Young lads acting the fool.

How Soon Is Now · 03-03-2011 01:16AM

Metallitroll wrote: »

why not just strike back with a "Angerfist fanboy" comment have you ever seen them?! we are talking ability/agendaaa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKLjZ7sEzp4

can a metronome incite a riot? maddening as that one is. i thought angerfists were nu-metal discards originally cute masks, keep em on and save face?! n revert to 'happy hardcore', lest we have a load of sociopathic murderous skanks on our hands

Thanks i aint heard that in ages :P

RMD · 03-03-2011 01:16AM

angerfist2009 wrote: »

If it makes you feel any better them backwards up there own arse auld ones will be worm food fairly soon anyway.

I know what type of old ones you're on about but this couple isn't actually like that, they're friends of a friend of my granny or some crap similar to that, supposed to be nice people and pretty relaxed. Not the "oh yes I'm perfect every way it's the youth of today who are bad, no respect I tell ya, wasn't like that in my day" cranky bitch type.

brendansmith · 03-03-2011 01:18AM

Aoifey! wrote: »

Actually, many teenagers have jobs. Many teenagers volunteer. Many teenagers are respectful. Teenagers are also people, and if you have a "they're all cunts" attitude, you will get the same level of respect back.

Yes but not many teenagers have spent 60 years of their lives contibuting to society.

Ahh teenagers are fine I guess. There are some sexy ones around the place that I wouldnt mind gettin up in their guts if you know what I mean.

Degag · 03-03-2011 01:18AM

Don't know if it's mentioned or not but what i hate is women pushing prams down a street two abreast so that anyone coming against them has to walk out on the street and invariably, anyone walking behind them has to too, to pass them out as they are walking so slow.

Also to the (mostly) women who won't even mutter a thanks after you hold the door open or stand back to let them in/out of a shop first.

Dudess · 03-03-2011 01:18AM

Khyra, my parents were extremely responsible and concerned, but once I was old enough to head off out of the house on my own without accompaniment, they were not going to be able to keep tabs on everything I did. I wasn't MAD or anything, but I got up to trying out the usual: smoking, drinking, fooling around with lads, dressing like a prostitute, hanging out with "unsavoury" crowds, loitering in public places (not something I notice kids doing myself, but it seems to cause untold upset) etc - it didn't last long and it didn't lead to me becoming a menace to society, it rarely does. I dislike when people forget about when they were teenagers, especially when it wasn't even that long ago - it's very hypocritical and selective. I'm not saying all teenagers got up to no good, but you can be darn sure many who lament "the youth of today" were guilty of similar themselves way back through the mists of time in 2002 or whatever.
And while parents who deem their views more "valid" since they became parents are smug arseholes, it's absolutely true that blanket judgements and recommendations regarding parenting don't hold much weight when they are made by people who don't have children. A person has no way of knowing that their kid won't turn out to be a nightmare, even if they do their very best as a parent...

Bullseye1 · 03-03-2011 01:18AM

You think it's acceptable for 14-15 year olds to be out after 9-10pm on a school day? I was brought up in a big family and my parents always made sure they knew where i was.

Dudess wrote: »

Just like you weren't disrespectful, plenty of today's teens aren't disrespectful either. Those kids you saw aren't representative of all teens (if they were up to anything dodge that is).

It's absolutely nothing new - you have an extremely rose-tinted view of the past, which was what... 10 years ago? :pac:

"Your time"? You seem about 25, if even that. A bit young to be going on like a cantankerous old fogey...

This stuff about complacent parents is really presumptuous - if you expect parents to constantly watch their teenagers you've a very skewed view of reality.

Like what? I'm the same age as you and what's being described above sounds not too different to when I was a teenager.

Actually it's 20-somethings here who seem to go on like auldies the most. Several Boards regulars in their 30s/early 40s seem way more relaxed and way more of a laugh.

How Soon Is Now · 03-03-2011 01:19AM

RMD wrote: »

I know what type of old ones you're on about but this couple isn't actually like that, they're friends of a friend of my granny or some crap similar to that, supposed to be nice people and pretty relaxed. Not the "oh yes I'm perfect every way it's the youth of today who are bad, no respect I tell ya, wasn't like that in my day" cranky bitch type.

I actually would of broke my ****e laughing if two 80 something ones crossed the street and picked up pace cause of me and me mates heading towards them. ****e like that would make my day id say they were on Joe duffy the next day complaing.

Metallitroll · 03-03-2011 01:21AM

angerfist2009 wrote: »

Thanks i aint heard that in ages :P

good stuff, keep it up

though some of the people in that crowd are distinctly not 13.. for that is some retarded shiiit

brendansmith · 03-03-2011 01:21AM

Dudess wrote: »

fooling around with lads

Oh yeah?
What kind of stuff?

Aoifey! · 03-03-2011 01:23AM

Bullseye1 wrote: »

You think it's acceptable for 14-15 year olds to be out after 9-10pm on a school day? I was brought up in a big family and my parents always made sure they knew where i was.

In certain situations, yes. One of the complaints in the OP was about teens by a chipper. So for all we know they live close-by or were dropped in to go get chips. Is that not okay?

Every family, every situation, is different.

Khyra24 · 03-03-2011 01:23AM

This thread should be about ungrateful ignorant people in general instead of teenagers specifically. There are plenty of fine people at varying ages and also plenty of fools. I agree with the respect your elders being a bunch of bollox. I was taught that since I was born but I believe you should give everyone respect if you want respect back. I've met some elders who expect to be respected while acting a complete arse to me and still demand respect after. Bologna I tell you!

Bullseye1 · 03-03-2011 01:25AM

If it were stopping off for chips after football training yes. Kids need to be more involved in sports and less of the PS3's.

AskMyChocolate · 03-03-2011 01:33AM

Given the amount of organised crime/treason/child abuse/covering up for child abuse that has gone on in this country in the Dail/Church over the past thirty years and the fcukwit adults who voted for it/turned a blind eye to it, I would be interested to know how any adult believes that children/the younger generation should have anything but utter contempt for their elders/authority.

Pace2008 · 03-03-2011 01:36AM

I'm sorely tempted to dig out the list of quotes I have stashed away from eminent writers going back from BC to the present lamenting the decline of civilisation brought about by the moral depravity of the new age of youths.

I think we're only a few generations from the Youths of Today becoming so fundamentally different to their forebears that they can be considered a different species. Human evolution is not as far away as you might think.

indough · 03-03-2011 01:39AM

Yeah but these kids were practically engaged in ultraviolence what with their standing around in a public place.

Dudess · 03-03-2011 01:40AM

brendansmith wrote: »

Oh yeah?
What kind of stuff?

I could do like many Boardsies and say I was having sex at 13, getting it up the bum/performing fellatio at 14, engaging in threesomes at 15, engaging in orgies at 16... but it was just boring teenage snogging and a bit of awkward fumbling...

Dudess · 03-03-2011 01:41AM

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

Given the amount of organised crime/treason/child abuse/covering up for child abuse that has gone on in this country in the Dail/Church over the past thirty years and the fcukwit adults who voted for it/turned a blind eye to it, I would be interested to know how any adult believes that children/the younger generation should have anything but utter contempt for their elders/authority.

Because it would wankerish of them to be so willing to blame many people who aren't responsible?

Khyra24 · 03-03-2011 01:43AM

Dudess wrote: »

Khyra, my parents were extremely responsible and concerned, but once I was old enough to head off out of the house on my own without accompaniment, they were not going to be able to keep tabs on everything I did. I wasn't MAD or anything, but I got up to trying out the usual: smoking, drinking, fooling around with lads, dressing like a prostitute, hanging out with "unsavoury" crowds, loitering in public places (not something I notice kids doing myself, but it seems to cause untold upset) etc - it didn't last long and it didn't lead to me becoming a menace to society, it rarely does. I dislike when people forget about when they were teenagers, especially when it wasn't even that long ago - it's very hypocritical and selective. I'm not saying all teenagers got up to no good, but you can be darn sure many who lament "the youth of today" were guilty of similar themselves way back through the mists of time in 2002 or whatever.
And while parents who deem their views more "valid" since they became parents are smug arseholes, it's absolutely true that blanket judgements and recommendations regarding parenting don't hold much weight when they are made by people who don't have children. A person has no way of knowing that their kid won't turn out to be a nightmare, even if they do their very best as a parent...

We come from very different backgrounds and that is very interesting indeed! After I became of age, I was never allowed to smoke, drink, hang out with whoever I wanted, loiter or do anything my parents would deem unacceptable. I never really got to live life the way I wanted but at the same time, I guess I couldn't blame my parents for it either because they didn't exactly come from a pleasant background. (They immigrated to the States because their country was at war and most of the family was slaughtered). I'm glad to hear that you've actually lived and experienced a lot of different things. Someone once told me that you don't know anything until you've actually given a go at it and made a mistake. You learn from your mistakes and you grow from it. It's true...it doesn't mean you will become a menace to society just because of how you were as a teen. Sometimes the quiet ones who have done nothing "wrong" could be trouble later. No one really knows.

I haven't forgotten about myself as a teenager. Actually, I'd like to. I was a shy and quiet little girl who stayed to myself most of the time. I regret that...I wish I had actually talked to a lot of people and hung out so I could make a few good friends. Can't turn back time though sadly. I understand what you mean about being hypocritical and selective. I really don't mind the younger folks apart from the ones on my street who scream in the middle of the night and vandalize people's property. But just because they're trouble doesn't mean it should be generalized that everyone else is the same.

I don't know much about parenting myself since I've never had children and don't intend on having any anytime soon. But I do think that it is up to the child really on how he/she will be as an adult. Of course parents have their influence but that's not the only factor that affects a person. So many factors are involved and the decision to be made is by that child/person alone.

Dr_Phil · 03-03-2011 01:44AM

Khyra24 wrote: »

A lot of teenagers have no respect for elders and authority these days. They're really fresh and you know why? Because a lot of parents don't really give a damn.

Well thats what they were told.. "Kid, you can sh*t on the top of my head but I smile, I tell you I love you and buy you another toy"

A slap or ANY sort of punishment are way too stressful for young people these days, we could raise a monster according to the colour papers and TV programs....

So no moaning now.

Metallitroll · 03-03-2011 01:53AM

why can't they take their activities to the park, i remember how we'd basically live to kick a football and activities like drinking / smoking were a sideshow like our HT oranges we woulda been mortified to be caught loitering in public with 'nothing to do'. one thing is there's no delapidated buildings, potential squats or just plain old wasteland anymore with the greedy developers but there are parks.. n they trump a bus stop or centra hands down do they not?!

but enjoyment in actually harassing their elders how did that come about, that father who was shot by some retard when he confronted him and his gang for what was it - pelting his house with eggs. weirdoes man. nothing more/plenty less there's dysfunctional and there's criminally insane, or just plain insane rather, i defo see a lot more of these potential cases today within the skanger community of course as the originals now have kids, grandparents in some cases n those are some uninspiring parents i'll gladly keep my old victorian style posh wannabe ould wan tbh. but these kids realize how disenfranchised uninformed and uninventive they are n are basically upset about it. driving emselves loopy tbh, i watched some frustrated young man gave a bus stop a terrible hard time the other night

painful viewing.

Trog · 03-03-2011 01:54AM

I'd just like to interject here and point out that there are no more careless parents than there were before. There have always been both responsible and irresponsible parents. There have always been misbehavior in kids. There have always been disrespectful kids. This 'in my day I wasn't allowed do...' argument is ridiculous, because there were other people who were let away with things.

And what constitutes respectful behavior changes with times. Saying kids aren't respectful to their elders these days is like saying the Wright Brothers didn't have proper pilots training. In the past, acknowledging your elders and helping with bags etc was expected of any polite young person. Now it constitutes respect to leave people as they are and not bother them unless they're very obviously in need of help.

This is a non issue.

Trog · 03-03-2011 01:56AM

Metallitroll wrote: »

why can't they take their activities to the park, i remember how we'd basically live to kick a football and activities like drinking / smoking were a sideshow like our HT oranges we woulda been mortified to be caught loitering in public with 'nothing to do'. one thing is there's no delapidated buildings, potential squats or just plain old wasteland anymore with the greedy developers but there are parks.. n they trump a bus stop or centra hands down do they not?!

but enjoyment in actually harassing their elders how did that come about, that father who was shot by some retard when he confronted him and his gang for what was it - pelting his house with eggs. weirdoes man. nothing more/plenty less there's dysfunctional and there's criminally insane, or just plain insane rather, i defo see a lot more of these potential cases today within the skanger community of course as the originals now have kids, grandparents in some cases n those are some uninspiring parents i'll gladly keep my old victorian style posh wannabe ould wan tbh. but these kids realize how disenfranchised uninformed and uninventive they are n are basically upset about it. driving emselves loopy tbh, i watched some frustrated young man gave a bus stop a terrible hard time the other night painful viewing.

Most parks close early unless it's summer. There has always been crime, and there's always been pranks and hi jinx. There has always been bad parenting.

indough · 03-03-2011 01:57AM

Trog wrote: »

Saying kids aren't respectful to their elders these days is like saying the Wright Brothers didn't have proper pilots training.

They certainly had no respect for birds. Loitering around in the sky like that, how dare they?

Dudess · 03-03-2011 01:58AM

Khyra, you can be sure I wasn't allowed do those things either, but I did them behind my parents' back because it had gotten to a stage where they couldn't be watching me all the time. I don't think less of anyone who didn't do that stuff as a teen whatsoever - and believe me, I wasn't that adventurous, and I didn't go on to experience a whole lot of different things.

I was extremely tame compared to some of my peers. Some kids go on like idiots - would do ANYTHING to be cool, and I think it's the kids who don't bother with all that that seem like the real non conformists.

Steodonn · 03-03-2011 02:02AM

To some passing I guess me and my friends would look alot like the people the OP saw. The fact is though that if you ask us to move out of your way nicely we would say sorry and move to allow you to pass. We don't set out to piss people off and we do try to avoid it. The majority of teens aren't out to intimidate you

Khyra24 · 03-03-2011 02:06AM

Dudess wrote: »

Khyra, you can be sure I wasn't allowed do those things either, but I did them behind my parents' back because it had gotten to a stage where they couldn't be watching me all the time. I don't think less of anyone who didn't do that stuff as a teen whatsoever - and believe me, I wasn't that adventurous, and I didn't go on to experience a whole lot of different things.

I was extremely tame compared to some of my peers. Some kids go on like idiots - would do ANYTHING to be cool, and I think it's the kids who don't bother with all that that seem like the real non conformists.

Ahh I couldn't possibly do anything behind my parents back because they always find out. I'm a terrible liar you see >_<

My parents: "Who did you hang out with?"
Me: "...what are you on about?...no one..."
My parents: "Why were you out so late then? What did you do?"
Me: "I'm gonna go change now..."

My parents are like hawks. THEY'RE CRAZY! It does drive me mad sometimes.

You're way more adventurous than I ever was. I'm jealous.

I'm not sure about who the real non conformists are but I personally can conform to many things. I'm a very agreeable person as long as it's reasonable. That's not always the case with some people though.

Metallitroll · 03-03-2011 02:17AM

Steodonn wrote: »

To some passing I guess me and my friends would look alot like the people the OP saw. The fact is though that if you ask us to move out of your way nicely we would say sorry and move to allow you to pass. We don't set out to piss people off and we do try to avoid it. The majority of teens aren't out to intimidate you

yeah i think i know what you mean, for instance i can be walking past a pair of these 'skangers' apologies for the stereoptype but thats sort of what a good proportion of society has become over the past two decades, n the kids will be so bored as to find mirth in snickering, passing a remark, something, anything to unsettle you or bother you, guess they have nothing to discuss for the record in my youth i even made a point of thinking how straight-up rude it would have been to make a sole stranger uncomfortable when in numbers it reeks of something even more pathetic.

there's defo less etiquette out there i have watched standards crumble for a while now, funny thing is with it they are commanding more respect

Trog · 03-03-2011 02:18AM

indough wrote: »

They certainly had no respect for birds. Loitering around in the sky like that, how dare they?

I signed in just to thank this. Good work.

Metallitroll · 03-03-2011 02:25AM

Trog wrote: »

I signed in just to thank this. Good work.

high esteem indeed, that post reminds me i watched one young mong actually climb into a tree, remove a birds nest ad proceed to drop-kick each n every egg therein. they all exploded on his classic max and completely ruined them of course, but for a brief moment in time that boy was occupied.

meoklmrk91 · 03-03-2011 02:31AM

Sometimes as a young person I feel like we can do nothing right. Seriously I get the fact that there are some complete and utter arses out there but I don't think that they exclusively belong to the 13 to 20 age group and then magically turn into wonderful law abiding people who can't put a step wrong once they no longer have ''teen'' at the end of their age.

I just think that people are more likely to think the very worst of young people no matter what they do. For instance last year I went to my friends younger brothers football match with her and two other friends. We went stood in the stands and like everyone else cheered on the team. Two days later we found out that we had been reported to the local GAA for ''roaring abuse'' at the other teams supporters and smoking joints at 3 o clock in the day at an under sixteens match. 3 of the 4 of us smoked a cigarette each which came from a pack, it wasn't even a rolly and as for the roaring abuse part, two of us aren't even from the town the club was from we just clapped and cheered for our friends little brother, my other friends did the same.

Young lads acting the fool.

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