Irelands Best City

Mr Cork Man

Right rather than having a cliched my place is better than your place thing you are not allowed to nominate your native place.You can give reasons about why it's great but you can't nominate it.Now i think the best city in Ireland can be picked from these 3 places.

Galway A very nice place it is slightly overrated but when it comes to picking irelands finest cities it's name will alway be mentioned.

Dublin I have to say i quite like Dublin some of the natives are rude and obnoxious but i have been to Dublin plenty of times for concerts and matches and i always have a great time there.The south city is a lot nicer than the north city though.

Cork I may be biased but i think Cork is the nicest and most scenic of irelands cities.The view of the sunset going down over Shandon and the northside is a very special sight,i love the way the river lee splits into two,it has so much charm and character.It's jsut the right size it's a good bit bigger than Galway but it's a lot smaller than Dublin.Cork is and always will be a very special city.

Now for the also rans bearing in mind i have never been to Derry so i can't judge that place.

Limerick I just find it to be avery,dull,bland and depressing place.

Waterford Not as depressing as Limerick but it's shopping facilities are very poor and there is not a lot to see and though there in terms of what you would wan't from a city.

Belfast To be honest Belfast is the most miserable and depressing city that i have ever set foot in yes even more miserable than Limerick.It's very well marketed compared to Dublin and Cork but it's a total con.It's not as nice or as scenic a city as Cork and in terms of what i wan't from a city Dublin beats the **** out of it.Dublin is also a much nicer city and the jackeens aren't that bad.:pac: So bearing in mind that i can't say Cork it's between Dublin and Galway and i have to go with Dublin.

mike65

*cough* you forgot Kilkenny

My name is URL

They're all unique and can't be compared to one another. Like the faeces of different species

hondasam

Limerick

GALWAY !

galwayrush

Cork

I've never seen a thread like this in AH before.....:pac::pac:

Zebra3

Has to be Cark what with it not been Dublin and all that.

Poor Uncle Tom

It has to be Kilmacthropolis....

Mr Cork Man

Cork

hondasam wrote: »

GALWAY !

I hope your not from Galway otherwise your breaking my rules.:pac:

Mr Cork Man

Cork

Zebra3 wrote: »

Has to be Cark what with it not been Dublin and all that.

Remember you can't pick your native place.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

you're being very generous with your definition of a city if you count anything other than dublin in the republic. waterford, cork, kilkenny are all just large towns.

epgc3fyqirnbsx

This is exactly what AH needs!

Castlebar

hondasam

Limerick

Mr Cork Man wrote: »

I hope your not from Galway otherwise your breaking my rules.:pac:

cork man you picked cork :pac:

Galway has everything !

Galway

Dublin

Cork as a last resort :pac:

Mr Cork Man

Cork

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

you're being very generous with your definition of a city if you count anything other than dublin in the republic. waterford, cork, kilkenny are all just large towns.

No disrespect intended to the other cities outside of Dublin and Cork but the population of the greater Cork City area is bigger than Galway and Limerick combined that's not dissing Galway,Limercik,Waterford etc at all im just trying to get a sense of perspective into your head.

Mr Cork Man

Cork

hondasam wrote: »

cork man you picked cork :pac:

Galway has everything !

Galway

Dublin

Cork as a last resort :pac:

I picked Dublin.:pac:

Wolfe Tone

I like Galway, Dublin isnt bad either, havent spent enough time in the rest to comment

hondasam

Limerick

Mr Cork Man wrote: »

I picked Dublin.:pac:

you did ya after you gave cork a glowing reference :pac:

you really picked Dublin over Galway.

Mr Cork Man

Cork

hondasam wrote: »

you did ya after you gave cork a glowing reference :pac:

you really picked Dublin over Galway.

There's more to do there and it's safe enough so as long as you stick to right places as i said already the north city centre can be quite rough but the south city is nice even the libuteez is okay.:pac:

galwayrush

Cork

Mr Cork Man wrote: »

No disrespect intended to the other cities outside of Dublin and Cork but the population of the greater Cork City area is bigger than Galway and Limerick combined that's not dissing Galway,Limercik,Waterford etc at all im just trying to get a sense of perspective into your head.

We in Galway win hands down if you're talking about the crustie population.:D

pragmatic1

Are you mad OP, Belfast is a brilliant city. The only contender for it would be Dublin. The rest are just big towns.

Young_gunner

Cork

Dublin for me, by a distance - in fact i'd say its as good as any city in the world. it attracts world class bands, comedians, entertainers all year round, is compact, friendly and has an amazing social life.........its a bit pricey but what ya gonna do ?!

Mr Cork Man

Cork

galwayrush wrote: »

We in Galway win hands down if you're talking about the crustie population.:D

Vey nice but to be fair we have produced quite a lot more champion sports men and women than Galway and indeed any other county.:D We have crusties in West Cork but seeing that it's not Cork City it would violate the rules if i used that as a selling point.

Mr Cork Man

Cork

pragmatic1 wrote: »

Are you mad OP, Belfast is a brilliant city. The only contender for it would be Dublin. The rest are just big towns.

I just don't like Belfast at all let the UK keep it.:pac:

Mr Cork Man

Cork

Young_gunner wrote: »

Dublin for me, by a distance - in fact i'd say its as good as any city in the world. it attracts world class bands, comedians, entertainers all year round, is compact, friendly and has an amazing social life.........its a bit pricey but what ya gonna do ?!

On a world wide scale i would go with Seattle or Melbourne but that's for another thread.

sollar

Waterford

Derry is another one, its the 4th largets city on the island but not the prettiest.

hondasam

Limerick

Mr Cork Man wrote: »

Vey nice but to be fair we have produced quite a lot more champion sport men and women than Galway and indeed any other county.:D We have crusties in West Cork but seeing that it's not Cork City it would violate the rules if i used that as a selling point.

who we talking about ?

Young_gunner

Cork

Mr Cork Man wrote: »

On a world wide scale i would go with Seattle or Melbourne but that's for another thread.

Never been to Seattle but i'd have Sydney miles ahead of Melbourne, but you're right, that's for another thread...

Tigger

I can't see the poll

UsernameInUse

The only city in Ireland is Dublin, and even that statement is stretching it tenfold.

Personally, I can't consider some place a "city" if I can see one side of it from the other, i.e - the green views of the countryside. Dublin is 600km, London is 900km - now, if the planning authority didn't reject everything over 5 metres, we might be able to fit at least quarter of the population of London into Dublins urban area - making it a city. As is, there are less than 1 million people, half in fact, living in Dublins urban make-up. Is it really a city when you look at what is so clearly superior on Europes continent?

I think Ireland deserves a great city - but as long as Government control every little thing from a lamp-post to a mailbox, we'll never have that. Indeed, it is quite difficult to bring yourself to the conclusion that Dublin is a city when you walk around Hong Kong, Sao Paulo and New York.

Another sign that supports Dublin not being a city is the behaviour of it's inhabitants i.e - everyone is asleep at 11pm.

UsernameInUse

Young_gunner wrote: »

Dublin for me, by a distance - in fact i'd say its as good as any city in the world. it attracts world class bands, comedians, entertainers all year round, is compact, friendly and has an amazing social life.........its a bit pricey but what ya gonna do ?!

No, my friend.

The only reason Dublin attracts bands, comedians, entertainers ect is because we're so close to London. We're, unintentionally in a very strategic position geographically.

Look at Sao Paulo, Brazil. They don't receive the kind of things you listed and they've a population of over 20 million. It's strictly the geography and the market.

sollar

Waterford

UsernameInUse wrote: »

it is quite difficult to bring yourself to the conclusion that Dublin is a city when you walk around Hong Kong, Sao Paulo and New York

Well it can hardly be described as a town.

UsernameInUse

sollar wrote: »

Well it can hardly be described as a town.

Well, it's definitely not a cosmopolitan metropolis.

Young_gunner

Cork

UsernameInUse wrote: »

No, my friend.

The only reason Dublin attracts bands, comedians, entertainers ect is because we're so close to London. We're, unintentionally in a very strategic position geographically.

Look at Sao Paulo, Brazil. They don't receive the kind of things you listed and they've a population of over 20 million. It's strictly the geography and the market.

Don't really understand this point ? Sure geography and market are part of what makes a city a city........?

Mr Cork Man

Cork

I think both Dublin and Cork and you could throw in Galway too are as good as any city in europe.The only problem is that other cities in europe don't have junkies loitering around the city centre and that has become a Cork problem too over the last 5 years and skangers/scobes roaming the streets.In general i think Irelands major cities are very poorly policed.If the boardwalk was in a city in europe it would a tourist attraction not the junkie and scumbag hangout that is was allowed to turn into in Dublin or should i say Ireland.

UsernameInUse

Young_gunner wrote: »

Don't really understand this point ? Sure geography and market are part of what makes a city a city........?

The bands come here because they follow the money. They come to Ireland because we're in a very good location, geographically. Because we're so close to London, i.e - one of the most important cities in the world, it is quite logical to come to Ireland (a 40 minute plane flight) and Dublin, as it's the most densely populated location on the island.

If we were on the other side of the planet - we wouldn't receive them quarter as frequently. And, we don't have a great social scene either as you mentioned. I'm not sure you're aware of this, but we have the most dead social scene in Europe. Our closing times are ran by the Government, our sales licenses are ran by the Government - everything which can inhibit a vibrant social scene is hampered by the nature of our intrusive Government. Our social scene is regulated from top to bottom.

ascanbe

UsernameInUse wrote: »

The bands come here because they follow the money. They come to Ireland because we're in a very good location, geographically. Because we're so close to London, i.e - one of the most important cities in the world, it is quite logical to come to Ireland (a 40 minute plane flight) and Dublin, as it's the most densely populated location on the island.

If we were on the other side of the planet - we wouldn't receive them quarter as frequently. And, we don't have a great social scene either as you mentioned. I'm not sure you're aware of this, but we have the most dead social scene in Europe. Our closing times are ran by the Government, our sales licenses are ran by the Government - everything which can inhibit a vibrant social scene is hampered by the nature of our intrusive Government.

I thought they came here because we're the best audience in the world and they really love Ireland. That's what they told me, anyway.

Mr Cork Man

Cork

I hope people voting in the poll are not violating the no voting for your native place rule.:pac:

galwayrush

Cork

Best city for what>?
They all have their good points.

dxhound2005

There are 5 officially designated cities in the North. Belfast, Derry, Armagh, Newry and Lisburn.

Young_gunner

Cork

UsernameInUse wrote: »

The bands come here because they follow the money. They come to Ireland because we're in a very good location, geographically. Because we're so close to London, i.e - one of the most important cities in the world, it is quite logical to come to Ireland (a 40 minute plane flight) and Dublin, as it's the most densely populated location on the island.

If we were on the other side of the planet - we wouldn't receive them quarter as frequently. And, we don't have a great social scene either as you mentioned. I'm not sure you're aware of this, but we have the most dead social scene in Europe. Our closing times are ran by the Government, our sales licenses are ran by the Government - everything which can inhibit a vibrant social scene is hampered by the nature of our intrusive Government. Our social scene is regulated from top to bottom.

i still don't get your point, we're close to London, that's an advantage Dublin has - sin é, its never not going to have it?

the social life here is world class, i've been out in Melbourne and its dodgy as hell, LA, everywhere closes at 1.45am, London is too pricey and impossible to get around, New York is dead bar the wkend.....

rua327

Waterford

Limerick IS a city. If I remember correctly, there are a number of factors that make a city a city including population and some other bizarre ones such as having 2 cathedrals and a university etc. Dublin Cork Limerick Galway Waterford Kilkenny are all cities as far as I am aware.

Seaneh

Limerick

I'd say Galway, moved here over dublin because I think its a better city. After Galway I'd prefer cork. Then dublin. Limerick is bottom of the pile for me...

PeterIanStaker

Limerick

Galway just for the hazy drinking memories and the occasional burst of sunshine.

galwayrush

Cork

Went for Dublin because Rush are playing there in may.:cool:

Mr Cork Man

Cork

galwayrush wrote: »

Went for Dublin because Rush are playing there in may.:cool:

The best night of my life was November 2010 in Dublin for the Yes concert at the olympia.As far as im concerned the only truly great prog rock musician to come out of the other side of the atlantic was Frank Zappa.:pac:

sagat2

Galway

Voted for Cork because I couldn't vote for Dublin. If I could Dublin would win hands down. Size, variety of neighbourhoods, diversity of entertainment, transit system, airport, seaport, museums, educational facilities, industry and economic importance.

Belfast is the only other "proper" city on the island as in if we were to ever be invaded by a modern power it would be the second most important strategic location for them to capture. However I don't very much like the place and would never live there.

Galway is lovely, like an Irish themed restaurant in Disneyland with plastic Leprechauns and fiddley music. But it's not a City it's a town.

Limerick feels more like a City than Galway but despite a bit of nice Georgian architecture and the castle it's a ****hole.

Kilkenny barely bigger than Bray.

Waterford by anywhere elses reckoning would be a medium sized town.

Derry to my shame I have never visited.

Cork despite the attitude and inferiority complex of the natives feels like a small charming city you'd find on the continent, some place you've never heard of but pass through on a random business trip and have a laugh despite there being very little to do. That is why I've chosen it but lets be fair we are a one city nation.

OPENROAD

Cork

galwayrush wrote: »

I've never seen a thread like this in AH before.....:pac::pac:

In fairness compared to some threads that seem to be repeated every other month, I think we have only had this one once in recent months, so for AH it is like we never had it before.

Anyway Dublin, haven't really been anywhere else in the country apart from Galway which I wan't all that impressed with. Might give it another go one of these days.

Captain_Generic

Cork

OPENROAD wrote: »

Galway which I wan't all that impressed with. Might give it another go one of these days.

No thats pretty much it

Mr Cork Man

Cork

sagat2 wrote: »

Voted for Cork because I couldn't vote for Dublin. If I could Dublin would win hands down. Size, variety of neighbourhoods, diversity of entertainment, transit system, airport, seaport, museums, educational facilities, industry and economic importance.

Belfast is the only other "proper" city on the island as in if we were to ever be invaded by a modern power it would be the second most important strategic location for them to capture. However I don't very much like the place and would never live there.

Galway is lovely, like an Irish themed restaurant in Disneyland with plastic Leprechauns and fiddley music. But it's not a City it's a town.

Limerick feels more like a City than Galway but despite a bit of nice Georgian architecture and the castle it's a ****hole.

Kilkenny barely bigger than Bray.

Waterford by anywhere elses reckoning would be a medium sized town.

Derry to my shame I have never visited.

Cork despite the attitude and inferiority complex of the natives feels like a small charming city you'd find on the continent, some place you've never heard of but pass through on a random business trip and have a laugh despite there being very little to do. That is why I've chosen it but lets be fair we are a one city nation.

I think there is plenty to do in Cork there's some great pubs and the shopping facilities there is as good as the shopping facilities Dublin for instance there is nothing like the english market in Dublin.It's a much smaller city than Dublin all right but you get a lot of bang for your buck out of it.As for a 1 city nation there 5 official cities in Ireland and Dublin is quite dull comapred to other cities in the world.:pac:

fudgie101

Galway

Cork is the capital lads. We have deanos in douglas and the turkish hair dressers, player! What more could you ask for!

saywhatyousee

Kilkenny

rua327 wrote: »

Limerick IS a city. If I remember correctly, there are a number of factors that make a city a city including population and some other bizarre ones such as having 2 cathedrals and a university etc. Dublin Cork Limerick Galway Waterford Kilkenny are all cities as far as I am aware.

Where are the univeristy's in Waterford and Kilkenny?

UsernameInUse

Young_gunner wrote: »

i still don't get your point, we're close to London, that's an advantage Dublin has - sin é, its never not going to have it?

the social life here is world class, i've been out in Melbourne and its dodgy as hell, LA, everywhere closes at 1.45am, London is too pricey and impossible to get around, New York is dead bar the wkend.....

If you truly believe Dublin has a better nightlife and social scene than New York, London, Melbourne and L.A, then you're entitled to your opinion but you're in the minority, I'm afraid, and by quite a far stretch too.

You're naming cities with legendary status - it is a fact that Government inhibit a vibrant scene from developing, it's a fact. Are you aware that nightclubs are actually illegal in Ireland? Have you ever wondered why we don't have international brands? Don't think I'm saying it's through any fault of our own - but the market we have allowed our Government to create is not favourable in creating a truly exceptional social scene.

London is expensive - but don't forget that it's your Government who are trying to abolish free trade. Dublin is one of the most expensive cities in the world, I find it hard to believe that you have somehow come to the conclusion that the cities you've listed are in any way, shape or form, not in a league of their own.