Silver Marked Garda Car

Hogzy

Seeing as we cannot post on the photos forum i had to create a new thread.

Are garda cars switching to a silver color or is this just a demo model?

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listermint

There was a silver marked new Avensis Estate 2011 at the Garda Stand in the Motor Show RDS over the weekend.

It is a road model. So yes to answer your question there is existing ones out there. Looked well too. liked the contrast.

Hogzy

Very strange that they bought some silver ones and white ones. Why didnt they go all silver?

Unless its a trial?

Goonerdee

I remember reading somewhere that silver cars are easier to sell than white cars, therefore it is easier for the Garda/Police services to make money back when they take a vehicle out of service and sell it second hand.

Hogzy

Goonerdee wrote: »

I remember reading somewhere that silver cars are easier to sell than white cars, therefore it is easier for the Garda/Police services to make money back when they take a vehicle out of service and sell it second hand.

Perfectly understandable, thats why The Met switched. But why have the majority of their new 2011 Avensis' come in White?

Goonerdee

Hogzy wrote: »

Perfectly understandable, thats why The Met switched. But why have the majority of their new 2011 Avensis' come in White?

That is unusual, unless they were ordered before they made the switch. I'm not sure what difference there is in prices for silver cars and white cars, it might have been costly to change the colour on the order.

mailforkev

I remember reading about some forces in the UK changing to silver a few years back.

Can't remember the real reasons, but it did mention that it makes it a lot easier for them to sell the cars on after a few years if they're not white.

incident commander

I think one of the reasons was that toyota didn' have enought white cars left.

Hally_89

Another reason the police in england switched was that silver is cheaper to buy than white because white has become so popular. Maybe the Gardai are trying to save money and do the same

Hally_89

Diverman wrote: »

In my experience it's usually because the Department concerned left it so late in the year to order cars that it's all they have left. They have to be delivered before year end for department budget reasons. There is little or no forward planning done for purchasing it's usually down to a matter of what they have left sometime in November what they can buy.
DM

It was planned ahead this time because the new cars are police spec. Should have been planned all the time. The new avensis that they bought were bought to spec but then they decided they wanted to go with octavias so they had to take the 70 odd avensis's that they bought and the rest will be octavias

Delancey

Hally_89 wrote: »

It was planned ahead this time because the new cars are police spec. Should have been planned all the time. The new avensis that they bought were bought to spec but then they decided they wanted to go with octavias so they had to take the 70 odd avensis's that they bought and the rest will be octavias

That should please a lot of folks here who would have preferred Octavias or Mondeos over the Avensis.

goldie fish

Colour is no longer an issue if the car carries a full battenburg colour scheme.

Hogzy

Delancey wrote: »

That should please a lot of folks here who would have preferred Octavias or Mondeos over the Avensis.

In fairness, It has a bigger boot!

They will end up getting rid of the transits and going all octavias. You could fit an army regiment in the boot of an Octavia according to the folks over at the motors forum :P

FGR

Is there any source for the information Re: Skoda replacing Toyota as supplier?

EDIT: The silver does look good!

Hally_89 wrote: »

The new avensis that they bought were bought to spec but then they decided they wanted to go with octavias so they had to take the 70 odd avensis's that they bought and the rest will be octavias

Got a source for that?

copacetic

Hally_89 wrote: »

Another reason the police in england switched was that silver is cheaper to buy than white because white has become so popular. Maybe the Gardai are trying to save money and do the same

metallic silver isn't cheaper than flat white and never will be. At worst it's the same price as pearl white.

Zambia

Hogzy wrote: »

In fairness, It has a bigger boot!

They will end up getting rid of the transits and going all octavias. You could fit an army regiment in the boot of an Octavia according to the folks over at the motors forum :P

An army ??? All you need is space for the offender any witnesses, a shovel and a bag of Lime

source

I like your filing system Zambia. No offender + No witnesses + No injured party = no paperwork.

Bring on the Octavia's huge boot. :pac:

meathstevie

foinse wrote: »

I like your filing system Zambia. No offender + No witnesses + No injured party = no paperwork.

Bring on the Octavia's huge boot. :pac:

Give me an estate with blacked out windows so

savagecabbages

Assuming that info posted earlier is correct.

The Octavia would make a great patrol car, the boot is cavernous!
Are there any plans to equip the Traffic Corps with vRS Octavias? Particularly the diesel vRS very fast and very easy on fuel

deadwood

savagecabbages wrote: »

The Octavia would make a great patrol car, the boot is cavernous!

Don't they do a vegetarian version too?

Hogzy

deadwood wrote: »

Don't they do a vegetarian version too?

I think you were thinking of the word Carnivorous

flyton5

savagecabbages wrote: »

Assuming that info posted earlier is correct.

The Octavia would make a great patrol car, the boot is cavernous!
Are there any plans to equip the Traffic Corps with vRS Octavias? Particularly the diesel vRS very fast and very easy on fuel

Traffic trialled an unmarked vRS about 6 years ago around the same time they had the marked SAAB. Got a spin in it. Great car. Presume the reason they didn't bring a few of them in was down to price.

Hogzy wrote: »

I think you were thinking of the word Carnivorous

I think he was making a joke.

savagecabbages

I hope he was making a joke :pac::pac::pac:
I try to lather my post with smilies if i'm saying something silly, just to avoid confusion!

Whats the time frame for these Octavias being acquired?
I understand the procurement process changed recently, can anyone explain what it was before/is now?
I did a quick look couldn't find anything concrete.

donvito99

After many long years of conservative, bigoted, foolish decisions right from the top, I think sense is now prevailing in AGS.

alot more to do though...like irish rail's old motto

kravmaga

Goonerdee wrote: »

I remember reading somewhere that silver cars are easier to sell than white cars, therefore it is easier for the Garda/Police services to make money back when they take a vehicle out of service and sell it second hand.

You are correct, its got to do with the re-sale value.

The Met in London changed out the fleet in 2004 from white to silver.

AGS transport division finally playing catch up....;)

source

Why bother worrying about resale value, when they'll probably keep them until 300k km and then if they're unfit to be driven by Gardai they won't sell them to the public. So they'll wind up crushing them.

EI321

The German police swiched to silver vehicles a few years ago from a very specific shade of green that they used to use.

Most UK forces seem to be using silver now also. The resale value is generally higher as its less obvious that they are ex-cop cars.

White is fashionalbe these days but a few years back white cars did not hold their value as well as silver/black/blue colours.

PSNI seem to have gone silver also.

belacqua_

EI321 wrote: »

PSNI seem to have gone silver also.

Their latest arrivals (Focus estates and Vauxhalls, as well as their prisoner transport and cctv surveillance units) have been almost exclusively delivered in white.

BaronVon

My understanding is that companies that lease out cars to the polis normally buy silver ones, as they have a better resale value.

The state buy white cos its the cheapest colour