Do you believe that the communion bread is the actual body of christ?

Agricola wrote: »

Yeah, I mean, did the people who ate meat on Fridays back then, did they all go to hell or what? I mean it's mad!

It is indeed. Jesus wouldn't have had any problem with that. Devout Jews while being the most anal folks on earth about most things, don't have the fish on Friday thing. Oh yea and Lent is all about the lack of food between the last harvest and the spring/summer.

KurtRussel wrote: »

Well isn't it better to revere reality than a magic man in the clouds that doesn't actually exist?.

Well I suppose it does depend on what you term reality KR. Reality is quite the shifting concept. I pretty much guarantee if you was around 400 years ago you'd be prostrating himself to some "ski zombie" or other(and can we please please invent some better jokey references than ski zombie/cannibal ?) .

dilbert2 wrote: »

Or maybe, he never lived in the first place?

snuggles285 wrote: »

That is quiet possible and he could be just made up or he existed but the church is covering up who he truely was!

Well if we say Jesus' existence is dubious you better scrape off a few other historical types too. Not least Mohammed. Ye probably reckon Mohammed was defo an historical figure. He must have been. Loads of stuff written about him and its accepted he was.... Eh nope. The only stuff written about him is Islamic and religious in nature and that continues for at least 200+ years after he was supposed to have lived. Not a single peep from any of the cultures around about this great religious general etc. OK you might miss some ex carpenter preacher but hardly a general. Indeed the very earliest islamic records themselves dont even mention him. He probably existed though was embellished after the fact. He probably wasn't called by that name as it means worthy of praise/anointed. Kinda the way Jesus wouldnt have been called Christ for the same reason.

Chances are Jesus existed, was Jewish, a preacher of some renown. I say renown likely as he appeared to stand out at the time and they were up to their nuts with apocalyptic preachers in Judea at the time. The Pythons were on the money there. He wasn't a carpenter either. Beyond that though we've no real idea.

For me both Christianity and Islam spring from a similar source(duh) the old testament/Talmud of the Jews, which seems to hold appeal for something in the Middle Eastern/European nature. Or did anyway. Christianity looks like a local Jewish religion, or offshoot or "heresy" of same that took hold with the Roman empire. While Islam in turn looks like a local offshoot of "heresy" of the Christian spread across the region. There were lots of Christian "Heretics" at the time, Islam very like a mishmash of those. It just happened to make it and like Christianity on the back of a sword and blood and empire. Like pretty much all religions, a turf war with "God" as your big bro helping you out.

Deleted User wrote:

Jesus wept.

He probably did SS. Of all the potential deities I always had a soft spot for Yeshua. Him and Krishna. Right pair o hippies, but both worth emulating in much of their advice. Sidhartha Gautam(sp) the same, though he wasn't a big fan of women at all, which marks him down in my humble. Krishna and JC dug the ladies.

Brenireland wrote: »

But I will pray for the disillusioned.

Throw me in with them B. I like the idea of someone thinking of me. Not taking the piss here BTW. I think it's nice to be in others thoughts if they're trying to save me, even if I dont agree with them. To pay you back I'll think of you and hope you find a balance of contentment for you and yours. Hey if you're right, you'll get serious brownie points for praying for a poor sinner/evil bastid.