Tear down dublin city centre, replace with high rise buildings

whiteonion

I think that the city centre in Dublin should be torn down and be completly rebuilt and the current buildings should be replaced with high rise buildings.

Take a look at the skyline in Perth, Western Australia. This is a city with roughly the same population as Dublin.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Perth_Skyline.jpg

Dublin's city centre looks old and depressing but the city centre in Perth looks new and exciting.

Doesn't this sound like a good project to stimulate the economy?

saywhatyousee

whiteonion wrote: »

I think that the city centre in Dublin should be torn down and be completly rebuilt and the current buildings should be replaced with high rise buildings.

Take a look at the skyline in Perth, Western Australia. This is a city with roughly the same population as Dublin.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Perth_Skyline.jpg

Dublin's city centre looks old and depressing but the city centre in Perth looks new and exciting.

Doesn't this sound like a good project to stimulate the economy?

Dublin is a fine looking city you sir are a mad man

Penn

But what about everyone currently in Dublin City Centre? And where will all the money come from? And how do magnets work?

Captain_Generic

Barrington wrote: »

But what about everyone currently in Dublin City Centre? And where will all the money come from? And how do magnets work?

The answer to all three is clearly witchcraft

nordisk celt83

We could try to preserve and regenerate the old city core, and build a skyscraper district in the port and docklands!!!

Dublin is very neglected, and it's to the country's shame that the capital is left to rot under the pressure of excessive cars, poor maintainance and apathy.

strokemyclover

You can't have Dublin without the DANK! The DANK is what makes Dublin!!!!

Yakult

**** Dublin, a waste of money it would be.

Why not develope a good public transport system thats not in or around dublin.

orourkeda

Theres nothing really wrong with Dublin city centre and if you love Perth so much go and live there

Jimmy the Wheel

Yakult wrote: »

**** Dublin, a waste of money it would be.

Why not develope a good public transport system thats not in or around dublin.

Because most of the people are in or around Dublin?

CiaranC

Perth is probably the worst city Ive ever been in. A soulless ghost town.

Retail Hell

No.

The Georgian heritage must be kept and maintained.
the IFC is the modern new dublin city, although with a height restriction,

Yes modern cities should have ares of High density population, tall building for office / residential.

Knock all the ****y building including the corpo flats and create new brown field sites for future development,

CiaranC

Yakult wrote: »

**** Dublin, a waste of money it would be.

Why not develope a good public transport system thats not in or around dublin.

You tend to need passengers to justify building public transport.

minidazzler

Barrington wrote: »

But what about everyone currently in Dublin City Centre? And where will all the money come from? And how do magnets work?

Sure the banks could loan it out, not like this venture could possibly fail!

Yakult

CiaranC wrote: »

You tend to need passengers to justify building public transport.

No you dont, animals need to get places too. Plenty of them in the country without a decent mode of transport.

Mr.Crinklewood

Well it worked for Manchester in 1996 and there was Irish involvement then as well.

orourkeda

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Well it worked for Manchester in 1996 and there was Irish involvement then as well.

Manchester is still a smelly dump

Captain_Generic

CiaranC wrote: »

Perth is probably the worst city Ive ever been in. A soulless ghost town.

You must have inadvertently stumbled into a ghost town. I was in Perth and its a lovely place, great nightlife.

Cheap Thrills!

lol

Yeh OP, that's what we need. More empty buildings.

Eric Cartman

no we shouldnt, well not for 10+ years anyway, when Ive bought me a house then yes , until then I dont need anything else to increase house prices inside the M50

mp3kid

whiteonion wrote: »

Dublin's city centre looks old but the city centre in Perth looks new and exciting.

Dublin is over a thousand years old, Perth was only settled by europeans 150 years ago. That'll be the difference.

Overheal

This is about the spire, isn't it.

Jimmy the Wheel

Jimmy the Wheel wrote: »

Because most of the people are in or around Dublin?

... er?

There's 4,450,446 people in Ireland and 1,186,159 of that live in Dublin. So, most people are in or around Dublin, my arse.

hairy sailor

nordisk celt83 wrote: »

We could try to preserve and regenerate the old city core, and build a skyscraper district in the port and docklands!!!

Dublin is very neglected, and it's to the country's shame that the capital is left to rot under the pressure of excessive cars, poor maintainance and apathy.

I agree,alot of tourists come to see historical areas,alot of work needs to be done in some areas in regards restoration,there is talk of moving dublin port to north county dublin & using the port lands for high density building,i'd say thats on hold now but maybe in the next 30-40 years it might go ahead,i like the old parts of dublin some of it has nice character,the old buildings we have now were beautiful when they were built & still will be in 100 years you can't say the same about new buildings,look at liberty hall,another example is most english city's that had large areas destroyed in ww2,these were rebuilt in the 60's as ugly concrete jungles that didnt stand the test of time to well,so basically we'd be building new areas of the city & knocking them every 40 years & starting again,i think the way forward is like most european cities,the old town & the new town

dilbert2

whiteonion wrote: »

I think that the city centre in Dublin should be torn down and be completly rebuilt and the current buildings should be replaced with high rise buildings.

Take a look at the skyline in Perth, Western Australia. This is a city with roughly the same population as Dublin.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Perth_Skyline.jpg

Dublin's city centre looks old and depressing but the city centre in Perth looks new and exciting.

Doesn't this sound like a good project to stimulate the economy?

Is this Tom Parlon? No, seriously is it?

dsmythy

Yeah to hell with all that history......

The_Minister

Google "A New Heart for Dublin".


It was a Progressive Democrat policy document that wanted to Dublin Port and designate it for skyscrapers.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

What would be the point in this OP? It's not needed, it's just an eyesore.

LionelNashe

Deleted User wrote: »

... er?

There's 4,450,446 people in Ireland and 1,186,159 of that live in Dublin. So, most people are in or around Dublin, my arse.

I learned something new. I just Wiki'd that and was surprised how few people live in Meath, Kildare & Wicklow. I thought that half the country lived in or next to Dublin but its more like one third.

I live in Dublin City Centre on the northside, and it could do with some regeneration alright but I don't think that high-rise can be justified economically. I think the planners just need to start with the above-shop-units on the likes of Parnell Street, Capel Street and so on. I was walking down Parnell street one day a couple of years ago and a pane of glass fell from a 3rd floor window and shattered on the footpath. There are also a fair few empty sites standing around, even on O'Connell Street. Maybe the Luas will increase footfall and pick up the area a bit if they run it down O'Connell street in a couple of years.

For Forks Sake

Yet another thread by whiteonion full of utter guff, have a lok at their rap sheet : http://boards.ie/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=17539190#

hmmm

No, I enjoy getting up at 5am to begin my 2 hour commute from Drogheda where housing is affordable. I see my kids on Saturday when I eventually wake up, that's enough for them.

hairy sailor

The_Minister wrote: »

Google "A New Heart for Dublin".


It was a Progressive Democrat policy document that wanted to Dublin Port and designate it for skyscrapers.

there doing something similar in dubai moving port rashid,they've alot more backing & money than us,or at least they used to have,looking at that link you posted i really liked the way they left pigeon house in the middle of it all,i suppose they'll be leaving the adjoining sewage works aswell,typical irish planning,check out this link its a wind up but suits this thread,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aaSLNBOphpE

Poor Craythur

That linked Perth skyline looks entirely soulless. That being said, there are truly wonderful high-rise buildings around the world. But we don't need them. What would the point of countless empty buildings?

Plus, Dublin has some lovely buildings in the city centre!

ejmaztec

Build a new Dublin next to Cork, and the sale of popcorn will increase substantially.

df1985

Apply to build anything over 10 stories in dublin and every second person will object. There has been loads of proposals down the years for high rise, they might get past dublin city council but an bord pleanala either refuse it or chop a few stories off.

The original proposal for spencer dock was high rise, it got so controversial that bertie ahern had to comment on it. It got refused and we got more of the same 6-8 story blocks. The river down at the docklands is wide enough to accomodate high rise, hopefully when things pick up again some may get built, but the nimbys and an taisce will be out in force again.

Harry crosbie has permission for a tower down the at the point, the foundations are in but thats as far as it got.now theres a market/big wheel etc in its place. As far as im aware once things turn around it will be built.

For Forks Sake

hairy sailor wrote: »

check out this link its a wind up but suits this thread,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aaSLNBOphpE

Ah, I remember that. Now where's Alison O'Riordan..........

Duckworth_Luas

Wait for about 20 years before starting large scale redevelopment of Dublin City Centre. By then, most of the recently built apartment blocks will have dissolved in the Irish weather. Seriously, you wouldn't build a treehouse with the rubbish that went into those cardboard shoeboxes.

darragh16

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Well it worked for Manchester in 1996 and there was Irish involvement then as well.

Did anybody else get the reference?

sagat2

Ah yes sparkling exciting skylines they make for better cities don't they?

Take for example Newark New Jersey, charming place especially at night:
http://www.stucker.com/images/040504kz.jpg

or how about Detroit? Can't believe we haven't leveled ancient Dublin to replicate this cultural wonderland:
http://www.detroithomesguide.com/img/detroit-skyline.jpg

and lets not forget Baltimore. Ignore that propaganda that is "The Wire" it truly is a city anyone would be proud to call home:
http://www.ericenders.com/images/photosection/baltimore.jpg

KilOit

yeah we need another cold sterile looking city scape, cities in Europe are beautiful because they have a history and tell a story. go move to some boring US city or another city that sprung up in the past few hundred years, Glass buildings as far as the eye can see, yawn. :rolleyes:

epgc3fyqirnbsx

I thought we were getting a load of chinese lads to build a new city outside Athlone. What ever happened that?

Anyway, the only thing dublin needs is a monorail

smokie2008

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n587/IceIsIce/Liffey2.jpg

Gummy Panda

Can they just bulldoze Moore street?

Its full of horrible tacky shops selling second hand phones, calling cards or wigs for black people. The street looks like ****

Badgermonkey

If you take your eyeline above the shopfronts in the centre of Dublin, you'll find charming detail on many of the buildings which have remained intact since the 1700/1800's.

The destruction of many buildings on Fitwilliam st. by the ESB, Hawkins House, Liam Carrolls developments citywide, the Civic Offices and that god awful thing opposite the Olympia are low points in my opinion.

O'Connell st is a case in point of what went wrong, many magnificent buildings adorned with atrocious shopfronts and bad planning, which chronically fed into the mess that part of the city was allowed to become.

Poor Craythur

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Can they just bulldoze Moore street?

Its full of horrible tacky shops selling second hand phones, calling cards or wigs for black people. The street looks like ****

I like Moore Street.

bonerm

CiaranC wrote: »

Perth is probably the worst city Ive ever been in. A soulless ghost town.

I met a girl from Perth working at Uluru (Ayers Rock) who said she moved there to be somewhere more exciting.

Poor Craythur

Badgermonkey wrote: »

O'Connell st is a case in point of what went wrong, many magnificent buildings adorned with atrocious shopfronts and bad planning, which chronically fed into the mess that part of the city was allowed to become.

Snap, was just about to mention O'Connell street. I used to always be gazing at the buildings from the top deck of buses, thinking how nice they were.

Grafton Street will go the way of O'Connell street if rents don't come down - full of cheap fast food chains.

A lot of buildings in the city centre just need a good clean.

starbelgrade

Fifty hundred billion quid in debt, or whatever it is, and the OP wants to demolish and rebuild an entire city just because he doesn't like the look of it.

I've heard it all now.

What next... move Benbulben coz it blocks the view of the sea for some houses in Sligo?

epgc3fyqirnbsx

starbelgrade wrote: »

Fifty hundred billion quid in debt, or whatever it is, and the OP wants to demolish and rebuild an entire city just because he doesn't like the look of it.

I've heard it all now.

What next... move Benbulben coz it blocks the view of the sea for some houses in Sligo?

I don't think they should move Benbulben but we need to do a kind of Mt Rushmore jobs on it and carve the faces of some of our beloved past Taosigh on it

Dirk Gently

The_Minister wrote: »

Google "A New Heart for Dublin".


It was a Progressive Democrat policy document that wanted to Dublin Port and designate it for skyscrapers.

Yeah I remember that fantastic PD building plan at the height of the building boom. Whatever happened that it didn't go ahead?

For Forks Sake

Hank Delightful Lineman wrote: »

I don't think they should move Benbulben but we need to do a kind of Mt Rushmore jobs on it and carve the faces of some of our beloved past Taosigh on it

Ha! You're 34 years late

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/95669/90508.jpg

ejmaztec

Hank Delightful Lineman wrote: »

I thought we were getting a load of chinese lads to build a new city outside Athlone. What ever happened that?

Anyway, the only thing dublin needs is a monorail

It's completed, but it's ten miles underground.:eek: