but as far as i know people with arthritis are supposed to take 2 solpadol (the prescription one) a day (or when the pain gets bad which can be daily). isn't it part of arthritis that they are one of the many tablets they are supposed to take for the condition along with calcium tablets and other such meds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    you must have been irresponsible somewhere down the line to be having to think of getting an aids test; can't believe you eventually replied with this. 33yr btw, patronizing sap of a post.. and just in case, hates metallicurgh

    Your posts do come across as if you are a 15 year old


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The amount of elderly women who come in looking for nurofen plus/solpadeine for their arthritis is crazy. When you ask them how often they take it they'd say "ah sure I only take two every night before I go to bed"...essentially relying on the codeine to put them to sleep. Do you think they realise that they are addicted?

    I think the bigger question is does it matter that they're addicted? Opiates aren't that serious a thing to be addicted to, especially in old age..
    These elderly women won't have to go through a withdrawal stage and regular use wont damage their bodies to the extent where it's not worth the pain relief.

    If I have to take medication to keep my heart running everyday, would you say I've an addiction? I don't see any difference with that and using codeine everyday in old age to keep pain away.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gosuckonalemon


    correct me if i am wrong but as far as i know people with arthritis are supposed to take 2 solpadol (the prescription one) a day (or when the pain gets bad which can be daily). isn't it part of arthritis that they are one of the many tablets they are supposed to take for the condition along with calcium tablets and other such meds.

    Arthritis is an auto-immune, chronic inflammatory condition. The most suited drugs would therefore be anti-inflammatories (NSAIDS) such as ibuprofen, diclofenac, as opposed to analgesics such as paracetamol/codeine combinations.

    Yes Solpadol will provide pain relief but will not be as effective as NSAIDS to reduce inflammation. It is by no means a first line treatment in arthritis.

    Also calcium has nothing to do with the treatment of arthritis. Calcium is used to strenghten bones in post-menopausal and elderly women as well as those who are on long term steroid treatments. This is to prevent fractures.

    Arthritis isn't a disease of the bone, it's an inflammatory disease of the joints.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gosuckonalemon


    I think the bigger question is does it matter that they're addicted? Opiates aren't that serious a thing to be addicted to, especially in old age..
    These elderly women won't have to go through a withdrawal stage and regular use wont damage their bodies to the extent where it's not worth the pain relief.

    If I have to take medication to keep my heart running everyday, would you say I've an addiction? I don't see any difference with that and using codeine everyday in old age to keep pain away.

    You made a fair enough point about codeine use in the elderly. However the piece in bold is one of the most absurd questions I've ever seen!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭deelite


    I overheard the chemist say to a customer (who was on antibiotics and in pain - he even showed the chemist the tablets) that "he only gives out 12 and doesn't give out 24 solphadine". The fella asked was it due to the tablets he was taking and the chemist said "no I just give out 12's". Is this another new rule.


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You made a fair enough point about codeine use in the elderly. However the piece in bold is one of the most absurd questions I've ever seen!

    Haha maybe.. It made sense in my head when I typed it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,682 ✭✭✭confusticated


    GV_NRG wrote: »
    ive been in pretty bad shape witha double chest infection for the last 6 weeks so my doctor gave me DF118... adult dosage 60 or 90 mg a day.. im 17 btw.. anyway my point is, the chemist gave it to me know problem at all!

    I assume from this that you had a prescription for it from the doctor? There's no problem if you've a prescription, it's when people are looking for them OTC that they're having problems getting them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gosuckonalemon


    deelite wrote: »
    I overheard the chemist say to a customer (who was on antibiotics and in pain - he even showed the chemist the tablets) that "he only gives out 12 and doesn't give out 24 solphadine". The fella asked was it due to the tablets he was taking and the chemist said "no I just give out 12's". Is this another new rule.

    A rule made up by that Pharmacist. He's entitled to sell whatever pack size he wants in his own shop.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭deelite


    A rule made up by that Pharmacist. He's entitled to sell whatever pack size he wants in his own shop.

    But he doesn't own it it was the large overseas branch which is what puzzled me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gosuckonalemon


    deelite wrote: »
    But he doesn't own it it was the large overseas branch which is what puzzled me.

    Think you may have simply misoverheard then! No reason why someone would sell 12's only as policy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    wyndham wrote: »
    Hope they don't start doing this with Calpol. I can't get enough of that sweet stuff.

    Lovely on vanilla ice cream :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭yammycat


    Think you may have simply misoverheard then! No reason why someone would sell 12's only as policy.

    Funny thing is with everything else most pharmacies haave an in house rule of offer the biggest pack first then see if the customer want a smaller pack or even knows there is a smaller pack


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    Me: Can I have some nurofen plus please.
    Chemist: No.
    Me: Please.
    Chemist: Okay. *Hands over nurofen*
    Me: I'll take 90 D10's with that as well, i'll be back in a week....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gosuckonalemon


    CorkMan wrote: »
    Me: Can I have some nurofen plus please.
    Chemist: No.
    Me: Please.
    Chemist: Okay. *Hands over nurofen*
    Me: I'll take 90 D10's with that as well, i'll be back in a week....

    Based on the sh.it you spout in 95% of your posts on boards I think the only medicine you'd be likely to pick up (or should pick up) is some Zyprexa...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    Lightshow wrote: »
    Again, there was no attitude on my behalf. I was a thorough gentleman throughout. And as for looking out for my welfare, I was clearly in distress and in considerable pain. How is selling me an inferior product to quench my obvious pain looking out for my welfare? This was a power trip, nothing else. Don't assume you know anything about my attitude during an event which you weren't present for.
    I read your previous posts, your attitude was fairly plain. A 'thorough gentleman' ? Then why describe her as 'this little bitch' or 'some brat barely out of college' ?
    She may have been erring on the side of caution but she obviously felt she had reasons to do so, and reading your original post it seems you gave her those reasons when she offered you another option which you refused. Simple really. She's way more qualified than you are, and you assume you're being offered an inferior product even though you haven't tried it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    So inanyways, you can just buy these online any time you fancy it. Cheaper than buying them in a chemist too.

    /thread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Aishae


    buying meds online is risky though. you cant guarantee the source of the meds - if theyre from the company and whats in them.

    to be fair to chemists - you might feel you have a perfectly valid reason for buying the meds and know you arent abusing them but without a few questions, the chemist doesn't know any of that. they dont know you from adam and the people who abuse the meds usually look the same as everyone else. they dont look like junkies unless they are also a junkie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭123balltv


    I have sciatica its the most horrific pain I've ever experience I've been
    refused nurofen plus before its the best pain reliever for sciatica.
    I had'nt got the strength to go the chemist so got my Dad to get me some it makes me mad they give out everything to junkies I've seen them
    there too afraid to say no.

    I'm sick of no fault of my own yet I get nothing :(

    Junkies who make themselves sick get tablets no probs :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    If you have an ongoing or recurrent medical issue you should have raised this with your gp.
    While not for pain med I receive a rolling script from the hse under the long term illness plan. You should look into that.
    The system is in place to stop people self mediating.

    If you have chronic recurring pain or a bleeding anus, you go to your,doctor. You don't just go the chem and grab the strongest non script painkiller on the market, a bag of cotton buds and hope for the best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Milky Moo


    I've had a pain for my entire life, ive gone for scans, had blood tests done and have seen specialist...

    The diagonsis is basically you are prone to this, there is no cure, so when it happens take a pain killer and wait for it pass.

    I had it this weekend: I asked my boyf to go get me a few things in the chemist and to please get something with codeine. The chemist was having none of it saying paracetemol is just as good.. BOLLICKS!

    I had to spend an extra day in pain cos the paracetemol is so weak!
    This only happens once in awhile. I don't wanna spend 70euro just to go to a doctor who will say the exact same thing as the specialist and doctors that I have already paid have said!
    It annoys me so much, I am prone to this pain, i get it maybe 2 or 3 times a year and when I get it I am unable to use pretty tame painkillers to dull it until it passes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭cassid


    Nevore wrote: »
    If you have an ongoing or recurrent medical issue you should have raised this with your gp.
    While not for pain med I receive a rolling script from the hse under the long term illness plan. You should look into that.
    The system is in place to stop people self mediating.

    If you have chronic recurring pain or a bleeding anus, you go to your,doctor. You don't just go the chem and grab the strongest non script painkiller on the market, a bag of cotton buds and hope for the best.

    can u get a rolling script even if it is not on the official long term illness plan ? thanks


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gosuckonalemon


    cassid wrote: »
    can u get a rolling script even if it is not on the official long term illness plan ? thanks

    Only if you suffer from one of these..

    Acute Leukaemia
    Mental handicap
    Cerebral Palsy
    Mental Illness (in a person under 16)
    Cystic Fibrosis
    Multiple Sclerosis
    Diabetes Insipidus
    Muscular Dystrophies
    Diabetes Mellitus
    Parkinsonism
    Epilepsy
    Phenylketonuria
    Haemophilia
    Spina Bifida
    Hydrocephalus
    Conditions arising from the use of Thalidomide


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭123balltv


    Nevore wrote: »
    If you have an ongoing or recurrent medical issue you should have raised this with your gp.
    While not for pain med I receive a rolling script from the hse under the long term illness plan. You should look into that.
    The system is in place to stop people self mediating.

    If you have chronic recurring pain or a bleeding anus, you go to your,doctor. You don't just go the chem and grab the strongest non script painkiller on the market, a bag of cotton buds and hope for the best.

    €60 for a gp no way I can barely afford the fiver for a packet of nurofen plus went to the doctor last year diagnosed with sciatica so I know whats wrong with me get these pains on and off codeine works


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭whiteonion


    I think codeine pills should be prescription only, or preferably banned. There are enough opiate junkies out there as is. If you need these kinds of drugs frequently you're probably an addict.


  • Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    whiteonion wrote: »
    I think codeine pills should be prescription only, or preferably banned. There are enough opiate junkies out there as is. If you need these kinds of drugs frequently you're probably an addict.

    ....or suffer from chronic pain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭whiteonion


    ....or suffer from chronic pain.
    Then you're probably living a very unhealthy lifestyle.


  • Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    whiteonion wrote: »
    Then you're probably living a very unhealthy lifestyle.

    Presume much? There are many, many conditions which can cause chronic pain which are completley unrelated to unhealthy lifestyles.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Presume much? There are many, many conditions which can cause chronic pain which are completley unrelated to unhealthy lifestyles.

    Dont feed the troll. Read his post history.


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