Why (oh why) do Irish people use "bring" instead of "take"?

gingernut79 · 19-03-2011 02:33PM

I havent looked this up or anything but this would seem the logical way to think about the two words. Still i'm not sure whether I'd say Bring me to work or Take me to work.

Bring = towards, Bring me that wool
Take = Away from. Take the tray.

tan11ie · 19-03-2011 02:36PM

I got the first one wrong:rolleyes: so shoot me!

krudler · 19-03-2011 02:37PM

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Among other things, bring means "to come conveying".

In Ireland we are always bringing things when we should, strictly speaking, be taking them.

Are you a bringer or a taker?

Here's a brief online explanation and usage test: http://www.ecenglish.com/learnenglish/lessons/bring-vs-take

Please post your score here.

Depends on the guy.

wait...whats this about?

EverEvolving · 19-03-2011 02:38PM

tan11ie wrote: »

I got the first one wrong:rolleyes: so shoot me!

Bang bang

tan11ie · 19-03-2011 02:42PM

EverEvolving wrote: »

Bang bang

:eek: *that's my dying face*

Krusader · 19-03-2011 02:50PM

Its to do with this word 'Tabhair'
which means- take/bring/give

and has been translated into Hiberno-English this way

nomdeboardie · 19-03-2011 02:51PM

Bring it on...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTLxKJCYYjE

ScumLord · 19-03-2011 03:01PM

Everyone who read this thread gains 2 literacy points.

10 out of 10. :cool:

nomdeboardie · 19-03-2011 03:08PM

Something that does my head in is the Northern use of the word "whenever" for "when" :eek:

The J Stands for Jay · 19-03-2011 03:09PM

superfish wrote: »

Irish say tree instead of three, they say shtick instead of stick, they say sangwitch instead of sandwich and a pair of scissors is a scissors, a pencil sharpener is a topper. seems to me the english language was lost in translation ye feckin potato eatin eejits

I really hate this stereotype. People don't talk like this everywhere in Ireland. I'd never heard of a 'pencil topper' before last year, and have never heard someone say sangwitch except in slagging GAA fans.

Precious flower · 19-03-2011 04:06PM

Got the first one wrong goddamit!:p Still got 9 out 10 though!:D

Skerries · 19-03-2011 04:19PM

why are people giving their score out of 10 when there are only 6 questions?

Jakkass wrote: »

9/10 got the first one wrong apparently.

ScumLord wrote:

Everyone who read this thread gains 2 literacy points.

10 out of 10.

Precious Flower wrote:

Got the first one wrong goddamit! Still got 9 out 10 though!

Eve_Dublin · 19-03-2011 04:22PM

RachaelVO wrote: »

I believe it's called HibernoEnglish and we do it all the time and we have pharses
that no other english speaking country in the world has.

Fail to see that it's that big a deal, there is "local" english everywhere

Exactamundo. And I love that we have our own distinct grammar usage...I'm particularly fond of the use of the present continuous and after such as, "I'm after eating all the cake" instead of using the past simple and just, "I just ate all the cake". That's the beauty of English...it's much more flexible than a lot of languages and you can play around with it (within reason). Dialects of the language are not "wrong", it's just a different way of expressing ourselves. We've made it our own to some degree.

I teach English and I have to watch myself sometimes. Confuses the hell out of the Spaniards.

RachaelVO · 19-03-2011 05:04PM

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

Exactamundo. And I love that we have our own distinct grammar usage...I'm particularly fond of the use of the present continuous and after such as, "I'm after eating all the cake" instead of using the past simple and just, "I just ate all the cake". That's the beauty of English...it's much more flexible than a lot of languages and you can play around with it (within reason). Dialects of the language are not "wrong", it's just a different way of expressing ourselves. We've made it our own to some degree.

I teach English and I have to watch myself sometimes. Confuses the hell out of the Spaniards.

Love that explanation, and I totally agree!

Saila · 19-03-2011 05:08PM

bring it honey/biatch just doesnt sound right

johnmcdnl · 19-03-2011 05:13PM

Grammar Nazi's are pricks

davef1000 · 19-03-2011 05:22PM

Having taken the test and read (most of) the thread, 'bring' no longer looks like a real word To me anymore.

Iwannahurl · 19-03-2011 10:05PM

Skerries wrote: »

why are people giving their score out of 10 when there are only 6 questions?

Hiberno-arithmetic?

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

I teach English and I have to watch myself sometimes. Confuses the hell out of the Spaniards.

I taught English in Spain years ago. I met a guy from Limerick there once who was, without really being aware of it, teaching very colloquial Hiberno-English to unsuspecting Spaniards. "My leg is at me..." It was only when he showed his own original teaching materials to some English people that he discovered his approach was 'non-standard'.

johnmcdnl wrote: »

Grammar Nazi's are prick's

FYP.

futonic · 19-03-2011 10:42PM

100%

op I think your hypothesis is misfounded.

Eve_Dublin · 19-03-2011 10:51PM

Iwannahurl wrote: »

I taught English in Spain years ago. I met a guy from Limerick there once who was, without really being aware of it, teaching very colloquial Hiberno-English to unsuspecting Spaniards. "My leg is at me..." It was only when he showed his own original teaching materials to some English people that he discovered his approach was 'non-standard'.

The problem is, it's hard to know which is Hiberno and which is standard. I don't actually know sometimes. We were doing phrasal verbs a few weeks ago and we talked about, "Tell off" and I told them another way of saying it was, "Give out". Did a bit of rooting around because I was starting to doubt myself when none of the students ever heard it before and I hadn't seen that one mentioned in any of the reference books or websites...turns out it's a special IRISH phrasal verb. Woopsadaisy!

I'm very pleased that I've got most of my students saying, "Thoooorsday" like a proper true blue Dub.

Iwannahurl · 19-03-2011 11:39PM

I know a TEFL teacher who teaches this Irish classic to all her students. Now that must be fun...

joshrogan · 20-03-2011 12:12AM

I've brought alot in from this thread...

Daegerty · 20-03-2011 12:52AM

Strange to see all this anti-Irish sentiment on what is supposed to be an Irish forum

Agonist · 20-03-2011 01:01AM

I've ___ my car with me.
a. brought
b. took

Surely b. should be "taken"?
If not, I think the first option should be "brang".

Poor Craythur · 20-03-2011 01:46AM

I got 4 out of 6 correct.

Daegerty · 20-03-2011 01:48AM

Agonist wrote: »

Surely b. should be "taken"?
If not, I think the first option should be "brang".

I dragged the fecking car along with me.

Joe10000 · 20-03-2011 01:51AM

I used to have a big hang up about such things but over time learned that the spoken word is only there to allow us to communicate our message so there are no rules once the message is communicated.

uch · 20-03-2011 02:55AM

I brung both me bags

Skerries · 20-03-2011 03:36AM

i actually heard this in a comedy show and totally believe in it
the key to communication is brevity

murpho999 · 20-03-2011 06:30AM

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Hiberno-arithmetic?

Originally Posted by johnmcdnl
Grammar Nazi's are prick's

FYP.

I hope that was a joke because the apostrophe in "prick's" is definitely wrong there!

Why (oh why) do Irish people use "bring" instead of "take"?

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