PL: Liverpool v Manchester United. 6/3/2011, KO 1330.

Headshot · 06-03-2011 06:31PM

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Nani received a gash in the leg but walked out of Anfield. He'll be back soon enough I'd say.

hopefully your right

I would have my doubts thou

flahavaj · 06-03-2011 06:31PM

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

Why is Ferguson refusing to allow his team speak to the media
Sore Loser

Creating a siege mentality I'd imagine. Probably his best hope at the moment tbh. The results that have threatened several times over the season are now coming thick and fast. I'd still say we are favourites for the league - poor and all as we are, Arsenal seem equally determined not to win it either.

Get Ferdinand and Vidic back and tighten up at the back and we should be OK to win the league no one wants. We have bigger and wier problems however that need to be addressed in the Summer and beyond.

monkey9 · 06-03-2011 06:31PM

Liam O wrote: »

look at where he hit Nani, Nani's foot was planted, it's no different to either of the ones that happened to Arsenal in recent years as far as I'm concerned.

But he didn't break his leg. He has a gash!

stumpypeeps · 06-03-2011 06:32PM

flahavaj wrote: »

Creating a siege mentality I'd imagine. Probably his best hope at the moment tbh. The results that have threatened several times over the season are now coming thick and fast. I'd still say we are favourites for the league - poor and all as we are, Arsenal seem equally determined not to win it either.

Get Ferdinand and Vidic back and tighten up at the back and we should be OK to win the league no one wants. We have bigger and wier problems however that need to be addressed in the Summer and beyond.

Good post. Not like you.:p

Mr.Crinklewood · 06-03-2011 06:33PM

mixednuts wrote: »

I have no problem discussing the tackle on Nani as long as Rapheals tackle is in the same discussion .

Who?

The lack of knowledge of some people on here is shocking.

Edit:- Unless it is it turtle that you are referring to, however if this is the case considering he is a Ninja Turtle, he was probably carrying out a Ninja move. If you were referring to the Ninja turtle you spelt his name wrong.

1mcampo1 · 06-03-2011 06:33PM

Liam O wrote: »

but it wouldn't have happened if Carra had been sent off, and they are completely different. Both reds but while Rafael's was a potential leg breaker, Carragher's was a leg breaker.

But Carragher didn't break Nani's leg???

BERBA · 06-03-2011 06:33PM

Liam O wrote: »

why because I've an issue with tackles that can potentially end careers not being punished? I've said in this thread that United were shíte and Liverpool deserved their win, complimenting Suarez and Meireles who United should have signed when they got the chance. What do you want me to say 'I love Liverpool they are great'?

Also you can feck off if you think you have the right to tell me I'm biased :rolleyes:

Fair enough , but it is only Nani we talking about

spiralism · 06-03-2011 06:34PM

flahavaj wrote: »

Creating a siege mentality I'd imagine. Probably his best hope at the moment tbh. The results that have threatened several times over the season are now coming thick and fast. I'd still say we are favourites for the league - poor and all as we are, Arsenal seem equally determined not to win it either.

Get Ferdinand and Vidic back and tighten up at the back and we should be OK to win the league no one wants. We have bigger and wier problems however that need to be addressed in the Summer and beyond.

The one thing i would actually worry about if we do manage to win the league is that it would paper over the cracks, the centre midfield will be ignored again and we persist with carrick and fletcher (this seems likely at any rate, given their extensions)

06-03-2011 06:35PM

monkey9 wrote: »

But he didn't break his leg. He has a gash!

but it could have easily broken his leg, it was a matter of luck that it didn't and the fact that Carragher felt the need to apologise shows that (fair play to him) he knows it was out of order and a bad tackle.

#15 · 06-03-2011 06:35PM

spiralism wrote: »

The one thing i would actually worry about if we do manage to win the league is that it would paper over the cracks, the centre midfield will be ignored again and we persist with carrick and fletcher (this seems likely at any rate, given their extensions)

I disagree. Even if we win the league, the CL exit will be evidence of the midfield cracks.

LuckyLloyd · 06-03-2011 06:38PM

Headshot wrote: »

its much better because your arent mod any more

Honest reaction?

your pretty sick minded if thats the first thing that popped into your head, happy that am opposition player could be out for a few weeks.

Honest? is that you call it, im pretty sure I know what's it really is called

Pot calling the kettle black once again

Headshot wrote: »

Heat of the moment?

pro will you ****ing give it a break, the heat of the moment is in the bar, not when your replying to the thread and typing and probably seeing the replay

please dont give me that ****e.

How do you know it isnt a bad injury? Looks pretty bad to me and he wouldnt be going off other wise.

I know your dislike for nani but please dont even try to justify the likes of LL posts.

lol, I think I underestimated just how mad you are! You really are furious.

citytillidie · 06-03-2011 06:38PM

Liam O wrote: »

but it could have easily broken his leg, it was a matter of luck that it didn't and the fact that Carragher felt the need to apologise shows that (fair play to him) he knows it was out of order and a bad tackle.

So Carraghers challenge like Rafaels was a potential leg breaker

monkey9 · 06-03-2011 06:39PM

Liam O wrote: »

but it could have easily broken his leg, it was a matter of luck that it didn't and the fact that Carragher felt the need to apologise shows that (fair play to him) he knows it was out of order and a bad tackle.

Yeah, like Rafael's challenge, it was a potential leg breaker. Lucas was just lucky he was able to jump out of the way.

Both were red cards, but the last few pages have all just been about Carragher's tackle.

Some Utd fans really taking a leaf from Ferguson's book alright. Focus on one incident to avoid what really matters!

spiralism · 06-03-2011 06:39PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Was borderline a yellow card in my opinion - Horrible theatrics from Nani trying to get Carra sent off, no need for it in the modern game!

It was adrenaline id imagine and then the pain hit, he was clearly quite badly hurt given the pics that are going around

Carragher personally waited outside the Utd dressing room to apologise to Nani, classy by him that he acknowledged the mistake and was man enough to apologise

06-03-2011 06:39PM

BERBA wrote: »

Fair enough , but it is only Nani we talking about

this is the problem. If it was Gerrard, Bale, Fabregas etc. who took that challenge there would be uproar.

The reason there isn't is because people have the notion that all Nani does is play act, 'ah sure he's faking it' same as Ronaldo didn't get the credit he deserved or the protection he deserved because he sometimes play acted. People calling him a fairy in this thread clearly must be the biggest hard lads going.

1mcampo1 · 06-03-2011 06:39PM

Liam O wrote: »

but it could have easily broken his leg, it was a matter of luck that it didn't and the fact that Carragher felt the need to apologise shows that (fair play to him) he knows it was out of order and a bad tackle.

rafael could easily have broken lucas' leg...

Pro. F · 06-03-2011 06:40PM

peterswellman wrote: »

Where did I say he didn't? I was just saying I can understand why he would. He was obviously hurt and angry tbh.

In the posts that I quoted. You were trying to deflect criticism from him for making a swipe at the dude.

Anyway, it doesn't matter now. I just watched the video back and it seems clear to me that he was just punching the ground. He even seems to turn around to apologise to the guy. The commentator just confused us all.

flahavaj · 06-03-2011 06:41PM

#15 wrote: »

I disagree. Even if we win the league, the CL exit will be evidence of the midfield cracks.

Nothing was done when Barca murdered us in 2009 or when a Bayern side that really was no great shakes beat us last year either.

I've tried to argue Fergie's corner about the neglect of the midfield the last few years but the last week has depressed me beyond belief. You can count on one hand the anount of times United have properly bossed a game against a bigger team in the past few years. To go to Anfield and be so thoroughly outplayed by a what in reality is as mediocre a Liverpool team as there has been in decades is unacceptable.

monkey9 · 06-03-2011 06:41PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Honestly think he faked it so he didnt get too much of a bollocking of SAF. clumsy challenge but not a leg breaker

So what, he drew the gash onto his leg with a special marker he had hidden in his socks??

parker kent · 06-03-2011 06:41PM

monkey9 wrote: »

No it wasn't!

In fairness, it could have been a leg breaker. It wasn't, but tackles like that have broken legs before. It was wild, rash and should have been a red card. That doesn't excuse Rafael as his should have been a red card too. But it would never had happened if Carragher had been sent off. I also think Maxi could have been sent off by many refs for his thigh high connection with Rafael. All 3 were pretty reckless and brainless.

Speaking of brainless, Nani showed today why he is just a good player, not a great player. His theatrics were laughable but his performance was weak and his header was a sign of a player lacking the mind of a great player. He is a good player having a top season, but that is all he is. This isn't a mindless reaction to the game today either, I'd say the same after he bends one in from 30 yards. Capable of great moments and is getting a lot of assists, but lacking the extra 20% that the best players have.

As for the game, Liverpool deserved to win and the scoreline was fair. United had moments that could have changed the game (hitting the post, off the line etc) but Liverpool deserved a two goal win. They took their chances when they came and that is all you can do. That being said, the second goal was crucial. If it had been 1-0 at half time, it could easily have been a repeat of the Chelsea/United game.

I think the players to come out of this the best are Suarez, Kuyt and......Ferdinand and Vidic :pac:

m@cc@ · 06-03-2011 06:42PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

lol, I think I underestimated just how mad you are! You really are furious.

Interesting that would you would choose that as a retort instead of responding directly to the post.

Blatter · 06-03-2011 06:42PM

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Who?

The lack of knowledge of some people on here is shocking.

Edit:- Unless it is it turtle that you are referring to, however if this is the case considering he is a Ninja Turtle, he was probably carrying out a Ninja move. If you were referring to the Ninja turtle you spelt his name wrong.

I thnk he was referring to that Italian artist during the Renaissance.

Funny really, he'd be the last person you'd expect to be associated with today's game.

On the other hand, I've heard Liverpool's fans like their history channels.

06-03-2011 06:43PM

citytillidie wrote: »

So Carraghers challenge like Rafaels was a potential leg breaker

no it wasn't, it was two footed and a bad tackle that deserved a red but I've never seen a leg broken from a tackle like that, I have however seen it multiple times from tackles like Carragher's.

Also I'm sick of how nobody seems to have anything to say about Carragher's other than 'Well Rafael made a bad tackle after' Carragher should have been off and while there is no excuse for Rafael's tackle it wouldn't have happened if Carragher had been sent off.

LuckyLloyd · 06-03-2011 06:43PM

Liam O wrote: »

but it could have easily broken his leg, it was a matter of luck that it didn't and the fact that Carragher felt the need to apologise shows that (fair play to him) he knows it was out of order and a bad tackle.

The results of tackles should bear no relation to how they are punished. If Nani had hurdled out of Carragher's way it should still be a red card tackle.

Earlier in the thread someone argued that Rafeals wasn't a red card because the Liverpool player concerned jumped straight up from it unharmed, and Carraghers was because Nani was hurt. That line of reasoning is deeply flawed.

CR 7 · 06-03-2011 06:44PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Honestly think he faked it so he didnt get too much of a bollocking of SAF. clumsy challenge but not a leg breaker

You should really just give up. I don't know if you're trying to troll or what, but it's become like the old man in the corner shouting random collections of words, and everyone else is slowly inching away, out of embarrassment for him.:o

Headshot · 06-03-2011 06:44PM

Im not mad tbh

Liverpool were the much better team and totally deserve to trash us but what im sickened by is posts patting carra on the back for his leg breaker of a tackle and actually happy with it

btw your pretty sad with those gif and pics, your a broken record by now

edit

also your posts are rawk material so I reckon there's some vacancies on that site for ya

m@cc@ wrote: »

Interesting that would you would choose that as a retort instead of responding directly to the post.

Macca

dont worry about it, he's well known for it. Its pretty sad tbh
In one way i feel sorry for him

spiralism · 06-03-2011 06:46PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The results of tackles should bear no relation to how they are punished. If Nani had hurdled out of Carragher's way it should still be a red card tackle.

Earlier in the thread someone argued that Rafeals wasn't a red card because the Liverpool player concerned jumped straight up from it unharmed, and Carraghers was because Nani was hurt. That line of reasoning is deeply flawed.

Indeed. A tackle shouldn't be judged on the damage it does or doesnt do. Many a player has been injured by a reasonable tackle and many have got up and walked off after a horror lunge.

06-03-2011 06:46PM

parker kent wrote: »

In fairness, it could have been a leg breaker. It wasn't, but tackles like that have broken legs before. It was wild, rash and should have been a red card. That doesn't excuse Rafael as his should have been a red card too. But it would never had happened if Carragher had been sent off. I also think Maxi could have been sent off by many refs for his thigh high connection with Rafael. All 3 were pretty reckless and brainless.

Speaking of brainless, Nani showed today why he is just a good player, not a great player. His theatrics were laughable but his performance was weak and his header was a sign of a player lacking the mind of a great player. He is a good player having a top season, but that is all he is. This isn't a mindless reaction to the game today either, I'd say the same after he bends one in from 30 yards. Capable of great moments and is getting a lot of assists, but lacking the extra 20% that the best players have.

As for the game, Liverpool deserved to win and the scoreline was fair. United had moments that could have changed the game (hitting the post, off the line etc) but Liverpool deserved a two goal win. They took their chances when they came and that is all you can do. That being said, the second goal was crucial. If it had been 1-0 at half time, it could easily have been a repeat of the Chelsea/United game.

I think the players to come out of this the best are Suarez, Kuyt and......Ferdinand and Vidic :pac:

this is pretty much a good summary of what I think, except the point on Nani. I mean he clearly wasn't play acting, that's one of the worst tackles this season and he got on his feet and quickly realised he was fúcked and went down. What's the big issue here?

missingtime · 06-03-2011 06:46PM

There is an old rule that I'm sure some of ye are aware of:

What is said between the hours of the match on the match thread, stays between the hours of the match on the match thread.

Seriously though, awesome thread. It has everything.

LuckyLloyd · 06-03-2011 06:47PM

m@cc@ wrote: »

Interesting that would you would choose that as a retort instead of responding directly to the post.

Huh? He is simply repeating his position in those posts. I have posted my opposing viewpoint to that position earlier in the thread. As such, the content of the last two posts isn't really interesting - but the ever deepening fury with which he restates his point is quite amusing!

PL: Liverpool v Manchester United. 6/3/2011, KO 1330.

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