Why (oh why) do Irish people use "bring" instead of "take"?

Iwannahurl

Among other things, bring means "to come conveying".

In Ireland we are always bringing things when we should, strictly speaking, be taking them.

Are you a bringer or a taker?

Here's a brief online explanation and usage test: http://www.ecenglish.com/learnenglish/lessons/bring-vs-take

Please post your score here.

The leave vs let thing is what bothers me...
"please leave me know"
"they should leave them go home"
"just leave me sit down"

IT DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE


p.s. I got full marks on your test OP

amacachi

Can you ___ me to the station?
Correct!
take
bring

I've ___ my car with me.
Correct!
took
brought

Would you mind ___ your newspaper over here?
Correct!
bringing
taking

She wants you to ___ her away from here.
Correct!
take
bring

When you come to my house ___ your sister with you.
Correct!
take
bring

If you go shopping, remember to ___ your credit card with you.
Correct!
take
bring

TPD

Correctamundo - would probably be different if they'd put the test before the explanation though.

barbarians

I only got one wrong.

What difference does it make anyway, they both sound fine to me.

phasers

Irish people do that because there stupid

Weather or not their doing it on purpus is inclear.

amacachi

TPD wrote: »

Correctamundo - would probably be different if they'd put the test before the explanation though.

I copied and pasted it to show I'd answered straightaway. TBH as I was doing it I doubted a few but it turns out I'm smarter than I thought. :pac:

minikin

I just brought your little test there... got all the answers right.... take 'em on biatches.

amacachi

barbarians wrote: »

I only got one wrong.

What difference does it make anyway, they both sound fine to me.

"Bring" is a far better word anyway, got a couple of nice sounds in it.

Partridge007

isn't 'taker' like a slang word amongst the gay community?

ejmaztec

phasers wrote: »

Irish people do that because there stupid

Weather or not their doing it on purpus is inclear.

Stop bringing the piss!

mike65

Its due to the sentence structure as Gaeilge I think.

superfish

Irish say tree instead of three, they say shtick instead of stick, they say sangwitch instead of sandwich and a pair of scissors is a scissors, a pencil sharpener is a topper. seems to me the english language was lost in translation ye feckin potato eatin eejits

AnonoBoy

"Will you bring/take me to the station?"

Correct translation:

Any chance of a lift down the train stop boss?

Agricola

Every Saturday evening I get a fish n chip in the local bringaway

AnonoBoy

superfish wrote: »

Irish say tree instead of three, they say shtick instead of stick, they say sangwitch instead of sandwich and a pair of scissors is a scissors, a pencil sharpener is a topper. seems to me the english language was lost in translation ye feckin potato eatin eejits

That's pronunciation mostly not incorrect grammar which is what the OP is talking about.

Reading comprehension not your strongest point eh hotshot?

philologos

I got the first one wrong apparently.

I suspect the most popular grammatical mistakes today will be a part of common English in a few decades time. Language shifts and changes according to common usage.

im invisible

Every Saturday evening I get a fish n chip in the local bringaway

and then watch that new show 'Bring me out'

phasers

superfish wrote: »

Irish say tree instead of three, they say shtick instead of stick, they say sangwitch instead of sandwich and a pair of scissors is a scissors, a pencil sharpener is a topper. seems to me the english language was lost in translation ye feckin potato eatin eejits

No, it's a parer.

A topper is one of those things you get for free from a box of cornflakes.

Like these guys.

RachaelVO

I believe it's called HibernoEnglish and we do it all the time and we have pharses
that no other english speaking country in the world has.

Fail to see that it's that big a deal, there is "local" english everywhere

the keen edge

superfish wrote: »

Irish say tree instead of three, they say shtick instead of stick, they say sangwitch instead of sandwich and a pair of scissors is a scissors, a pencil sharpener is a topper. seems to me the english language was lost in translation ye feckin potato eatin eejits

I find it most humorous that you have mistaken incorrect pronunciation for incorrect word usage.

I laugh heartily at your poor grasp of the structure of the English language old chap.

yoursaviour1989

phasers wrote: »

Irish people do that because there stupid

Weather or not their doing it on purpus is inclear.

Pot, meet kettle

m@cc@

yoursaviour1989 wrote: »

Pot, meet kettle

I hope that was ironic. Sadly, I fear not.

Mr Benevolent

Grammar Nazi forum tbh.

Someone will take you there now.

superfish

jesus lads ya awful easy to wind up

Xivilai

I got the first and last one wrong

FTGFOP

bluewolf wrote: »

The leave vs let thing is what bothers me...
"please leave me know"
"they should leave them go home"
"just leave me sit down"

IT DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE

By your leave.

sollar

Not speaking the queens english properly you should be ashamed of yourselves

oppenheimer1

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Among other things, bring means "to come conveying".

In Ireland we are always bringing things when we should, strictly speaking, be taking them.

Are you a bringer or a taker?

Here's a brief online explanation and usage test: http://www.ecenglish.com/learnenglish/lessons/bring-vs-take

Please post your score here.

why (oh why) does it continually have to be pointed out that it's hiberno english.
:rolleyes:

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

superfish wrote: »

Irish say tree instead of three, they say shtick instead of stick, they say sangwitch instead of sandwich and a pair of scissors is a scissors, a pencil sharpener is a topper. seems to me the english language was lost in translation ye feckin potato eatin eejits

Topper sounds like something a Beano character would say.

Dionysus

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Among other things, bring means "to come conveying".

In Ireland we are always bringing things when we should, strictly speaking, be taking them.

Are you a bringer or a taker?

Here's a brief online explanation and usage test: http://www.ecenglish.com/learnenglish/lessons/bring-vs-take

Please post your score here.

hehe. Me Mammy's online!

gingernut79

I havent looked this up or anything but this would seem the logical way to think about the two words. Still i'm not sure whether I'd say Bring me to work or Take me to work.

Bring = towards, Bring me that wool
Take = Away from. Take the tray.

tan11ie

I got the first one wrong:rolleyes: so shoot me!

krudler

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Among other things, bring means "to come conveying".

In Ireland we are always bringing things when we should, strictly speaking, be taking them.

Are you a bringer or a taker?

Here's a brief online explanation and usage test: http://www.ecenglish.com/learnenglish/lessons/bring-vs-take

Please post your score here.

Depends on the guy.


wait...whats this about?

EverEvolving

tan11ie wrote: »

I got the first one wrong:rolleyes: so shoot me!

Bang bang

tan11ie

EverEvolving wrote: »

Bang bang

:eek: *that's my dying face*

Krusader

Its to do with this word 'Tabhair'
which means- take/bring/give

and has been translated into Hiberno-English this way

nomdeboardie

Bring it on...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTLxKJCYYjE

ScumLord

Everyone who read this thread gains 2 literacy points.

10 out of 10. :cool:

nomdeboardie

Something that does my head in is the Northern use of the word "whenever" for "when" :eek:

The J Stands for Jay

superfish wrote: »

Irish say tree instead of three, they say shtick instead of stick, they say sangwitch instead of sandwich and a pair of scissors is a scissors, a pencil sharpener is a topper. seems to me the english language was lost in translation ye feckin potato eatin eejits

I really hate this stereotype. People don't talk like this everywhere in Ireland. I'd never heard of a 'pencil topper' before last year, and have never heard someone say sangwitch except in slagging GAA fans.

Precious flower

Got the first one wrong goddamit!:p Still got 9 out 10 though!:D

Skerries

why are people giving their score out of 10 when there are only 6 questions?

Jakkass wrote: »

9/10 got the first one wrong apparently.

ScumLord wrote:

Everyone who read this thread gains 2 literacy points.

10 out of 10.

Precious Flower wrote:

Got the first one wrong goddamit! Still got 9 out 10 though!

Eve_Dublin

RachaelVO wrote: »

I believe it's called HibernoEnglish and we do it all the time and we have pharses
that no other english speaking country in the world has.

Fail to see that it's that big a deal, there is "local" english everywhere

Exactamundo. And I love that we have our own distinct grammar usage...I'm particularly fond of the use of the present continuous and after such as, "I'm after eating all the cake" instead of using the past simple and just, "I just ate all the cake". That's the beauty of English...it's much more flexible than a lot of languages and you can play around with it (within reason). Dialects of the language are not "wrong", it's just a different way of expressing ourselves. We've made it our own to some degree.

I teach English and I have to watch myself sometimes. Confuses the hell out of the Spaniards.

RachaelVO

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

Exactamundo. And I love that we have our own distinct grammar usage...I'm particularly fond of the use of the present continuous and after such as, "I'm after eating all the cake" instead of using the past simple and just, "I just ate all the cake". That's the beauty of English...it's much more flexible than a lot of languages and you can play around with it (within reason). Dialects of the language are not "wrong", it's just a different way of expressing ourselves. We've made it our own to some degree.

I teach English and I have to watch myself sometimes. Confuses the hell out of the Spaniards.

Love that explanation, and I totally agree!

Saila

bring it honey/biatch just doesnt sound right

johnmcdnl

Grammar Nazi's are pricks

davef1000

Having taken the test and read (most of) the thread, 'bring' no longer looks like a real word To me anymore.

Iwannahurl

Skerries wrote: »

why are people giving their score out of 10 when there are only 6 questions?

Hiberno-arithmetic?

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

I teach English and I have to watch myself sometimes. Confuses the hell out of the Spaniards.

I taught English in Spain years ago. I met a guy from Limerick there once who was, without really being aware of it, teaching very colloquial Hiberno-English to unsuspecting Spaniards. "My leg is at me..." It was only when he showed his own original teaching materials to some English people that he discovered his approach was 'non-standard'.

johnmcdnl wrote: »

Grammar Nazi's are prick's

FYP.

futonic

100%

op I think your hypothesis is misfounded.

Eve_Dublin

Iwannahurl wrote: »

I taught English in Spain years ago. I met a guy from Limerick there once who was, without really being aware of it, teaching very colloquial Hiberno-English to unsuspecting Spaniards. "My leg is at me..." It was only when he showed his own original teaching materials to some English people that he discovered his approach was 'non-standard'.

The problem is, it's hard to know which is Hiberno and which is standard. I don't actually know sometimes. We were doing phrasal verbs a few weeks ago and we talked about, "Tell off" and I told them another way of saying it was, "Give out". Did a bit of rooting around because I was starting to doubt myself when none of the students ever heard it before and I hadn't seen that one mentioned in any of the reference books or websites...turns out it's a special IRISH phrasal verb. Woopsadaisy!

I'm very pleased that I've got most of my students saying, "Thoooorsday" like a proper true blue Dub.