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US Vaccine makers immune from lawsuits

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  • #32
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,909 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    The other point to note about the ruling is that part of the reason that SCOTUS (And every lower court) ruled against was that it was the wrong forum. The correct place to sue for compensation against vaccine side-effects is the US Court of Federal Claims, not the federal district court system and the apellate tiers. It's a part of the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.

    NTM


  • #33
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    whiteonion wrote: »
    Yes killing bacteria can be a bad thing, for example antibiotics are known to give people stomach problems.

    As a result of them killing bacteria?

    At the end of the day it's your own body and you can do what you want with it, but I seriously doubt that you'd refuse medical intervention if you suddenly developed a serious illness. Opting not to get vaccinated is one thing, herd immunity will still protect you, and not taking painkillers is a common enough choice that people make, but would you be distrustful of a blood transfusion after a serious accident or chemotherapy after a cancer diagnosis?


  • #34
    whiteonion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭whiteonion


    My name is URL wrote: »
    As a result of them killing bacteria?

    At the end of the day it's your own body and you can do what you want with it, but I seriously doubt that you'd refuse medical intervention if you suddenly developed a serious illness. Opting not to get vaccinated is one thing, herd immunity will still protect you, and not taking painkillers is a common enough choice that people make, but would you be distrustful of a blood transfusion after a serious accident or chemotherapy after a cancer diagnosis?

    I would not be to distrustful of a blood transfusion but I would not undergo chemotherapy, since chemo seems to make things worse for many cancer patients.


  • #35
    Turtwig
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    Overheal wrote: »
    Heh, I almost laughed.

    Not sure about vaccines now, but medicine they can and regularly do get things out to market which are unsafe. You see them on TV every 8th commercial for about a year, saying how great it helps you with your asthma, bla bla bla; "Side effects may include Asthma-related death, etc"; 2 years later a Law Firm runs a commercial asking anyone who has taken the drug to contact them for the class action lawsuit, since the drug has been recalled for causing pancreatic cancer or something like that.

    While what you are saying is true, to be fair to our health practitioners they rarely, if ever, prescribe any of the drugs you see on tv and with good reason. Most of stuff advertised on tv is fluff that exploits soft broadcasting rules. People buying drugs they see on tv is almost the exact same as people who don't bother following medical advice.


  • #36
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    whiteonion wrote: »
    If I'd develop type 2-diabetes I certainly would NOT take any insulin. I'd just go on a very low carb, high fat diet. I was never vaccinated against whopping cough. It's a childhood disease children go through. It's not dangerous. I had whopping cough but it didn't hurt me none.

    lol, "Whooping Cough" - it kills about 30,000 people a year. It's a bacteria which causes server issues in the respiratory system. About 1 in 200 babies who get it will die, about 2 in 200 will develop severe seizaures, and about 11% of people who contract it will end up dealing with pneumonia issues.

    I am well aware of your stance on all things medical but you really should attempt to show some understanding of these things if you plan on being so publicly opinionated about them.


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  • #37
    Pace2008
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    whiteonion wrote: »
    If I'd develop type 2-diabetes I certainly would NOT take any insulin. I'd just go on a very low carb, high fat diet. I was never vaccinated against whopping cough. It's a childhood disease children go through. It's not dangerous. I had whopping cough but it didn't hurt me none.
    I smoke 10-20 cigarettes a day. I have not yet suffered any ill health effects as a result. Therefore, smoking tobacco is in fact safe, despite the caveats from those involved in the health industry.

    This is a fair and logical assertion by your standards, aye?


  • #38
    kylith
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    whiteonion wrote: »
    I would not be to distrustful of a blood transfusion but I would not undergo chemotherapy, since chemo seems to make things worse for many cancer patients.
    How so? Chemo is no barrel of laughs, but it's better than the alternative. Again: if the choice is between temporary intense crapness or permanent death the vast majority will choose the crapness.


  • #39
    partyatmygaff
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    OP what do you think of Homeopathy? You'd seem the type to believe in nonsense such as water memory.


  • #40
    mohawk
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    whiteonion wrote: »
    Oh yeah like the "safe" swine flu vaccine that gave heaps of kids narcolepsy and some people contracted swine flu even though they got the vaccine. The vaccine industry is just a big scam, like everything else about big pharma it's a scam.

    Yeahvaccines are a scam look at all those people dying of smallpox these days...oh wait it was eradicated years ago by a worldwide vaccine programme


  • #41
    Fremen
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    whiteonion wrote: »
    I never recieved many of the vaccines that other people have recieved and now as an adult I'm much healthier then they are, I'm very rarely ill and I meet people who are weak and ill all the time. They've got vaccines and meds and they are ill very often. It seems it is their medication and vaccines that are making them ill and weak.

    You're mixing up cause and effect. They're not sick because they're on meds, they're on meds because they're sick. You're also extrapolating from a single data point. My sister only has one leg therefore all women only have one leg.

    I suppose you think we can all heal ourselves with the power of prayer or some such nonsense.


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  • #42
    fontanalis
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    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    OP what do you think of Homeopathy? You'd seem the type to believe in nonsense such as water memory.

    Apparently the excrement that works it's way into water and is retained has great healing properties.


  • #43
    whiteonion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭whiteonion


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    OP what do you think of Homeopathy? You'd seem the type to believe in nonsense such as water memory.

    No I don't believe in homeopathy.


  • #44
    My name is URL
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    whiteonion wrote: »
    No I don't believe in homeopathy.

    How come you have so much faith in the stories which you start threads about while at the same time none in the medical establishment?


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