Tear down dublin city centre, replace with high rise buildings

Badgermonkey · 16-02-2011 10:49PM

KilOit wrote: »

yeah we need another cold sterile looking city scape, cities in Europe are beautiful because they have a history and tell a story. go move to some boring US city or another city that sprung up in the past few hundred years, Glass buildings as far as the eye can see, yawn. :rolleyes:

I'll give you a tour of downtown Minneapolis if we can both stay awake.

Conor108 · 16-02-2011 10:53PM

Heres a picture of Shanghai in 1990 and then again in 2011. To show what the change would be like. ALSO cool picture...

PICTURE!

wyndhurst · 16-02-2011 10:54PM

bonerm wrote: »

Sometimes I think if Cork could harness all the jealous energy they have towards Dublin then they'd be able to generate enough electricity to power their town for free.

Jealousy?......:D
If you only knew how laughable that is to Cork people.

Jesus Wept · 16-02-2011 10:58PM

Yakult wrote: »

No you dont, animals need to get places too. Plenty of them in the country without a decent mode of transport.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJqSjzSKZpM

Poor Craythur · 16-02-2011 11:03PM

Conor108 wrote: »

Heres a picture of Shanghai in 1990 and then again in 2011. To show what the change would be like. ALSO cool picture...

PICTURE!

I prefer the top picture.

16-02-2011 11:47PM

Architecture in Dublin is very disappointing. There are fabulous buildings but some have been allowed to fall into a state of disrepair while others are surrounded by horrible tacky flats or boring modern glass buildings. There is no co-ordination in development of Dublin's buildings/architecture, things don't blend in and most modern buildings look slightly odd.

I would love to see a modern high-rise Dublin in the docklands and the city center preserved with O' Connell St. and Georgian buildings restored to their famous glory, etc.

Poor Craythur · 17-02-2011 12:12AM

Deleted User wrote: »

while others are surrounded by horrible tacky flats or boring modern glass buildings.

London is just as bad in that respect.

karlog · 17-02-2011 12:26AM

Why bother replacing the buildings there grand where they are.

Story of Ireland

ScissorPaperRock · 17-02-2011 12:38AM

All the pressures in Dublin e.g. infrastructure, public services, transport etc are a result of overinvestment in the region. It has led to imbalanced growth in the country.

One of the failings of the outgoing government was to develop a national spatial strategy to address the imbalanced growth and distribution of power in the country, but never followed it up by implementing it.

Increased investment is much more needed elsewhere tbh.

Zebra3 · 17-02-2011 04:12AM

wyndhurst wrote: »

Tear down dublin city centre & don't replace it

The seat of all evil in today's Ireland

Sure where would all the boggers aspire to live then?

randylonghorn · 17-02-2011 06:45AM

df1985 wrote: »

Apply to build anything over 10 stories in dublin and every second person will object. There has been loads of proposals down the years for high rise, they might get past dublin city council but an bord pleanala either refuse it or chop a few stories off.

The original proposal for spencer dock was high rise, it got so controversial that bertie ahern had to comment on it. It got refused and we got more of the same 6-8 story blocks. The river down at the docklands is wide enough to accomodate high rise, hopefully when things pick up again some may get built, but the nimbys and an taisce will be out in force again.

Harry crosbie has permission for a tower down the at the point, the foundations are in but thats as far as it got.now theres a market/big wheel etc in its place. As far as im aware once things turn around it will be built.

What tf is the fascination with high rise?

Freud would have a field day!!

Hank Delightful Lineman wrote: »

I don't think they should move Benbulben but we need to do a kind of Mt Rushmore jobs on it and carve the faces of some of our beloved past Taosigh on it

Don't think anyone's memories go back that far tbh.

Nothingbetter2d · 17-02-2011 08:45AM

i agree dublin needs to be flattened..... i wonder if obama would oblige us and test out one of his h bombs to see if they really do work

cournioni · 17-02-2011 09:40AM

saywhatyousee wrote: »

Dublin is a fine looking city you sir are a mad man

LOL.

Its a kip. The only good thing about Dublin is its airport and that is when you're leaving and the fact that it isn't in the city.

Best city on this island is Belfast.

Sir Oxman · 17-02-2011 09:51AM

bonerm wrote: »

Sometimes I think if Cork could harness all the jealous energy they have towards Dublin then they'd be able to generate enough electricity to power their town for free.

I like what you did there

Krusader · 17-02-2011 10:53AM

Looking at high rises buildings from afar may look pleasing to the eye, but when your in amongst them its kinda claustrophobic and they block out the majority of sunlight, hence making dublin even more drab

Paris is a perfect example of how it should be done properly

jackiebaron · 17-02-2011 01:22PM

Why do you want to tear down the city centre and replace it with high-rises? What the fcuk is the attraction with high-rise buildings? And why do you want to get rid of the historical old areas? Would you want to flatten the Medina in Tangiers or Casablanca or Damascus and put up blocks of flats there? Sure we could dynamite the GPO while we're at it and build a 20-screen multiplex cinema there.

IMO there are not enough parks in Dublin. Yeah you've got the Phoenix Park and St. Anne's but they're miles from the city centre. All we've got is Stephen's Green and that's bloody tiny. There are some kips in Dublin like North Strand that should be levelled but you could put a gorgeous big park there with all kinds of plants and trees and obviously people could walk to it from the city centre. Most great cities have parks for the people. New York has Central Park and dozens of other smaller ones. London has Regent's, Hyde, Windsor, etc. etc. Paris has loads of parks where people can just laze around on the lawns. Dublin has fcuking none!

jackiebaron · 17-02-2011 01:43PM

wyndhurst wrote: »

Jealousy?......:D
If you only knew how laughable that is to Cork people.

It is jealousy but it's the worst sort of jealousy. It's not wanting to be or have something purely because you CAN'T have or be it.

It's like trying to convince yourself that some bloke's beautiful, clever girlfriend is a conniving, thickheaded cow purely because your own girlfriend/wife is a munter.

All my cousins from Cork are like that....fcuking tits.

jackiebaron · 17-02-2011 01:51PM

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

i agree dublin needs to be flattened..... i wonder if obama would oblige us and test out one of his h bombs to see if they really do work

This from a Carlow resident. The second kippiest and most forgettable dump in Ireland. Moate is number 1.

mikedragon32 · 17-02-2011 01:52PM

I've been to Perth. Fine during the day, but there's nobody there at night, the town center is evaucated after about 8pm because it's just one big CBD.

People only work there, they don't live there. You don't get tourists going to Perth to actually spend time there, it's just somewhere you pass through to get to what WA has to offer. Tourists come to Dublin as a destination. To see Georgian and Victorian buildings etc. Demolishing them is nonsensical.

Is that what you want for Dublin? Really?

jackiebaron · 17-02-2011 01:57PM

mikedragon32 wrote: »

I've been to Perth. Fine during the day, but there's nobody there at night, the town center is evaucated after about 8pm because it's just one big CBD.

People only work there, they don't live there. You don't get tourists going to Perth to actually spend time there, it's just somewhere you pass through to get to what WA has to offer. Tourists come to Dublin as a destination. To see Georgian and Victorian buildings etc. Demolishing them is nonsensical.

Is that what you want for Dublin? Really?

Lots of cities like that in the US as well. City Centre is a ghost town in the evenings and if you want a bit of nightlife you have to go to crappy little pockets of activity out in the suburbs.

Run_to_da_hills · 17-02-2011 02:20PM

On a similar note to the topic,

The former Hume street hospital along with several ajoining georgian houses are currently being ransacked as we speak.

Trucks have been seen arriving at all hours of the night with criminal oppertunists stripping the place of lead flashing, blue Bangor slates and copper fittings.

This property was sold to a developer at the height of the boom for €30 million, it looks like it is now left to rot after plans have been rejected and cash has come to a stand still.

Do you honestly want to see this building replaced by something hideous like the civic offices or ESB headquarters on Fitswilliam St, well that's the road it's heading if nothing is done about it immediately.

Poor Craythur · 17-02-2011 02:37PM

jackiebaron wrote: »

Why do you want to tear down the city centre and replace it with high-rises? What the fcuk is the attraction with high-rise buildings? And why do you want to get rid of the historical old areas?

I'd have no interest in bull-dozing historical areas, but there's something to be said for high-density city leaving as opposed to low-density, depressingly uniform urban sprawl. But Ireland doesn't do apartments or apartment-living well, so there's no point here.

Agree with you about the lack of decent city parks.

Poor Craythur · 17-02-2011 02:40PM

jackiebaron wrote: »

It is jealousy but it's the worst sort of jealousy. It's not wanting to be or have something purely because you CAN'T have or be it.

It's like trying to convince yourself that some bloke's beautiful, clever girlfriend is a conniving, thickheaded cow purely because your own girlfriend/wife is a munter.

All my cousins from Cork are like that....fcuking tits.

Harsh but true!

ro09 · 17-02-2011 03:32PM

whiteonion wrote: »

I think that the city centre in Dublin should be torn down and be completly rebuilt and the current buildings should be replaced with high rise buildings.

Take a look at the skyline in Perth, Western Australia. This is a city with roughly the same population as Dublin.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Perth_Skyline.jpg

Dublin's city centre looks old and depressing but the city centre in Perth looks new and exciting.

Doesn't this sound like a good project to stimulate the economy?

Why should we copy another city. Imagine if everyone thought like you . Every city would look the exact same , it would be boring. Anyway Perth doesn't look all that good to me. I have a better idea why dont you go and live in Perth ? or on Mars!

Effects · 17-02-2011 07:12PM

Where are they getting the keys to get in? Surely if this was the case the cops would be involved?

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

On a similar note to the topic,

The former Hume street hospital along with several ajoining georgian houses are currently being ransacked as we speak.

Trucks have been seen arriving at all hours of the night with criminal oppertunists stripping the place of lead flashing, blue Bangor slates and copper fittings.

This property was sold to a developer at the height of the boom for €30 million, it looks like it is now left to rot after plans have been rejected and cash has come to a stand still.

Do you honestly want to see this building replaced by something hideous like the civic offices or ESB headquarters on Fitswilliam St, well that's the road it's heading if nothing is done about it immediately.

maninasia · 18-02-2011 04:17AM

ScissorPaperRoc wrote: »

All the pressures in Dublin e.g. infrastructure, public services, transport etc are a result of overinvestment in the region. It has led to imbalanced growth in the country.

One of the failings of the outgoing government was to develop a national spatial strategy to address the imbalanced growth and distribution of power in the country, but never followed it up by implementing it.

Increased investment is much more needed elsewhere tbh.

Dublin overinvested...you mean one of the only capital cities in the developed world without a proper subway or rail network...nice.

maninasia · 18-02-2011 04:20AM

jackiebaron wrote: »

Lots of cities like that in the US as well. City Centre is a ghost town in the evenings and if you want a bit of nightlife you have to go to crappy little pockets of activity out in the suburbs.

Medium rise development is best with pockets of high-rise. Dublin needs more parks and green-zones in the city, plant a few more trees, clean up the canals and make them safe and open to use etc. Dublin does have some nice small parks dotted about but you need to know where they are, I ain't telling!
They should move all the scummers out of Mountjoy and into the countryside somewhere, knock it and make a park right there.

Not all high rise cities are dead at night. Many are the complete opposite, it depends how you mix and match.

FunkDrummer · 18-02-2011 04:21AM

Tear down Dublin City Center, replace with thousands of Spires, each one taller and shinier than the last.

maninasia · 18-02-2011 04:32AM

Crosáidí wrote: »

Looking at high rises buildings from afar may look pleasing to the eye, but when your in amongst them its kinda claustrophobic and they block out the majority of sunlight, hence making dublin even more drab

Paris is a perfect example of how it should be done properly

Ever been to La Defense, nice buildings, very boring place and too far out aswell.

Run_to_da_hills · 18-02-2011 05:34AM

Effects wrote: »

Where are they getting the keys to get in? Surely if this was the case the cops would be involved?

They don't need keys to get in as access is available through open doors and smashed windows at the rear of the building. The Gardai have been called several times but can do little about it as they only come back again.

It is ironic that all this pilfering can go on when the place is right under the noses of the Dept of Justice, the OPW, and the Labour Party Head office. .

My sister has seen quite a lot of activity from the RHA building which overlooks the rear of the Hume hospital.

This picture shows access through a wide open door., there are also several smashed windows in the building..

http://i52.tinypic.com/szzuoi.jpg

This picture shows lead flashing and blue Bangor slates removed exposing timber trusses. Any civil engineer or architect will tell you that this will cause very serious structural damage to roof trusses, plaster work on walls ceilings etc allowing damp run down right through the building.

http://i52.tinypic.com/fdg40j.jpg

Tear down dublin city centre, replace with high rise buildings

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