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Would you consider this racist/offensive towards Irish people?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭wexfordia


    Downlinz wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7rsrKQtvYQ



    Thoughts? I personally don't care for jokes like that against and sort of felt a bit insulted. :(

    It doesn't really bother me to be honest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Meh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    NO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    How utterly offensive! Let's get up in arms over it! Who can we complain to!? :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Jimmy the Wheel


    Meh. Just a couple of jokes.

    Some people go out of their way to be offended.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭Rabble Rabble


    Not in the least. Its ironic. Does it have to be explained. Dara is overturning the Irish stereotypes ( says Dee) and while he is over here he is going to tarmac my drive. IRONY!!!

    Geez. I blame Alannis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Hurricane-Dean


    Cop on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭Chaotic_Forces


    Jack Dee is a horrible man and cannot tell a joke for the life of him. So no, I pity him. Do I find it offensive, yes. Is he doing it just to get a few laughs from an English audience, yes. So frankly, he's an eejit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭Pauleta


    I didnt find it funny but im not offended. I think people who would get offended are insecure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Tenzing


    It's hard to offend us. We love any attention.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭Wolf Club


    Bloody racist! I can't believe a satirical comedian like Jack Dee would say something like this, it's an outrage!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    Not in the least. Its ironic. Does it have to be explained. Dara is overturning the Irish stereotypes ( says Dee) and while he is over here he is going to tarmac my drive. IRONY!!!

    Geez. I blame Alannis

    Don't you think its a bit offensive that they'd carry a stereotype like that in this day and age for it to need overturning?

    Maybe I'm reading too much into it but I can't imagine the same kind of "ah sure its only a joke" if he was joking about a black guy doing some kind of slavery for him. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭Mindkiller


    No, because its a joke on racism rather than a racist joke. And I lol'd anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭ElectraX


    Nah, wouldn't be offended by that at all. It's the nature of comedy, I'm sure if a Scottish or Welsh comedian had just walked off the stage, he'd have some stereotypical jokes about them lined up too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    bluto63 wrote: »
    How utterly offensive! Let's get up in arms over it! Who can we complain to!? :mad:
    I don't know, I usually blamed all these things on Finna Fail, what are we to do now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭DonJose


    Pikey lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    ElectraX wrote: »
    Nah, wouldn't be offended by that at all. It's the nature of comedy, I'm sure if a Scottish or Welsh comedian had just walked off the stage, he'd have some stereotypical jokes about them lined up too.

    In my book theres things thats ok to poke fun at like the Irish being alcoholics or the welsh shagging sheep or something like that. But alluding to colonialism and suggesting the Irish are inferior or thieves or stuff like this particularly in the atmosphere of making it against a lone Irish person towards an English audience just seems in bad taste.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Tenzing


    Just watched it there, seems to be joking about travellers rather than the Irish.

    Irish jokes are fair game now as the Irish are not discriminated against like in the past.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Not a single original joke though, which is more alarming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Galway K9


    We make racist jokes all the time, has to go both ways, cant just give and not take a slaggin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Who. Gives. A sh!te.

    Seriously, it's stuff like this, and stuff like say the Andy Gray incident, which actually makes the 'offended' group look bad. LEARN TO TAKE A JOKE, PEOPLE!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,090 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    *Post reserved for suitable Joe Duffy reference/snid remark or bleeding hell Joe comment*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭Chaotic_Forces


    Galway K9 wrote: »
    We make racist jokes all the time, has to go both ways, cant just give and not take a slaggin.

    Except that racism is generally wrong. Picking up on a sterotype is one thing (like slagging the Irish when the audience is Irish) but come on, all he did was the same as going to a KKK meeting and getting a bunch of cheap laughs by making racist jokes towards blacks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    People need to stop being so sensitive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    You see a joke works like this:

    You say a thing and then you say another thing that goes against the first thing you said and the incongruity of it makes people laugh.

    In this instance Jack Dee says that Dara goes against the stereotypical Oirish Paddy image and then says that he is going to do something that is a stereotypical Oirish Paddy thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Except that racism is generally wrong. Picking up on a sterotype is one thing (like slagging the Irish when the audience is Irish) but come on, all he did was the same as going to a KKK meeting and getting a bunch of cheap laughs by making racist jokes towards blacks.

    Considering an Irishman had just walked off stage, Jack Dee has a huge Irish fanbase stretching back over 20 years, and it's very likely there was Irish people in the audience, then it's safe to say Jack Dee was not being directly racist.

    We make jokes about Britain all the time, as a Corkman I make jokes about Kerry and Dublin frequently.

    We make constant jokes about the Welsh, U.S., Canadians and so on. Is that racism, or just friendly banter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,537 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    racist?? since when did the irish become a different race than the british


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    I laughed. Stereotypes are funny.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Galway K9


    *Post reserved for suitable Joe Duffy reference/snid remark or bleeding hell Joe comment*

    You mean John Duffy hee hee :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭Chaotic_Forces


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Considering an Irishman had just walked off stage, Jack Dee has a huge Irish fanbase stretching back over 20 years, and it's very likely there was Irish people in the audience, then it's safe to say Jack Dee was not being directly racist.

    We make jokes about Britain all the time, as a Corkman I make jokes about Kerry and Dublin frequently.

    We make constant jokes about the Welsh, U.S., Canadians and so on. Is that racism, or just friendly banter.

    Friendly banter is fine but I'm quite sure if a black guy had done his routine and suddenly Jack Dee comes along and starts spouting out racist material your tone would change. If he wants to rip on Dara, fine, go ahead. If he wants to rip on the Irish in the terms of "Paddy Irishman being the punchline", go ahead. But blatnatly having a go at the Irish is a bit too much.


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