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Tear down dublin city centre, replace with high rise buildings

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    That linked Perth skyline looks entirely soulless. That being said, there are truly wonderful high-rise buildings around the world. But we don't need them. What would the point of countless empty buildings?

    Plus, Dublin has some lovely buildings in the city centre!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Build a new Dublin next to Cork, and the sale of popcorn will increase substantially.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭df1985


    Apply to build anything over 10 stories in dublin and every second person will object. There has been loads of proposals down the years for high rise, they might get past dublin city council but an bord pleanala either refuse it or chop a few stories off.

    The original proposal for spencer dock was high rise, it got so controversial that bertie ahern had to comment on it. It got refused and we got more of the same 6-8 story blocks. The river down at the docklands is wide enough to accomodate high rise, hopefully when things pick up again some may get built, but the nimbys and an taisce will be out in force again.

    Harry crosbie has permission for a tower down the at the point, the foundations are in but thats as far as it got.now theres a market/big wheel etc in its place. As far as im aware once things turn around it will be built.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,484 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    check out this link its a wind up but suits this thread,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aaSLNBOphpE

    Ah, I remember that. Now where's Alison O'Riordan..........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Wait for about 20 years before starting large scale redevelopment of Dublin City Centre. By then, most of the recently built apartment blocks will have dissolved in the Irish weather. Seriously, you wouldn't build a treehouse with the rubbish that went into those cardboard shoeboxes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭darragh16


    Well it worked for Manchester in 1996 and there was Irish involvement then as well.

    Did anybody else get the reference?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 179 ✭✭sagat2


    Ah yes sparkling exciting skylines they make for better cities don't they?

    Take for example Newark New Jersey, charming place especially at night:
    http://www.stucker.com/images/040504kz.jpg

    or how about Detroit? Can't believe we haven't leveled ancient Dublin to replicate this cultural wonderland:
    http://www.detroithomesguide.com/img/detroit-skyline.jpg

    and lets not forget Baltimore. Ignore that propaganda that is "The Wire" it truly is a city anyone would be proud to call home:
    http://www.ericenders.com/images/photosection/baltimore.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭KilOit


    yeah we need another cold sterile looking city scape, cities in Europe are beautiful because they have a history and tell a story. go move to some boring US city or another city that sprung up in the past few hundred years, Glass buildings as far as the eye can see, yawn. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    I thought we were getting a load of chinese lads to build a new city outside Athlone. What ever happened that?

    Anyway, the only thing dublin needs is a monorail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭smokie2008




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Can they just bulldoze Moore street?

    Its full of horrible tacky shops selling second hand phones, calling cards or wigs for black people. The street looks like ****


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,018 ✭✭✭Badgermonkey


    If you take your eyeline above the shopfronts in the centre of Dublin, you'll find charming detail on many of the buildings which have remained intact since the 1700/1800's.

    The destruction of many buildings on Fitwilliam st. by the ESB, Hawkins House, Liam Carrolls developments citywide, the Civic Offices and that god awful thing opposite the Olympia are low points in my opinion.

    O'Connell st is a case in point of what went wrong, many magnificent buildings adorned with atrocious shopfronts and bad planning, which chronically fed into the mess that part of the city was allowed to become.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    Can they just bulldoze Moore street?

    Its full of horrible tacky shops selling second hand phones, calling cards or wigs for black people. The street looks like ****

    I like Moore Street. :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    CiaranC wrote: »
    Perth is probably the worst city Ive ever been in. A soulless ghost town.

    I met a girl from Perth working at Uluru (Ayers Rock) who said she moved there to be somewhere more exciting.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    O'Connell st is a case in point of what went wrong, many magnificent buildings adorned with atrocious shopfronts and bad planning, which chronically fed into the mess that part of the city was allowed to become.

    Snap, was just about to mention O'Connell street. I used to always be gazing at the buildings from the top deck of buses, thinking how nice they were.

    Grafton Street will go the way of O'Connell street if rents don't come down - full of cheap fast food chains.

    A lot of buildings in the city centre just need a good clean.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Fifty hundred billion quid in debt, or whatever it is, and the OP wants to demolish and rebuild an entire city just because he doesn't like the look of it.

    I've heard it all now.

    What next... move Benbulben coz it blocks the view of the sea for some houses in Sligo?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    Fifty hundred billion quid in debt, or whatever it is, and the OP wants to demolish and rebuild an entire city just because he doesn't like the look of it.

    I've heard it all now.

    What next... move Benbulben coz it blocks the view of the sea for some houses in Sligo?

    I don't think they should move Benbulben but we need to do a kind of Mt Rushmore jobs on it and carve the faces of some of our beloved past Taosigh on it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Dirk Gently


    Google "A New Heart for Dublin".


    It was a Progressive Democrat policy document that wanted to Dublin Port and designate it for skyscrapers.

    Yeah I remember that fantastic PD building plan at the height of the building boom. Whatever happened that it didn't go ahead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,484 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    I don't think they should move Benbulben but we need to do a kind of Mt Rushmore jobs on it and carve the faces of some of our beloved past Taosigh on it

    Ha! You're 34 years late :D

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/95669/90508.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I thought we were getting a load of chinese lads to build a new city outside Athlone. What ever happened that?

    Anyway, the only thing dublin needs is a monorail

    It's completed, but it's ten miles underground.:eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭df1985


    If you take your eyeline above the shopfronts in the centre of Dublin, you'll find charming detail on many of the buildings which have remained intact since the 1700/1800's.

    The destruction of many buildings on Fitwilliam st. by the ESB, Hawkins House, Liam Carrolls developments citywide, the Civic Offices and that god awful thing opposite the Olympia are low points in my opinion.O'Connell st is a case in point of what went wrong, many magnificent buildings adorned with atrocious shopfronts and bad planning, which chronically fed into the mess that part of the city was allowed to become.

    the worst building in dublin in my opinion, truly awful-beside city hall, dublin castle and they stick that there-atrocious!

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/3379/33741.jpg

    they trying to be clever with the fake crane!!? horrible.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    df1985 wrote: »
    the worst building in dublin in my opinion, truly awful-beside city hall, dublin castle and they stick that there-atrocious!

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/3379/33741.jpg

    they trying to be clever with the fake crane!!? horrible.

    Surely this is worse:

    http://tiny.cc/ldddh


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    A nice example of '60s brutalism:

    http://tiny.cc/gpqwz


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭squod




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭wyndhurst


    Tear down dublin city centre & don't replace it







    The seat of all evil in today's Ireland


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Ghost Estate


    df1985 wrote: »
    the worst building in dublin in my opinion, truly awful-beside city hall, dublin castle and they stick that there-atrocious!

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/3379/33741.jpg

    they trying to be clever with the fake crane!!? horrible.

    Didn't know there was a small nuclear power station in Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭dRNk SAnTA


    If the city council just maintained the footpaths properly, reduced the dominance of cars, decluttered the streets of sign posts/phone boxes/electrical boxes, enforced the rules on shopfronts, then dublin would be a much much nicer place to be.

    They have made streets like O'Connell Street, Westmoreland Street and Grafton Street conservation zones, but haven't enforced any of the new rules. That's why half the shops on O'Connell Street have "temporary sign" in small print at the bottom, because they're trying to fob off the council's new(ish) rules.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    wyndhurst wrote: »
    Tear down dublin city centre & don't replace it







    The seat of all evil in today's Ireland

    Sometimes I think if Cork could harness all the jealous energy they have towards Dublin then they'd be able to generate enough electricity to power their town for free.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    bonerm wrote: »
    Sometimes I think if Cork could harness all the jealous energy they have towards Dublin then they'd be able to generate enough electricity to power their town for free.

    No biase here because I'm not from Dublin, but I seriously can't believe the attitude of some Corkonians to Dublin. It's a bit sad really. Dublin is the capital and is just better. Deal with it, Cork!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,244 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    We could try to preserve and regenerate the old city core, and build a skyscraper district in the port and docklands!!!
    This is what I was thinking after seeing Paris: the centre is zoned as low-rise, and they have a district (La Défense) where nearly all the skyscrapers go.

    There are many "New World" cities that can't boast an indigenous architectural heritage, and have to resort to creating one of pretty meagre pickings - I'm thinking of Vancouver's Gastown, for example, or Las Vegas. Sydney has some great architecture, but it's all so new. There are definitely parts of Dublin worth preserving, but I wouldn't mind seeing the disappearance of those buildings that look like they're about to fall down any day now.

    Government resting upon the will and universal suffrage of the people has no anchorage except in the people's intelligence.

    — Grover Cleveland



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