Good Friday sale of alcohol ban

10-03-2011 06:51PM

Dave! wrote: »

Yeah it has to be done brah

Damn you, damn you to heck!

Actually, as Mod of the non drinkers, what's your view?

State mandated no-buy-drink day a good or bad thing?

philologos · 10-03-2011 06:51PM

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Maybe its time for all religions to keep their religion in their own lives the way i keep my former fondness for Chris De Burgh and ukulele tunes in mine:o

I disagree. People should be able to share their faith freely. It isn't a "private" matter. Although I don't think we should legislate on the basis of any one given religion.

Sofiztikated · 10-03-2011 06:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Well then, why should we have bank holidays then? why can't we decide for ourselves the days off from work we can take and make extra money working during? Why should the State set down "These days are holidays"? Why not let our employers set feast days as they see fit? let the State say "employers, you must set X amount of days as Feast Days as you see fit. We expect you to give bonuses for every worker who works on those days and days in lieu and the day off for everyone else."

Like hotels then? 20 days holidays, 9 bank holidays. By no means do you get bank holidays guarenteed off.

biko · 10-03-2011 06:54PM

I'm probably not going out tomorrow, no biggie. Is Good Friday tomorrow btw?
But being anti-religion I understand why people want the ban lifted.

Ghost Buster · 10-03-2011 06:56PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Well then, why should we have bank holidays then? why can't we decide for ourselves the days off from work we can take and make extra money working during? Why should the State set down "These days are holidays"? Why not let our employers set feast days as they see fit? let the State say "employers, you must set X amount of days as Feast Days as you see fit. We expect you to give bonuses for every worker who works on those days and days in lieu and the day off for everyone else."

Well. The Scientologist community tell The State what bank holidays we should have dont they.
No they dont.
State law is State law. State law under the influence of a religious group is something else entirely.
But thanks for making my prediction come true.

This has nothing to do with people gagging for drink or health but of a religion influencing law in a democrazy (Intentionla!)

philologos · 10-03-2011 06:56PM

Its not tomorrow. It's in and around 40 days time.

Dave! · 10-03-2011 06:57PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Damn you, damn you to heck!

Actually, as Mod of the non drinkers, what's your view?

State mandated no-buy-drink day a good or bad thing?

Don't try and drag me into this! Oh okay...

I just happen to mod that forum BTW, I'm quite fond of the drink myself

I think it should be done away with myself. Modern secular countries (as should be the ideal) should not have laws that are based on religious beliefs. There's no other benefit to this day of prohibition. There's no evidence that it has any effect on alcohol consumption in general, and anecdotally I think most people know that anyone who wants to drink will just go to the offo the day before.

I don't have a problem in principle with the government having a day of prohibition for some logical reason. Like if it were an 'alcohol awareness day', where a bunch of alcohol-related support groups, etc., got a bit of a plug and had money raised, then it wouldn't be an issue. But there's no benefit to this day, it's just a relic of the past.

Wolfe Tone · 10-03-2011 06:58PM

I like the day off, leave it as it is I say

philologos · 10-03-2011 06:59PM

Ghost Buster wrote: »

This has nothing to do with people gagging for drink or health but of a religion influencing law in a democrazy (Intentionla!)

I don't mind this actually as long as the criterion for accepting legislation is based on merit. If a Muslim brings an excellent law to the Dáil on the basis of his Islamic beliefs, but it also abounds in merit, then I think that is fine. The same way in respect to any other faith or cultural group. Means of analysis is merit not which creed you follow. If elements of Torah law can be shown to be abounding in merit, I have no issue to oppose this rationally even if it is motivated by Judaism. If it is a good law it is a good law, that's all that needs to be said.

Dave! · 10-03-2011 06:59PM

biko wrote: »

I'm probably not going out tomorrow, no biggie. Is Good Friday tomorrow btw?
But being anti-religion I understand why people want the ban lifted.

I totally thought it was tomorrow also, hence why I was gonna start the thread. Once I realised it's not for a month, I said feck it and started it anyway.

Cos that's how I roll.

Sisko · 10-03-2011 07:00PM

Ghost Buster wrote: »

* sitting back and awaiting the inevitable "so feck off and dont have Christmas or Easter either ye heathens. This is a catholic country!!!*

any minute now..........:o

Nah cause christmas was just stolen from other cultures/religions anyway so to call it purly religious in this day and age doesnt work. Not like christmas trees were in the bible were they? Christmas is a celebration of capitalism, or friends and family however you wanna look at it.

Oh and Easter is about chocolate.

So no religious people can't tell me to feck off from having a tree in my house or a chocolate egg. :pac:

Dravokivich · 10-03-2011 07:02PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Well then, why should we have bank holidays then? why can't we decide for ourselves the days off from work we can take and make extra money working during? Why should the State set down "These days are holidays"? Why not let our employers set feast days as they see fit? let the State say "employers, you must set X amount of days as Feast Days as you see fit. We expect you to give bonuses for every worker who works on those days and days in lieu and the day off for everyone else."

irrelevant. many other countries also provide bank holidays. they in turn dont have their lisencing laws based on the reiligions people follow within their population.

philologos · 10-03-2011 07:03PM

Sisko wrote: »

Christmas is a celebration of capitalism, or friends and family however you wanna look at it.

Keep that until at least the end of November :pac:

Oh, and I disagree but never mind we'll talk then

10-03-2011 07:04PM

Wait, what?

Jeez GB, you're like McCarthy on about the commies.

D'you know what? religion in society is a thread in itself and needs to get a thread to itself.

Ghost Buster, do us a favour, start that thread.

smellslikeshoes · 10-03-2011 07:05PM

Would be a pity to loose the only state endorsed houseparty day of the year :pac:

Dave! · 10-03-2011 07:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Wait, what?

Jeez GB, you're like McCarthy on about the commies.

D'you know what? religion in society is a thread in itself and needs to get a thread to itself.

Ghost Buster, do us a favour, start that thread.

Those threads don't tend to end well......

Bruthal · 10-03-2011 07:08PM

biko wrote: »

I'm probably not going out tomorrow, no biggie. Is Good Friday tomorrow btw?

Ye had me wondering there for a minute.

Dravokivich · 10-03-2011 07:08PM

Dave! wrote: »

Those threads don't tend to end well......

personally... i think they are downhill from the start, long before they get to an ending...

10-03-2011 07:09PM

Dave! wrote: »

Those threads don't tend to end well......

You expect this one to be any different? :rolleyes:

Dave! · 10-03-2011 07:09PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You expect this one to be any different? :rolleyes:

Nah not really

pragmatic1 · 10-03-2011 07:10PM

Jakkass wrote: »

I disagree. People should be able to share their faith freely. It isn't a "private" matter. Although I don't think we should legislate on the basis of any one given religion.

Thats where the trouble with religion begins. Why cant it be a private matter.

10-03-2011 07:11PM

pragmatic1 wrote: »

Thats where the trouble with religion begins. Why cant it be a private matter.

It shouldn't be a private matter.

It should be an ecumenical matter!

Daegerty · 10-03-2011 07:12PM

I think it should be a whole month that no drink is allowed to be sold.

Everybody stocks up the week or 2 before. Go on a massive bender for about a week and spend the other 3 weeks recovering

philologos · 10-03-2011 07:15PM

pragmatic1 wrote: »

Thats where the trouble with religion begins. Why cant it be a private matter.

Christianity can't be "private" since it is about encouraging people to know Jesus, and to repent of their sins in order to know the truth about reality. Namely there is a God and He longs to know us. We believe that there are consequences beyond the grave for each person. We care about this and this is why we tell people about the Gospel.

It is never a "private" matter.
Freedom of expression + Freedom of religion = Free expression of religion.

Ghost Buster · 10-03-2011 07:18PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Wait, what?

Jeez GB, you're like McCarthy on about the commies.

D'you know what? religion in society is a thread in itself and needs to get a thread to itself.

Ghost Buster, do us a favour, start that thread.

Moderating again eh. Why dont you just apply for the job

Jeez Sea Slacker youre like an apologist The Irish Catholic Church.
This is about religion in society. Alcohol is banned for sale to the entire population because of one religions relationship with the state.

pragmatic1 · 10-03-2011 07:20PM

Jakkass wrote: »

Christianity can't be "private" since it is about encouraging people to know Jesus, and to repent of their sins in order to know the truth about reality. Namely there is a God and He longs to know us. We believe that there are consequences beyond the grave for each person. We care about this and this is why we tell people about the Gospel.

It is never a "private" matter.
Freedom of expression + Freedom of religion = Free expression of religion.

Surely most people already know about Jesus.

Ghost Buster · 10-03-2011 07:21PM

Jakkass wrote: »

Christianity can't be "private" since it is about encouraging people to know Jesus, and to repent of their sins in order to know the truth about reality. Namely there is a God and He longs to know us. We believe that there are consequences beyond the grave for each person. We care about this and this is why we tell people about the Gospel.

It is never a "private" matter.
Freedom of expression + Freedom of religion = Free expression of religion.

Well then. With that attitude its a good thing SeaSlackers Keyboard warrior Atheists are here to counter you. Freedom to tell you to fcuk off and keep your nose out of it.
And dont call me a sinner. Thats insulting

philologos · 10-03-2011 07:26PM

pragmatic1 wrote: »

Surely most people already know about Jesus.

You'd be surprised. I used to think I knew about Jesus and I knew some things about Jesus. I never knew Him fully though. I never appreciated what it meant until I sat down and read the Bible.

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Well then. With that attitude its a good thing SeaSlackers Keyboard warrior Atheists are here to counter you. Freedom to tell you to fcuk off and keep your nose out of it.
And dont call me a sinner. Thats insulting

Indeed, you are free to do this. Most of the time (off boards) I've had people who are actually quite interested. In fact, most of the time I don't initiate the conversation, but others whom I have known in different settings over the past few years start the conversation with me.

Ditch · 10-03-2011 07:29PM

robbie7730 wrote: »

They should change it to monday. There are not many good ones.

Yeah; I don't like mondays .....

10-03-2011 07:30PM

Ditch wrote: »

Yeah; I don't like mondays .....

Tell me why?

Good Friday sale of alcohol ban

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