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Do we cherish our republic enough?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    I'm ashamed of what Irishness has become. The Shinners (gatekeepers of criminality and injustice on this island) have corralled the concept of republicianism and twisted it for thier own gain. You can't be a republican without it standing for a hotch-potch of anti-establishment, para-socialistic anti rule of law ramblings of a deranged lunatic fringe.

    Fianna Fail and Fine Gael have become the bastions of personal accrual of wealth and status. They act in concert against the citizens of this country in a bid to further thier own personal wealth.

    Labour are just silver spoon idealogues who are clueless about how to run a modern economy, clinging to failed doctrines that died out forty years ago.

    that is just our political parties. The good denizens of this country are essentially hyenas who have spent the last decade eating the tails off one another for personal gain. There is zero spirit or pride in where we are from. You have west of Ireland people who move to Dublin and can not wait to ditch their accent and deny their roots and upbringing. You have people from across they country ashamed of their parish, their little corner of this country. You have people of all stripes mimicking fake MTV 'realities' in the vain belief that this is social progression.

    There is no civic pride in the citizens of Ireland, this lack of pride has seen us elect and more shamefully re-elect the Jackie Healy-Rae's, the Ivor Callelly's and a far too long a list of rogues and shills.

    The talk of pride, we adorn our national flag with beer slogans kowtowed to a minority who refused to stand as an island for our national anthem. we look back on our history with such utter disdain.

    Just two examples; He may not have been perfect, but Eamon DeValera at least walked the walk and the disgraceful excoriation of his memory should be all our shame. Even the Catholic Church can no longer be defended. Over 1000 years of enlightenment, (argue how you like) education and ecumenicism forgotten because of the wrong doings of a minority. This is not a defence of the shameful behaviour of the Irish Catholic Church and nor is it an apology for it's undue influence over Irish society, but bear this in mind, The Catholic Church influenced the state because for almost a thousand years it was the only semblance of state we had. They educated millions of Irish and clothed and fed and kept countless more from an early grave. It's the lack of balance in the argument that's shameful not the argument itself which is valid.

    we have handed over our present past and future to an unelected minority of purported curators who have and are continuing to dictate how this country is, was and should be viewed.

    When the people of Ireland stop being sheep and start to express their own, valid opinions on how they perceive the country and not parrot and ape and undeserving minority then we'll have a place we can call home with pride.


    Is that what you are on about? Yeah. Well it seems many people bought into his debate and lying during it. A shame really


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭Pauleta


    Connolly would of turned Ireland into a communist country. For me he is a pinhead rather than a patriot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    proud Unionist,i'll respect your republic if you respect Great Britain and Northern Ireland
    Unionists aren't wanted in the republic. Can't even march in their own city in Dublin.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Unionists aren't wanted in the republic. Can't even march in their own city in Dublin.

    no way?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    KeithAFC wrote: »


    Is that what you are on about? Yeah. Well it seems many people bought into his debate and lying during it. A shame really

    You're just a WUM. And a not very bright one at that. Perhaps OWC is more your speed or arguing about Portadown on GAA Board.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    The Republic of Ireland is far from the Irish Republic.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Unionists aren't wanted in the republic. Can't even march in their own city in Dublin.

    bigots aint wanted in dublin big differance but continue fishing there!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    major bill wrote: »
    bigots aint wanted in dublin big differance but continue fishing there!!!

    also to elaborate on this,a small percentage of orange order wanted the march not unionists


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    major bill wrote: »
    bigots aint wanted in dublin big differance but continue fishing there!!!
    I don't want anything to do with Dublin though. Its not in my country but there is people who would like to march in Dublin but RSF won't allow it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    I don't want anything to do with Dublin though. Its not in my country.

    Do you ever holiday outside the United Kingdom ?
    major bill wrote: »
    bigots aint wanted in dublin
    Unfortunately getting rid of RSF and associated scangers is not particularly easy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Ah, here we go. This hasn't been done in a while.

    I see the usual suspects are here already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Do you ever holiday outside the United Kingdom ?


    Unfortunately getting rid of RSF and associated scangers is not particularly easy.
    Feel very uneasy when i go down to the republic. Its weird. As if you are in sheild mode. Id imagine its the same with many unionists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Feel very uneasy when i go down to the republic. Its weird. As if you are in sheild mode. Id imagine its the same with many unionists.

    Shut up, you daft git.

    I say that as an almost Orange man (at one stage), and someone who is friends with many protestants and unionists on BOTH sides of the border.

    I welcome the infraction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Feel very uneasy when i go down to the republic. Its weird. As if you are in sheild mode.
    Stop wearing your police riot gear, of course everyone's going to look at you weird.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Stop wearing your police riot gear, of course everyone's going to look at you weird.

    Why is it just taken for granted that one must have pride in the place they hold a passport for. If a place is a **** hole its a **** hole and you should acknowledge that rathe than simply saying "I AM PROUD OF THIS **** HOLE BY DEFAULT AS IT IS EXPECTED OF ME"



    Not saying ireland is a **** hole:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Shut up, you daft git.

    I say that as an almost Orange man (at one stage), and someone who is friends with many protestants and unionists on BOTH sides of the border.

    I welcome the infraction.
    Just saying how it is. Like when you see tri colours flying from buildings. Its weird. I remember having a gers top on under a jumper and didn't want to take my jumper off lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Just saying how it is. Like when you see tri colours flying from buildings. Its weird.

    Funny. One generally sees far more tricolours flying in (certain parts of) Northern Ireland but aside from that.....

    Tricolours ? In Ireland ???? Gosh !

    KeithAFC wrote: »
    I remember having a gers top on under a jumper and didn't want to take my jumper off lol.
    Didnt you hear they have a supporters club in Dublin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Funny. One generally sees far more tricolours flying in (certain parts of) Northern Ireland but aside from that.....

    Tricolours ? In Ireland ???? Gosh !



    Didnt you hear they have a supporters club in Dublin
    I meant in the republic in general. And yeah i know that but it was a weirder feeling in the republic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    it was a weirder feeling in the republic.

    :confused: Just out of interest how wierd would you find it if you saw (for example) an American flag flying
    1) In Northern Ireland
    2) In the Republic of Ireland
    3) In the United States


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Just saying how it is. Like when you see tri colours flying from buildings. Its weird. I remember having a gers top on under a jumper and didn't want to take my jumper off lol.

    I haven't seen a tricolour flying on a building, excluding civic buildings, since I don't know when.

    Strange though, a country flying their national flag. What will we think of next, using our own currency in shops?

    Of course you don't want to wear a Rangers top in public, that's like going to South Africa with a "**** ****" slogan on your teeshirt. Some people will agree, but in general, it's a BAD IDEA!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    What will we think of next, using our own currency in shops?

    (Cough Cough)
    going to South Africa with a "Fuck N*****s" slogan
    Fixed the filter ! :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    I haven't seen a tricolour flying on a building, excluding civic buildings, since I don't know when.

    Strange though, a country flying their national flag. What will we think of next, using our own currency in shops?

    Of course you don't want to wear a Rangers top in public, that's like going to South Africa with a "**** ****" slogan on your teeshirt. Some people will agree, but in general, it's a BAD IDEA!
    I liked your 'i know a lot of protestants and Unionists' fake post which we all know isn't really true.

    Just saying how i feel when i go into the republic and the general mood when im with fellow loyalists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    I liked your 'i know a lot of protestants and Unionists' fake post which we all know isn't really true.

    Just saying how i feel when i go into the republic and the general mood when im with fellow loyalists.
    I think keith isnt even a loyalist, surely loyalists cant be this paranoid and insecure, if you hate the republic so much why do you post on a site which is made up of people who make you feel intimidated? Go back to PULSE and moan about feens


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    (Cough Cough)


    Fixed the filter ! :rolleyes:

    Its a valid use of the term, I'm not using it as a derogitory term towards anyone.
    KeithAFC wrote: »
    I liked your 'i know a lot of protestants and Unionists' fake post which we all know isn't really true.

    Just saying how i feel when i go into the republic and the general mood when im with fellow loyalists.

    Explain to me how it's fake?
    I (as a young fella) played in an accordian band (in county Monaghan), was joining the Orange Lodge, went to a school in Fermanagh, went to the 12th July, Rossnowlagh, 12th August and the Last Saturday every year.
    I realised it was all bull****, and gave it up. I still know those people, they're regularly down here, I'm regularly up North.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭Xivilai


    Keiths an alien hes a legal alien! Hes an Ulster Scot in Irelanddd!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Its a valid use of the term, I'm not using it as a derogitory term towards anyone.



    Explain to me how it's fake?
    I (as a young fella) played in an accordian band (in county Monaghan), was joining the Orange Lodge, went to a school in Fermanagh, went to the 12th July, Rossnowlagh, 12th August and the Last Saturday every year.
    I realised it was all bull****, and gave it up. I still know those people, they're regularly down here, I'm regularly up North.
    Do you really expect me to believe that? :D
    I think keith isnt even a loyalist, surely loyalists cant be this paranoid and insecure, if you hate the republic so much why do you post on a site which is made up of people who make you feel intimidated? Go back to PULSE and moan about feens
    Its not paranoia. Just realistic thinking. I don't feel intimidated. Just the experience i get when i go down to the republic. Not as comfortable as i would be in Ulster (N.I).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    if you hate the republic so much why do you post on a site which is made up of people who make you feel intimidated?

    You know whatever about the rights and wrongs of what Keith says there is a certain amount of Irony in the we dont want your lot around here comments from a poster whose username is widely associated with the aspiration to reach out to Catholic, Protestant and Dissenter ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    You know whatever about the rights and wrongs of what Keith says there is a certain amount of Irony in the we dont want your lot around here comments from a poster whose username is widely associated with the aspiration to reach out to Catholic, Protestant and Dissenter ?
    I didnt say he wasnt wanted, Im just curious as to why he posts here if he is intimidated by southern people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Do you really expect me to believe that? :D

    Well blow me down, someone on the Internet doesn't believe me. What will I do?

    What would convince you? Lodge numbers? Band names? School? The amount of times I've been in The Valley in Fivemiletown?

    I have absolutely no reason to lie to you, I find there is no reason to lie on the internet as it's anonymous. I tell the truth, sure noone knows me as anything other than Sofiztikated.

    I really do hope you are just trolling, I really do. I've suspected it for a long time, you always seem to appear for these threads. If not, then I hope to hell you stay the hell out of the Republic. You're bringing down the average IQ of the people here just by breathing the same air.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    I didnt say he wasnt wanted, Im just curious as to why he posts here if he is intimidated by southern people.

    I dunno a lot of people reckon the best way to deal with ones fears is to confront them ?

    Anyway Boards isint exclusively for Southern Irish people*. Its on the world wide web dontcha know.

    Besides isint the fact that Republicans, Loyalists and the rest of us are talking on a forum not a positive development even if we dont all see eye to eye on everything ?

    * Gosh wouldnt that be so partitionist


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