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Silver Marked Garda Car

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  • #32
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    savagecabbages wrote: »
    I hope he was making a joke :pac::pac::pac:
    I try to lather my post with smilies if i'm saying something silly, just to avoid confusion!

    Some people don't need smilies to make jokes.
    kravmaga wrote: »
    You are correct, its got to do with the re-sale value.

    The Met in London changed out the fleet in 2004 from white to silver.

    AGS transport division finally playing catch up....;)

    That would be a good point if the silver cars here was intentional.

    Still no evidence of the Skoda's being bought. Which means it's probably not true especially when you look at the fact that the only cars trialled for the current buy were the Focus, Mondeo, Insignia and the Avensis.


  • #33
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,323 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    On the counter side, USian police forces seem to have little difficulty in selling off their Black-and-Whites/Blue-and-Whites/Insert-Agency-Colour-Combo-Here. If someone is going to expect to get Blue Book price for an ex-Police Avensis, even if it's silver, they're off their rocker. Yes, they've probably been maintained very well, but they will also have been driven hard. Face it, who ever takes as much care of a car not their own? Plus they likely have holes in them for the extra electronics.

    The buyers in the US are usually also fleet owners, from taxi companies to private security firms. Or, they're just private citizens out to get cheap wheels, but know exactly what they're getting. The colour isn't overly important to them, though the spotlight and ram bars can be handy. One would have thought that the potential buyer's market in Europe would be fairly similar.

    It does beg the question, though. In five or six years' time, what do USian forces want to do with their old Carbon E7s? Being specifically designed as a police car, it might be too specialised for resale, even with people just looking for wheels. They'd have to replace all those integrated lenses for the lights, for example.

    NTM


  • #34
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Manic Moran wrote: »
    On the counter side, USian police forces seem to have little difficulty in selling off their Black-and-Whites/Blue-and-Whites/Insert-Agency-Colour-Combo-Here. If someone is going to expect to get Blue Book price for an ex-Police Avensis, even if it's silver, they're off their rocker. Yes, they've probably been maintained very well, but they will also have been driven hard. Face it, who ever takes as much care of a car not their own? Plus they likely have holes in them for the extra electronics.

    The buyers in the US are usually also fleet owners, from taxi companies to private security firms. Or, they're just private citizens out to get cheap wheels, but know exactly what they're getting. The colour isn't overly important to them, though the spotlight and ram bars can be handy. One would have thought that the potential buyer's market in Europe would be fairly similar.

    It does beg the question, though. In five or six years' time, what do USian forces want to do with their old Carbon E7s? Being specifically designed as a police car, it might be too specialised for resale, even with people just looking for wheels. They'd have to replace all those integrated lenses for the lights, for example.

    NTM

    " its got a cop moter of 440 cubic inch plan, its got cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks ... the model made before catalytic converters so it will run good on regular gas ... what do you say, is it the new Blues Mobile or what? "
    baker-anthony-blues-brothers-24077021.jpg


  • #35
    eroo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    ''We're on a mission.. from Gad''

    As somebody said already, where is the evidence the Octavia's are coming in?


  • #36
    Terrontress
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    EI321 wrote: »
    The German police swiched to silver vehicles a few years ago from a very specific shade of green that they used to use.

    Most UK forces seem to be using silver now also. The resale value is generally higher as its less obvious that they are ex-cop cars.

    White is fashionalbe these days but a few years back white cars did not hold their value as well as silver/black/blue colours.

    PSNI seem to have gone silver also.

    German police vehicles where white with green markings. They then changed to silver with green markings. They have now changed to a silver with blue marking that is apparently an EU standard. I have seen some other countries with the exact same marks but the word for Police in the language of that force. I am sure AGS have considered going down the same route.

    The RUC used to have a great livery on their white Ford Granadas. The jam sandwich.


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  • #37
    belacqua_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭belacqua_


    Terrontress wrote: »
    German police vehicles where white with green markings. They then changed to silver with green markings.

    While the vast majority of the state and local police forces have adopted the blue livery (and uniforms), this is by no mean prescriptive. The police in Bavaria, for example, still retain the green livery on both silver and white vehicles (as well as their traditional green and khaki uniforms).

    http://www.polizei.bayern.de/

    http://www.polizei.bayern.de/news/presse/bildergalerie/index.html/5630


  • #38
    Terrontress
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    belacqua_ wrote: »
    While the vast majority of the state and local police forces have adopted the blue livery (and uniforms), this is by no mean prescriptive. The police in Bavaria, for example, still retain the green livery on both silver and white vehicles (as well as their traditional green and khaki uniforms).

    http://www.polizei.bayern.de/

    http://www.polizei.bayern.de/news/presse/bildergalerie/index.html/5630

    Yeah, the cars I've seen have been in Rheinland-Pfalz and Hessen with the blue markings.

    It's interesting to see the regional influence on police cars. BMWs in Bavaria, Opels in Hessen and Mercedes in Baden-Wurttemburg.

    I've also seen fully marked American police cars operating as Military Police from the base at Wiesbaden. Driver with a big moustache, mirror sunglasses and wide rimmed hat with a star on it!


  • #39
    belacqua_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭belacqua_


    Terrontress wrote: »
    It's interesting to see the regional influence on police cars. BMWs in Bavaria, Opels in Hessen and Mercedes in Baden-Wurttemburg.

    That's a good point, Saarland (one of the few remaining states to stick with green) tends to favour French made cars because of the region's historical ties with Alsace-Lorraine. What do the US MPs drive?


  • #40
    Terrontress
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    belacqua_ wrote: »
    That's a good point, Saarland (one of the few remaining states to stick with green) tends to favour French made cars because of the region's historical ties with Alsace-Lorraine. What do the US MPs drive?

    Crown Vics!

    When I saw the story on the news about the shooting at Frankfurt Airport, I knew right away it was something to do with the American military because the bus was one of those stereotypical American buses that seem to get used on film and tv for school bus, prison bus, military transport, transporting Mahoney to riots in Police Academy etc!

    http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2011/03/02/70104-a-police-car-stands-next-to-an-u-s-army-bus-in-front-of-frankfurt-airp.jpg


  • #41
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,323 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Terrontress wrote: »
    Crown Vics!

    When I saw the story on the news about the shooting at Frankfurt Airport, I knew right away it was something to do with the American military because the bus was one of those stereotypical American buses that seem to get used on film and tv for school bus, prison bus, military transport, transporting Mahoney to riots in Police Academy etc!

    http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2011/03/02/70104-a-police-car-stands-next-to-an-u-s-army-bus-in-front-of-frankfurt-airp.jpg

    Most US MPs seem to be rolling in Chevy Impalas. I can't recall the last time I saw an Army Crown Vic or Charger.

    mp165.jpg
    080304-F-1151S-001.jpg

    However, after hunting aruond, they do seem to exist, or at least, have existed before the Impala fleet showed up.
    mp114.jpg

    NTM


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  • #42
    nightster1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭nightster1


    police-Lamborghini.jpg
    Hogzy wrote: »
    Seeing as we cannot post on the photos forum i had to create a new thread.

    Are garda cars switching to a silver color or is this just a demo model?

    Photo


  • #43
    Terrontress
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    Manic Moran wrote: »
    Most US MPs seem to be rolling in Chevy Impalas. I can't recall the last time I saw an Army Crown Vic or Charger.

    However, after hunting aruond, they do seem to exist, or at least, have existed before the Impala fleet showed up.

    NTM

    I haven't been over since 2008 and not sure when I last saw an MP but they definitely have had Crown Vics at the USAFE in Wiesbaden.

    When I first moved to Germany in 1997 the American military where everywhere. I found them to be decent guys, the ones I met anyway, although one of the Irish pubs I frequented had banned them all!

    Anyway, there were loads of American cars and military vehicles. There was a lot of anti-American sentiment from my German friends. They used to complain about the number of GIs in Sachsenhausen in Frankfurt. Since that time the Americans have all mobilised throughout the middle east and the bars and clubs frequented by Americans have got very quiet and the Germans have realised that the presence of the Americans on a night out might not have been a bad thing.


  • #44
    seanmacc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 770 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    I was told by a family member in the traffic corps. before they ordered in the new Avensis and Octavia's they trialed a number of other cars. The fav by most of the traffic corps Garda was actually the Opel insignia and they still have a coupke of them somewhere round the country but supposedly there was maintenece and reliability concerns. They also got a couple of Volvos, Fiats and Ford Fiestas (I kid you not).

    I actually saw an unmarked Fiesta pull somebody over on the East Wall road near the port.

    So when booting down the M1 or M50 at 90mph keep your eyes peeled for more than Modeo's and Toyotas


  • #45
    Hightower21
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭Hightower21


    Was on the M6 in heading to dublin. Passed a car transporter carrying 6 sliver cars with garda traffic corp all over them. all brand spanking new


  • #46
    Hogzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    Hightower21 wrote: »
    Was on the M6 in heading to dublin. Passed a car transporter carrying 6 sliver cars with garda traffic corp all over them. all brand spanking new

    Were they all Avensis' or were they Octavias?


  • #47
    swiftblade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭swiftblade


    Please be Octavia's, please be Octavia's....... :pac:


  • #48
    Irish Fire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Irish Fire


    Hightower21 wrote: »
    Was on the M6 in heading to dublin. Passed a car transporter carrying 6 sliver cars with garda traffic corp all over them. all brand spanking new

    Silver the new white.......


  • #49
    Bosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭Bosh


    swiftblade wrote: »
    Please be Octavia's, please be Octavia's....... :pac:

    Sorry, Avensis.....:o


  • #50
    Hightower21
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭Hightower21


    Bosh wrote: »
    Sorry, Avensis.....:o

    Sorry the car transporter was illigely parked on the Hard shoulder on the motorway. I was driving at the nearly the legal speed limit of 119km/h :D


  • #51
    meathstevie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    seanmacc wrote: »
    I was told by a family member in the traffic corps. before they ordered in the new Avensis and Octavia's they trialed a number of other cars. The fav by most of the traffic corps Garda was actually the Opel insignia and they still have a coupke of them somewhere round the country but supposedly there was maintenece and reliability concerns. They also got a couple of Volvos, Fiats and Ford Fiestas (I kid you not).

    I actually saw an unmarked Fiesta pull somebody over on the East Wall road near the port.

    So when booting down the M1 or M50 at 90mph keep your eyes peeled for more than Modeo's and Toyotas

    The 3.2 4 wheel drive Insignia is supposed to be a crackin machine but I can't see the powers that be being willing to buy a load of them.


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  • #52
    mle1324
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭mle1324


    meathstevie wrote: »
    The 3.2 4 wheel drive Insignia is supposed to be a crackin machine but I can't see the powers that be being willing to buy a load of them.

    2.8 actually, 3.2 are the older Omegas and early models of the Vectra from 03 up. I doubt it was even the 2.8 that was tested, most likely the 2.0L Cdti.

    Your right they'd never be bought. No need for them really because with the speed there capable of reaching there would be no way that gardai would pursue someone at speed of nearly 150mph/241kph. It's being mention here and the motors forum loads of times.

    If it was the case the helicopter would be called in to take over.


  • #53
    Irish Fire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Irish Fire


    mle1324 wrote: »
    2.8 actually, 3.2 are the older Omegas and early models of the Vectra from 03 up. I doubt it was even the 2.8 that was tested, most likely the 2.0L Cdti.

    Your right they'd never be bought. No need for them really because with the speed there capable of reaching there would be no way that gardai would pursue someone at speed of nearly 150mph/241kph. It's being mention here and the motors forum loads of times.

    If it was the case the helicopter would be called in to take over.


    Straight line, car at 150mph would loose the helicopter


  • #54
    mle1324
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭mle1324


    Irish Fire wrote: »
    Straight line, car at 150mph would loose the helicopter

    Really? I always thought the Eurocopter could easily travel that fast.


  • #55
    Locust
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭Locust


    Eurocopters cruising speed - 158mph without breaking a sweat
    Ref:-
    http://www.eurocopter.com/site/en/ref/Characteristics_87.html


  • #56
    gerire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭gerire


    Irish Fire wrote: »
    Straight line, car at 150mph would loose the helicopter

    And how many roads to we have that the copter cant take the shortest route?

    We do not have long straight roads over hundreds of k's.

    If the copter has you in its sights you'll need to be doing ninja stuff to get out of the way. Hills and clouds.....


  • #57
    Terrontress
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    Surely with extremely quick cars like Evo, Imprezza, R32, ST220 etc the whole point is that anyone who knows a bit about cars will not even dream about not stopping. Those who might be prepared to attempt to outrun a Garda Focus saloon would think again if they saw a marked car in their mirror capable of hitting a 155mph limiter with ease.

    The ability and threat to do 155 is more important than actually doing it.


  • #58
    Locust
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭Locust


    I've always been a believer that the average Police/Garda car should be superior/faster than what the general public have access to (along with better trained drivers). Great deterrant.

    At the same time I can't believe the stupidity/foolishness of people trying to outrun Gardai going 120mph+ on an irish road - the chances of them loosing control and killing or injuring themselves increases exponentially!


  • #59
    Terrontress
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    Locust wrote: »
    I've always been a believer that the average Police/Garda car should be superior/faster than what the general public have access to (along with better trained drivers). Great deterrant.

    At the same time I can't believe the stupidity/foolishness of people trying to outrun Gardai going 120mph+ on an irish road - the chances of them loosing control and killing or injuring themselves increases exponentially!

    Well, there is the whole issue of Chief's, allowing untrained drivers to drive operational garda vehicles. And then driving underpowered family saloons. There are kids stealing cars who think themselves superior to Garda drivers. Obviously Garda drivers make a risk assessment and will pull back if the driving required to keep up with these jokers is dangerous or else it is felt that, by pursuing, they are causing the little snotters to drive dangerously to escape.


  • #60
    searescue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭searescue


    New estate Avensis Traffic Corps car based in Tralee is silver.


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  • #61
    source
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭source


    saw it yesterday, bombing past ballyseedy, good looking car in the flesh.


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