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Counillor to make formal complaint to Gardai about Ming.

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  • #152
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Wile E. Coyote wrote: »
    Since when is cannabis a victimless crime?

    Do you even know the basis for this thread?
    Ming grows and smokes his own.


  • #153
    Einhard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Craebear wrote: »
    I find myself wondering this. Imagine it's 1990 again, homosexuality is illegal. Would you say that a gay politician should stop being gay or face persecution?

    I know the comparison is a bit wonky, but the point is : Illegal is not the same as wrong.

    I'm not stating that it is. I am uncomfortable though, with the notion that people can pick and choose the laws they're going to obey.


  • #154
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Wile E. Coyote wrote: »
    Since when is cannabis a victimless crime?

    :pac:


  • #155
    Tahuti
    Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭Tahuti


    Einhard wrote: »
    It's called democracy.

    When did the people last vote on the drug laws?


  • #156
    HavingCrack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    Is it possible to start a petition similar to the US states to force cannabis legalisation be put to a referendum in Ireland? Or are we stuck with whatever the feelings of the Fine Gael and Labour TD's are on the subject?


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  • #157
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Tahuti wrote: »
    When did the people last vote on the drug laws?

    nobody here was even alive when the yanks forced everyone to ban it.


  • #158
    BluePlanet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,453 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    I've read there's a law against Witchcraft here in Ireland:
    • Any person who shall pretend or exercise to use any type of witchcraft, sorcery, enchantment, or pretend knowledge in any occult or or craft or science shall for any such offense suffer imprisonment at the time of one whole year and also shall be obliged to obscursion for his/her good behavior.
    Should the gardai confiscate boards.ie servers since there is a Wicca forum?


  • #159
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    BluePlanet wrote: »
    I've read there's a law against Witchcraft here in Ireland:
    • Any person who shall pretend or exercise to use any type of witchcraft, sorcery, enchantment, or pretend knowledge in any occult or or craft or science shall for any such offense suffer imprisonment at the time of one whole year and also shall be obliged to obscursion for his/her good behavior.
    Should the gardai confiscate boards.ie servers since there is a Wicca forum?

    What about my level 80 mage!!! :eek:


  • #160
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,797 ✭✭✭karma_


    Einhard wrote: »
    Well great. And now Ming has a chance to change the law. It's called democracy. Until it's changed though, is it too much to ask that people obey legislation passed by a democratic institution?

    Stupid legislation is still stupid legislation even if it is passed by a democratic institution, why is that concept so difficult for you to grasp?


  • #161
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    RichieC wrote: »
    nobody here was even alive when the yanks forced everyone to ban it.

    I say we stick with the Yanks ideas............. shur' they were spot-on with the alcohol prohibition a while back...


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  • #162
    Einhard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Tahuti wrote: »
    When did the people last vote on the drug laws?

    Oh for God's sake, get real. I stated that those who wish to legislate for drugs can run for parliament, as Ming did, with legalisation as part of their platform. Once there, they can use that democratic institution to change the laws. The law isn't immuntable. If enough people want it changed, they can do so legislatively. That's democracy.


  • #163
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    mikom wrote: »
    I say we stick with the Yanks ideas............. shur' they were spot-on with the alcohol prohibition a while back...

    yea the world will forever be plagued by fking NASCAR because of that :mad:


    Oh and the mob.. yea the mob..


  • #164
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,797 ✭✭✭karma_


    Einhard wrote: »
    Oh for God's sake, get real. I stated that those who wish to legislate for drugs can run for parliament, as Ming did, with legalisation as part of their platform. Once there, they can use that democratic institution to change the laws. The law isn't immuntable. If enough people want it changed, they can do so legislatively. That's democracy.

    Know what else is democracy, two racists and a black man arguing over who should hang.


  • #165
    Wile E. Coyote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Wile E. Coyote


    karma_ wrote: »
    Since you grow and smoke your own.

    Do you grow and smoke your own or do you buy it from the same drug dealers who are commiting murder up and down the country every week?


  • #166
    Einhard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    karma_ wrote: »
    Stupid legislation is still stupid legislation even if it is passed by a democratic institution, why is that concept so difficult for you to grasp?

    Why is it so difficult for you to grasp that it's not generally a good idea for people to be able to decide to ignore laws with which they have a problem? Democracy isn't perfect; it is though, the best system we have. And I'm sorry if I dislike the idea of people ignoring whatever laws they dislike.


  • #167
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Haven't read all the other posts but I will say this; it comes as no surprise to hear that a Fianna Failer by the namer of John Coonan is griping about something.
    If one of their own was so open and honest, he would be shutting up - but seeing as this is just an opportunistic chance for him to sound off, have a go at someone that might be stealing a seat away from his disgusting organisation, then is come as no shock to find this sad sod jumping on an opportunity to rave off.

    His time would be better spent looking after his people close to home and their problems (what he is actually a Councillor for!) - than sounding like a gobschite with a chip on his shoulder and one sad, sad man.


  • #168
    Einhard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    karma_ wrote: »
    Know what else is democracy, two racists and a black man arguing over who should hang.
    :confused:

    Seriously


  • #169
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Wile E. Coyote wrote: »
    Do you grow and smoke your own or do you buy it from the same drug dealers who are commiting murder up and down the country every week?

    A guard wouldn't ask you that....


  • #170
    Einhard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Biggins wrote: »
    His time would be better spent looking after his people close to home and their problems (what he is actually a Councillor for!) - when sounding like a gobschite and one sad man.

    Maybe his constituents have a problem with people ignoring the law?


  • #171
    whoopdedoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭whoopdedoo


    k_mac wrote: »
    Why didn't you say so? Well I'm off raping so. I know it's technically illegal but I dont believe women should have the right to say no.:rolleyes:

    127 replies in and someone makes the threatening stance they're going to go rape someone! silly silly person


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  • #172
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    BluePlanet wrote: »
    I've read there's a law against Witchcraft here in Ireland:
    • Any person who shall pretend or exercise to use any type of witchcraft, sorcery, enchantment, or pretend knowledge in any occult or or craft or science shall for any such offense suffer imprisonment at the time of one whole year and also shall be obliged to obscursion for his/her good behavior.
    Should the gardai confiscate boards.ie servers since there is a Wicca forum?

    I've read about that too. Never seen any evidence of its existence though.


  • #173
    HavingCrack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    Einhard wrote: »
    Oh for God's sake, get real. I stated that those who wish to legislate for drugs can run for parliament, as Ming did, with legalisation as part of their platform. Once there, they can use that democratic institution to change the laws. The law isn't immuntable. If enough people want it changed, they can do so legislatively. That's democracy.

    It is not democracy. It is a form of democracy known as 'representative' democracy. Effectively a group of people, in Ireland's case TD's, are elected and then effectively get to vote whatever way they want on specific laws. I feel direct democracy such as that used in Switzerland and some US states such as California is much fairer. In those cases if enough signatures are gathered for a petition it is put to a referendum of the people, not TD's.


  • #174
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    whoopdedoo wrote: »
    127 replies in and someone makes the threatening stance they're going to go rape someone! silly silly person

    Threatening stance? Didn't you see the rolleyes?


  • #175
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Biggins wrote: »
    Haven't read all the other posts but I will say this; it comes as no surprise to hear that a Fianna Failer by the namer of John Coonan is griping about something.
    His time would be better spent looking after his people close to home and their problems (what he is actually a Councillor for!) - than sounding like a gobschite with a chip on his shoulder and one sad, sad man.

    He has time to help his son run the local casino though....
    IT'S like the elephant in the room. No one is willing to address the matter yet all the politicians are talking about it. Since his recent retirement as a pyschiatric nurse Cllr John Coonan, perennial poll-topper for Fianna Fáil in Kilkenny city, has been giving a hand out at the city's only casino, located in the Village Inn complex on Upper Patrick Street
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BrXpRzHpYVAJ:www.kilkennypeople.ie/14390/The-Insider-Cllr-Coonan-and.4614189.jp+John+Coonan+casino&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.ie


  • #176
    120_Minutes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    Wile E. Coyote wrote: »
    Do you grow and smoke your own or do you buy it from the same drug dealers who are commiting murder up and down the country every week?

    I try my best to know where my stuff is coming from. its not always possible. I have been lucky that for the past while that i know exactly where my cannabis originates, because its the right thing to do, i know that theres no gangland element involved, and that my stash isnt contaminated to ****.

    the fact i can counter arguments like yours is a bonus though.


  • #177
    Einhard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    mikom wrote: »
    He has time to help his son run the local casino though....

    What's wrong with that? Is it illegal?


  • #178
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    So now we have people above the law have we.?

    If that idiot is breaking the law, he should be charged and punished.

    It's idiots like this who give Politics a bad name and give the impression that they are above the law.

    Turning blind eyes to this rubbish is stupid, does nobody any good.

    What, like TD's who try and drive home drunk and threaten the jobs of Garda who stop them?

    FF are lolz.


  • #179
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Einhard wrote: »
    What's wrong with that? Is it illegal?

    Nope, but quite ironic.


  • #180
    Einhard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    HavingCrack wrote: »
    It is not democracy. It is a form of democracy known as 'representative' democracy.

    It's rare to see someone contradict themselves so fully in such a short space of time.


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  • #181
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,797 ✭✭✭karma_


    Einhard wrote: »
    What's wrong with that? Is it illegal?

    Maybe his time would be better spent on working for his constituents was the point I believe.


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