Irelands Best City

Young_gunner · 02-03-2011 09:05PM

Cork

UsernameInUse wrote: »

No, my friend.

The only reason Dublin attracts bands, comedians, entertainers ect is because we're so close to London. We're, unintentionally in a very strategic position geographically.

Look at Sao Paulo, Brazil. They don't receive the kind of things you listed and they've a population of over 20 million. It's strictly the geography and the market.

Don't really understand this point ? Sure geography and market are part of what makes a city a city........?

Mr Cork Man · 02-03-2011 09:15PM

Cork

I think both Dublin and Cork and you could throw in Galway too are as good as any city in europe.The only problem is that other cities in europe don't have junkies loitering around the city centre and that has become a Cork problem too over the last 5 years and skangers/scobes roaming the streets.In general i think Irelands major cities are very poorly policed.If the boardwalk was in a city in europe it would a tourist attraction not the junkie and scumbag hangout that is was allowed to turn into in Dublin or should i say Ireland.

UsernameInUse · 02-03-2011 09:16PM

Young_gunner wrote: »

Don't really understand this point ? Sure geography and market are part of what makes a city a city........?

The bands come here because they follow the money. They come to Ireland because we're in a very good location, geographically. Because we're so close to London, i.e - one of the most important cities in the world, it is quite logical to come to Ireland (a 40 minute plane flight) and Dublin, as it's the most densely populated location on the island.

If we were on the other side of the planet - we wouldn't receive them quarter as frequently. And, we don't have a great social scene either as you mentioned. I'm not sure you're aware of this, but we have the most dead social scene in Europe. Our closing times are ran by the Government, our sales licenses are ran by the Government - everything which can inhibit a vibrant social scene is hampered by the nature of our intrusive Government. Our social scene is regulated from top to bottom.

ascanbe · 02-03-2011 09:19PM

UsernameInUse wrote: »

The bands come here because they follow the money. They come to Ireland because we're in a very good location, geographically. Because we're so close to London, i.e - one of the most important cities in the world, it is quite logical to come to Ireland (a 40 minute plane flight) and Dublin, as it's the most densely populated location on the island.

If we were on the other side of the planet - we wouldn't receive them quarter as frequently. And, we don't have a great social scene either as you mentioned. I'm not sure you're aware of this, but we have the most dead social scene in Europe. Our closing times are ran by the Government, our sales licenses are ran by the Government - everything which can inhibit a vibrant social scene is hampered by the nature of our intrusive Government.

I thought they came here because we're the best audience in the world and they really love Ireland. That's what they told me, anyway.

Mr Cork Man · 02-03-2011 09:23PM

Cork

I hope people voting in the poll are not violating the no voting for your native place rule.:pac:

galwayrush · 02-03-2011 09:25PM

Cork

Best city for what>?
They all have their good points.

dxhound2005 · 02-03-2011 09:30PM

There are 5 officially designated cities in the North. Belfast, Derry, Armagh, Newry and Lisburn.

Young_gunner · 02-03-2011 09:41PM

Cork

UsernameInUse wrote: »

The bands come here because they follow the money. They come to Ireland because we're in a very good location, geographically. Because we're so close to London, i.e - one of the most important cities in the world, it is quite logical to come to Ireland (a 40 minute plane flight) and Dublin, as it's the most densely populated location on the island.

If we were on the other side of the planet - we wouldn't receive them quarter as frequently. And, we don't have a great social scene either as you mentioned. I'm not sure you're aware of this, but we have the most dead social scene in Europe. Our closing times are ran by the Government, our sales licenses are ran by the Government - everything which can inhibit a vibrant social scene is hampered by the nature of our intrusive Government. Our social scene is regulated from top to bottom.

i still don't get your point, we're close to London, that's an advantage Dublin has - sin é, its never not going to have it?

the social life here is world class, i've been out in Melbourne and its dodgy as hell, LA, everywhere closes at 1.45am, London is too pricey and impossible to get around, New York is dead bar the wkend.....

rua327 · 02-03-2011 09:43PM

Waterford

Limerick IS a city. If I remember correctly, there are a number of factors that make a city a city including population and some other bizarre ones such as having 2 cathedrals and a university etc. Dublin Cork Limerick Galway Waterford Kilkenny are all cities as far as I am aware.

Seaneh · 02-03-2011 09:46PM

Limerick

I'd say Galway, moved here over dublin because I think its a better city. After Galway I'd prefer cork. Then dublin. Limerick is bottom of the pile for me...

PeterIanStaker · 02-03-2011 09:46PM

Limerick

Galway just for the hazy drinking memories and the occasional burst of sunshine.

galwayrush · 02-03-2011 09:50PM

Cork

Went for Dublin because Rush are playing there in may.:cool:

Mr Cork Man · 02-03-2011 09:59PM

Cork

galwayrush wrote: »

Went for Dublin because Rush are playing there in may.:cool:

The best night of my life was November 2010 in Dublin for the Yes concert at the olympia.As far as im concerned the only truly great prog rock musician to come out of the other side of the atlantic was Frank Zappa.:pac:

sagat2 · 02-03-2011 10:01PM

Galway

Voted for Cork because I couldn't vote for Dublin. If I could Dublin would win hands down. Size, variety of neighbourhoods, diversity of entertainment, transit system, airport, seaport, museums, educational facilities, industry and economic importance.

Belfast is the only other "proper" city on the island as in if we were to ever be invaded by a modern power it would be the second most important strategic location for them to capture. However I don't very much like the place and would never live there.

Galway is lovely, like an Irish themed restaurant in Disneyland with plastic Leprechauns and fiddley music. But it's not a City it's a town.

Limerick feels more like a City than Galway but despite a bit of nice Georgian architecture and the castle it's a ****hole.

Kilkenny barely bigger than Bray.

Waterford by anywhere elses reckoning would be a medium sized town.

Derry to my shame I have never visited.

Cork despite the attitude and inferiority complex of the natives feels like a small charming city you'd find on the continent, some place you've never heard of but pass through on a random business trip and have a laugh despite there being very little to do. That is why I've chosen it but lets be fair we are a one city nation.

OPENROAD · 02-03-2011 10:02PM

Cork

galwayrush wrote: »

I've never seen a thread like this in AH before.....:pac::pac:

In fairness compared to some threads that seem to be repeated every other month, I think we have only had this one once in recent months, so for AH it is like we never had it before.

Anyway Dublin, haven't really been anywhere else in the country apart from Galway which I wan't all that impressed with. Might give it another go one of these days.

Captain_Generic · 02-03-2011 10:05PM

Cork

OPENROAD wrote: »

Galway which I wan't all that impressed with. Might give it another go one of these days.

No thats pretty much it

Mr Cork Man · 02-03-2011 10:08PM

Cork

sagat2 wrote: »

Voted for Cork because I couldn't vote for Dublin. If I could Dublin would win hands down. Size, variety of neighbourhoods, diversity of entertainment, transit system, airport, seaport, museums, educational facilities, industry and economic importance.

Belfast is the only other "proper" city on the island as in if we were to ever be invaded by a modern power it would be the second most important strategic location for them to capture. However I don't very much like the place and would never live there.

Galway is lovely, like an Irish themed restaurant in Disneyland with plastic Leprechauns and fiddley music. But it's not a City it's a town.

Limerick feels more like a City than Galway but despite a bit of nice Georgian architecture and the castle it's a ****hole.

Kilkenny barely bigger than Bray.

Waterford by anywhere elses reckoning would be a medium sized town.

Derry to my shame I have never visited.

Cork despite the attitude and inferiority complex of the natives feels like a small charming city you'd find on the continent, some place you've never heard of but pass through on a random business trip and have a laugh despite there being very little to do. That is why I've chosen it but lets be fair we are a one city nation.

I think there is plenty to do in Cork there's some great pubs and the shopping facilities there is as good as the shopping facilities Dublin for instance there is nothing like the english market in Dublin.It's a much smaller city than Dublin all right but you get a lot of bang for your buck out of it.As for a 1 city nation there 5 official cities in Ireland and Dublin is quite dull comapred to other cities in the world.:pac:

fudgie101 · 02-03-2011 10:10PM

Galway

Cork is the capital lads. We have deanos in douglas and the turkish hair dressers, player! What more could you ask for!

saywhatyousee · 02-03-2011 10:12PM

Kilkenny

rua327 wrote: »

Limerick IS a city. If I remember correctly, there are a number of factors that make a city a city including population and some other bizarre ones such as having 2 cathedrals and a university etc. Dublin Cork Limerick Galway Waterford Kilkenny are all cities as far as I am aware.

Where are the univeristy's in Waterford and Kilkenny?

UsernameInUse · 02-03-2011 10:14PM

Young_gunner wrote: »

i still don't get your point, we're close to London, that's an advantage Dublin has - sin é, its never not going to have it?

the social life here is world class, i've been out in Melbourne and its dodgy as hell, LA, everywhere closes at 1.45am, London is too pricey and impossible to get around, New York is dead bar the wkend.....

If you truly believe Dublin has a better nightlife and social scene than New York, London, Melbourne and L.A, then you're entitled to your opinion but you're in the minority, I'm afraid, and by quite a far stretch too.

You're naming cities with legendary status - it is a fact that Government inhibit a vibrant scene from developing, it's a fact. Are you aware that nightclubs are actually illegal in Ireland? Have you ever wondered why we don't have international brands? Don't think I'm saying it's through any fault of our own - but the market we have allowed our Government to create is not favourable in creating a truly exceptional social scene.

London is expensive - but don't forget that it's your Government who are trying to abolish free trade. Dublin is one of the most expensive cities in the world, I find it hard to believe that you have somehow come to the conclusion that the cities you've listed are in any way, shape or form, not in a league of their own.

mikemac · 02-03-2011 10:15PM

Derry

Waterford is Ireland's oldest city I believe

Voted for Belfast, lived there and enjoyed it greatly
Only one vote so far, no love for Belfast

OPENROAD · 02-03-2011 10:31PM

Cork

UsernameInUse wrote: »

If you truly believe Dublin has a better nightlife and social scene than New York, London, Melbourne and L.A, then you're entitled to your opinion but you're in the minority, I'm afraid, and by quite a far stretch too.

You're naming cities with legendary status - it is a fact that Government inhibit a vibrant scene from developing, it's a fact. Are you aware that nightclubs are actually illegal in Ireland? Have you ever wondered why we don't have international brands? Don't think I'm saying it's through any fault of our own - but the market we have allowed our Government to create is not favourable in creating a truly exceptional social scene.

London is expensive - but don't forget that it's your Government who are trying to abolish free trade. Dublin is one of the most expensive cities in the world, I find it hard to believe that you have somehow come to the conclusion that the cities you've listed are in any way, shape or form, not in a league of their own.

+1

Though not sure about being one of the most expensive, for our size though we are still far too expensive for most items. Was always amazed at house prices and retail rentals during the "Celtic Tiger" in comparison to London.

starbelgrade · 02-03-2011 10:33PM

fudgie101 wrote: »

Cork is the capital lads. We have deanos in douglas and the turkish hair dressers, player! What more could you ask for!

Less knackers?

saywhatyousee · 02-03-2011 10:34PM

Kilkenny

Ireland best city only one answer Dublin.
Cork: bar Patrick street the rest of it is a hilly kip
Galway: to small it's only one street really,and it seems to be soley inhabited by alcoholics
Limerick: nice place and friendly people gets a bit of a unfair rep in my opinion
Waterford : more or less the same as galway except the pubs are not as packed
Kilkenny: have not been in about 15 years so unfair to pass comment
Derry: nice place,some good shopping
Belfast:was only there for a day trip seemed alright

UsernameInUse · 02-03-2011 10:54PM

OPENROAD wrote: »

+1

Though not sure about being one of the most expensive, for our size though we are still far too expensive for most items. Was always amazed at house prices and retail rentals during the "Celtic Tiger" in comparison to London.

That's through Government interference. They're not letting the market balance itself out. Inflation was driven up with the printing of money - everybody parties and then it hits the ceiling i.e - recession. Stopping the printing presses will be very hard for us for a few years, but it's a fact that prices will hit the floor from your loaf of bread to your house prices i.e - everybody struggles at the start, but in the end we party.

Mr Cork Man · 02-03-2011 11:07PM

Cork

saywhatyousee wrote: »

Ireland best city only one answer Dublin.
Cork: bar Patrick street the rest of it is a hilly kip
Galway: to small it's only one street really,and it seems to be soley inhabited by alcoholics
Limerick: nice place and friendly people gets a bit of a unfair rep in my opinion
Waterford : more or less the same as galway except the pubs are not as packed
Kilkenny: have not been in about 15 years so unfair to pass comment
Derry: nice place,some good shopping
Belfast:was only there for a day trip seemed alright

To be honest apart from Graftan Street,St Stephens Green and Dame Street Dublin is quite a hovel.Abbey Street,Talbot Street in fact the whole of the north city centre is horrific.

Ghost Estate · 02-03-2011 11:43PM

Kilkenny

Poor Derry must be feeling left out and Belfast even more. Although never been to belfast so can't vote for them

Dangerous Man · 02-03-2011 11:51PM

Stupid thread. More crap. If you think that any place outside of Dublin actually QUALIFIES as a city - you're deluded. Cork, Galway et al, are just towns. They're not cities. When you go to a city - you understand the difference.

rossie1977 · 02-03-2011 11:58PM

Limerick

belfast is a cleaner, cheaper version of dublin without the junkies on every corner

cork is a smaller version of dublin, same public buildings and everything, its basically just mini dublin

correct answer is galway and it ain't close, easily best town/city in ireland, now if only they could fix the traffic jams and do something about the godawful public transport there then you really would be onto something or yeah and remove some of the crazy people that inhabit the eyre square area, galway has lots of crazy folk

and lol at the guy that said dublin is up there with the best cities in the world, what the f**k are you smoking son :eek:

Son Of A Vidic · 03-03-2011 12:00AM

Dublin barely qualifies as a city for me, let alone the rest on the list.

Irelands Best City

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