Horrific happenings in japan - do you think charities will exploit?

LighterGuy · 13-03-2011 06:50AM #1

First off, I dont trust charities. Sure, some are legit and for the benefit of others. But I generally think most are to make money. A business of sorts. Its sad. But the world we live in. So do you think charities will take "advantage" of the recent events in Japan?

Perhaps we should do one better. Lets add a poll. I post this on 13 March 2011. A sunday. Tomorrow is monday. A business day. So when do you think you will be asked to give money to help?

and.. of course

reply back with thoughts :P

Killer Pigeon · 13-03-2011 06:53AM

Another retarded comment, brought to you by LighterGuy ...

.... Seriously donate people!!

Einhard · 13-03-2011 07:00AM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Another retarded comment, brought to you by LighterGuy ...

.... Seriously donate people!!

I wish I could thank this twice.

Seriously LighterGuy, did Trocaire rape your father and kill your mother or something?! You have one serious chip on your shoulder when it comes to charities?

LighterGuy · 13-03-2011 07:04AM

Einhard wrote: »

I wish I could thank this twice.

Seriously LighterGuy, did Trocaire rape your father and kill your mother or something?! You have one serious chip on your shoulder when it comes to charities?

At the risk of this thread being closed by my comment...

real world > me
real world > outside your window as you sit by your pc.

Aoifey! · 13-03-2011 07:07AM

LighterGuy wrote: »

Sure, some are to make money. But I generally think most are legit and for the benefit of others.

Fixed.

jay-me · 13-03-2011 07:55AM

Looking at the likes of chuggers i would say he has a fair point.. And aren't the heads of these charities loaded from the takings?

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/10/26/15-highest-paid-charity-ceos.html

PatrickD32 · 13-03-2011 08:08AM

I dont feel this is a retarded comment.

There are alot off good people in charities however there alot cream off the top.

Say retarded or work at top and see there is a divide, thinkin all charities dont have people milking it is retarded imo.

Get with the real world!

Diabhal Beag · 13-03-2011 08:18AM

OP apart from the governments and UN how do you think Japan is going to get financial aid?

gosuckonalemon · 13-03-2011 08:33AM

LighterGuy wrote: »

First off, I dont trust charities. Sure, some are legit and for the benefit of others. But I generally think most are to make money. A business of sorts. Its sad. But the world we live in. So do you think charities will take "advantage" of the recent events in Japan?

Perhaps we should do one better. Lets add a poll. I post this on 13 March 2011. A sunday. Tomorrow is monday. A business day. So when do you think you will be asked to give money to help?

and.. of course reply back with thoughts :P

Did you walk in on your mother fuc.king a Trocaire box when you were young or something?

Beaucoupfish · 13-03-2011 08:58AM

Lighter guy, You are a mean spirited prick. If you are so bothered do some research and get back to us.

dory · 13-03-2011 09:37AM

jay-me wrote: »

Looking at the likes of chuggers i would say he has a fair point.. And aren't the heads of these charities loaded from the takings?

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/10/26/15-highest-paid-charity-ceos.html

Did you even read your own link? Most of those are foundations and orchestras. Not charities out helping people in Africa.

Yes, people who work for charities get paid a normal, decent wage. The provide a professional service improving the lives of people in other countries. You don't mind people working in management in McDonalds getting paid well, but if they're influencing the lives of millions - they should get pennies. Are you serious?

Read this for more info: http://goodintents.org/choosing-a-charity/charity-ratings-based-on-administration-costs-can-do-more-harm-than-good

wyndham · 13-03-2011 09:57AM

I don't think financial aid is required in the same sense as Haiti or Chile or Indonesia. Japan is a wealthy country. It's more logistical support.

Kidchameleon · 13-03-2011 10:12AM

OP,

I don't trust them either. If I could personally hand money to a person in need then I'll gladly help, but not a single cent of my wages would fill the pocket of some fat cat CEO of a charity. They only have themselves to thank what with their chuggers and insane salaries...

silverharp · 13-03-2011 10:19AM

OP what a stupid post. Japan is one of the richest countries in the world, they dont need your cider money. Unless you have an emergency response team on standby I think youll be fine

Joe10000 · 13-03-2011 10:20AM

I don't trust them either and to answer your question I got a tweet yesterday morning asking me to donate $10 to the relief fund by Redcross.org.

Sunnyisland · 13-03-2011 10:54AM

You dont have to donate to all charities that contact you,you can ignore them.

There are numerous genuine charities out there in which i would have no problem donating in what ever way i could.

Son Of A Vidic · 13-03-2011 12:36PM

Undoubtedly there are some charities that are best avoided due to their high 'administrative costs' - 5 cent in every €1 reaching victims ect,ect. However, it's charities like Trócaire and Medicines San Frontiers ect that can be trusted.

13-03-2011 12:40PM

Oh how easy it is to post snide and mean comments sitting in front of your computer screen, hoping that the world doesn't realize just how inconsequential you really are.

Dave! · 13-03-2011 12:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh how easy it is to post snide and mean comments sitting in front of your computer screen, hoping that the world doesn't realize just how inconsequential you really are.

ouch!

Seaneh · 13-03-2011 12:45PM

yeah. Some charities have insane admin fees, like the irish red cross.
They should be avoided.

But there are charities with less than 10% going to admin fees.
I myself am involved with a charity which sends thousands of people all across the world, which feeds up to 6000 orphans every day in Swaziland, every year, and only has admin fees of 5-7% annually.

Those are the types of charities you should support.

partyatmygaff · 13-03-2011 12:55PM

Japan is a pretty wealthy country. It needs manpower and logistical support more than anything. Doctors, construction workers and all others who are necessary to help the people affected by the Earthquake and Tsunami.

Micky Dolenz · 13-03-2011 01:36PM

Beaucoupfish wrote: »

Lighter guy, You are a mean spirited prick. If you are so bothered do some research and get back to us.

Banned

doubleglaze · 13-03-2011 01:42PM

I think that OP has a point. I have considerable experience of various charities and have seen a serious amount of funds wasted - more due to bad judgement than to high corruption levels.

I would say, in retrospect, that the main charity I was ever involved in was primarily interested in its own survival and in protecting the financial interests of its paid executives than it was in anything else.

I met the wife of a retired ambassador not so long ago, a very bright and insightful woman. She said that her experience of charities in Africa was that the money was not getting through to where it was needed; that it would be best if people donated money to, for example, nuns and priests working on the ground (even though she has long since left the Catholic church herself).

Naikon · 13-03-2011 01:49PM

Unless you have the ability to audit their accounts, Charities for the most part, simply can't be trusted. If someone really wants to help, create your own fundraising campaign or sit back down. Blind faith imo.

My name is URL · 13-03-2011 01:49PM

Most of the bigger charities make no secret of the fact that they run themselves based on business models, or that those at the top are paid huge wages. You have to spend money in order to raise funds effectively and if it means that aid is delivered faster and more efficiently when it's needed then I don't see the big deal.

fabbydabby · 13-03-2011 01:51PM

Slightly off topic, but on the subject of charities, someone I know is gone to Ghana this week on one of those 'charity' holidays which I was badgered into donating to. I got a text last night, they're going surfing today.

I am all for helping out my fellow man, especially our Japanese friends who were so badly hit with this disaster, but these charity holiday things piss me off a bit.

I don't doubt the good intentions of many of the people who do this sort of thing, but sending a load of primarily inept students off to a country (which by the way apparently has mobile phone signal and other 1st world commodities) is not an efficient use of charity money, no matter what way you look at it.

You wouldn';t see a lot of these people handing out soup on Dublin's streets on their own time or reading stories to sick kids - it's bullsh*t, they just want a free trip abroad.

I would love to see figures for what this charity exactly they have achieved and how much has been spent so far.

previous user · 13-03-2011 01:52PM

Hope I'm not going too off topic here put can people join some sort of volunteer Corps. to help people over there?

Naikon · 13-03-2011 01:55PM

Boards.ie fundraiser?

Oranage2 · 13-03-2011 01:58PM

Well doubt concern will ask for money in Japan since I'm almost sure they only work in the poorest countries. To be honest Japan doesnt really need the money as much as if an earthquake hit a poorer country, though still if your money would go along way in helping.

I still dont get how people say CEOs are on massive wages. Charties bring in millions of euro each year. Troicaire make about 60million and concern over 120million. The CEOs are paid around 90k a year. So a competent person has to run them, and for the money charities deal with 90k isnt a lot of money when you consider so public workers/college lecturers/TD could be earning something similar with nowhere near as much responsibilty.

The fact people say i dont want to donate because of "such and such", its mostly you dont want to danote so stop making ignorant excusses and just say that you dont care!

Naikon · 13-03-2011 01:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh how easy it is to post snide and mean comments sitting in front of your computer screen, hoping that the world doesn't realize just how inconsequential you really are.

The above statement applies to your post too...

darragh16 · 13-03-2011 01:59PM

Time to help the Japanese. They're one of the biggest donators in the world. When the Tsunami hit Indonesia etc. they donated half a billion and provided numerous supplies. Time for everyone to help them again.

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