Counillor to make formal complaint to Gardai about Ming.

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

So now we have people above the law have we.?

That idiot - Bertie Ahern broke the law, he should be charged and punished.

It's idiots like this who give Politics a bad name and give the impression that they are above the law.

Turning blind eyes to this rubbish is stupid, does nobody any good.

Fixed your post.

Bertie Ahern did more damage than Ming will ever do.

Bertie Ahern helped himself to the states chequebook. Just recently it was reported that Bertie spent 220,000 euro doing up his office. Thats fraud and theft of the taxpayers money of the highest degree. People are happy to roll around with such exploitation and let that fcuker away free.

If it was bertie doing cannabis he would have joints shoved up his hole to hide them and deny everything. Ming is honest. He is a breath of fresh air. Also for anyone comparing cannabis to hardcore drugs - its stupidity.

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

I think the point your missing is that it's illegal. The fact that he's honest about it doesn't change that fact.

Why did you pick part of my post and ignore the most fraudulent part?

ilovesleep wrote: »

Whats really happening though is someone receiving a speeding ticket for going a few miles over while the child rapist down the road is allowed away free without people batting an eyelid.

I saw my neighbour assault someone a while back. Does that mean I can drive without tax?

stimpson wrote: »

I think the point you're missing is that he's a TD. TD's are not answerable to the law like everyone else. Where would we be if we arrested a TD every time they broke the law?

TDs are not answerable for actions performed as a TD. It's a constitutional protection. Growing cannabis at home would not really fall under his work as a TD.

JimiTime wrote: »

The Laws an @ss, and this emphasises it. the judiciary, the Garda etc, don't take hash seriously, so they should just legalise it and get it over with. If they don't, then they should have the courage of their convictions and prosecute those who use/grow or whatever the law says is illegal about it.

Its the inconsistancy thats the real issue here. If you say something is againt the law, then follow through. i hate this half hearted, 'its against the law, but ye know yerself (wink)'.

To make something illegal, should mean that you feel that it poses enough of a threat to warrant protecting from it. So have some follow through, or don't make it illegal. Otherwise its this mixed message being thrown out, and it makes the law something to be obeyed sometimes, and not others.

You clearly don't know how the country works at all. The Judiciary and Gardaí have no say over what is legal and what isn't. That decision is made by politicians. Gardaí and the courts just enforce it.

ilovesleep wrote: »

Whats really happening though is someone receiving a speeding ticket for going a few miles over while the child rapist down the road is allowed away free without people batting an eyelid.

Your argument is totally false - as usual. You always seem to drag bertie, the banks et al into every argument when they have no place and is simply a tactic of misdirection. There is nothing to deny that bertie could be a crook, but Ming could also be a crook. We do not have to choose between the two who we prosecute, we can do both.

Ming has openly admitted to braking the law ie growing and possessing a controlled substance. The reason he does so is in order to be made a martyr of his cause should the state choose to prosecute. Its a calculated gamble on his part on order to change the law.

He should be prosecuted and thus in that way his case will go to the people. He might then be able to realise his goal of making the substance legal, I doubt the majority in the country would swing behind his cause (remember boards.ie doesn't reflect the population of the country by a long shot). Him being sent to prison for an extended period of time (3 months?) would make him lose his seat in the Dáil.

JimiTime wrote: »

I know that, and I understand how you may have misunderstood my post. My point is, that the law enforcers don't take it seriously at all, so THEY, being the lawmakers, should either legalise it, or have the courage of its convictions and make sure the law enforcers aren't so apathetic. The issue though, is that both the law makers and law enforcers are apathetic to it, and this makes a joke of the judicial system. Either legalise and regulate it, or take it seriously. All we have at the moment is studies, and 'oh its bad for ye, so thats why its illegal', meanwhile, their behaviour in the enforcing of the law shows that they really don't think its serious. Again, its an example of the justice system undermining itself.

The law makers shouldn't have any control or influence over the law enforcers. There is good reason for this.

ilovesleep wrote: »

No. The law is the law.
I have a problem with why should one person be more privileged than another. If one is going to bring charges against Ming for growing and smoking cannabis, one should bring charges against Bertie for being fraudulent with state expenses. Its hypocritial otherwise.

Which fraud is this?

k_mac wrote: »

Which fraud is this?

It was reported earlier in the week that bertie spent 220,000 doing up his office. Thats theft and fraud of the states expense of the highest order. No way should it cost 220000 euro. Im guessing an estimate for renovating a room shouldn't cost more than 5000. There is 215,000 in expenses gone where? What did bertie have in his office that cost 220000 euro? a nightclub perhaps?