Eamonn Ryan wants to tax the internet to pay for RTE!!!

skelliser · 15-02-2011 06:27PM #1

One approach to the financing of public sector broadcasting, including the possibility of other media, involves some small charge on the volume of data. This type of funding model would fund public service content and be much easier to charge and cheaper to operate than our current license fee collection system.

http://greenparty.newsweaver.ie/1meu70zu3u8nagng2rkjst?email=true

If you still werent sure that the greens were/are a bunch of nutters then here is your answer.

To pay for Joe Duffy, Pat Kenny, Ryan Tubridy and Marian Finuncan all of whom earn hundreds of thousands of euro a year Ryan wants to tax the amount you download!!

Here's my idea that will actually save us money! sell off RTE!!

EverEvolving · 15-02-2011 06:29PM

They would have to make sure people had decent broadband then so it might be worth it.

General General · 15-02-2011 06:29PM

skelliser wrote: »

Here's my idea that will actually save us money! sell off RTE!!

Who'd buy RTE for anything other than a handful of magic beans?

Sanjuro · 15-02-2011 06:30PM

Jesus. Just when I thought the guy couldn't get any more idiotic or devoid of ideas that actually work, he comes out with this gem. What an absolute bell-end.

AnonoBoy · 15-02-2011 06:31PM

General General wrote: »

Who'd buy RTE for anything other than a handful of magic beans?

I'll see your magic beans and raise you this invisible typewriter!

dilbert2 · 15-02-2011 06:32PM

Brilliant and so close-to the election as well. I hope Greena Fail fall down the same bottomless pit that FF go down after the next election, they are nothing but a bunch of frauds who have betrayed their political ideals and have kept one of the most corrupt political parties in Europe afloat for longer than necessary just to stay in power.

Bye bye Fianna Fail, bye bye Greena Fail (former name: Green Party).

SEPT 23 1989 · 15-02-2011 06:33PM

They wont ever be in power again so i would not worry about what these zealots say

My name is URL · 15-02-2011 06:35PM

If they'd be doing away with the licence fee at the same time then it's not a terrible idea

Rubik. · 15-02-2011 06:36PM

Realistically, The Greens are only going to have one TD in the next Dail and it isn't going to be Eamon Ryan. So his opinions are no more relevant that any other random nutter.

Vanbis · 15-02-2011 06:39PM

FFS!! Close RTE down and save us all the bother.

PeakOutput · 15-02-2011 06:41PM

and in one stroke they destroy what little bit of clawing back they did lsat night in the debate

feckin eejits

Mint Sauce · 15-02-2011 06:47PM

Hmm, what about the VAT I already pay on my 10Gb a Broadband subsripstion.

:rolleyes:

Heres hoping the Greens never get back into a coalition following all their sucking up to FF and then their cowardally leap from goverment at the end of it.

orourkeda · 15-02-2011 06:52PM

Eamon Ryan should tax his oul one

pragmatic1 · 15-02-2011 06:54PM

Abolish rte would be better.

Wibbs · 15-02-2011 06:54PM

Political cowards, political tools and political sleeveens the lot of them. They've destroyed for a generation the idea of a green thinking party in this country. Well done fcukwits. Their policy pronouncements with few exceptions have been beyond stupid. Their witless and frankly amateur hour politicking over the last year has been embarrassing. Their leader Gormless would be a liability as ballast in a high sea, never mind as a leader. There isn't a single one of them I wouldnt happily line up against a wall and spray with nicely matured organic donkey urine.

EDIT PS watch how your interweb will be taxed. I'd be surprised if its not coming when the IMF et al don't see targets being met. They'll probably bring it in as a sleeveen tax. Add it to the TV licence. So even if you have no telly(like a few I know) you'll still have to pay a licence if you have a pc. It's too big an untapped resource for the gits to miss.

orourkeda · 15-02-2011 07:03PM

pragmatic1 wrote: »

Abolish rte would be better.

Abolish ryan tubridy

Sir Oxman · 15-02-2011 07:12PM

Wibbs wrote: »

EDIT PS watch how your interweb will be taxed. I'd be surprised if its not coming when the IMF et al don't see targets being met. They'll probably bring it in as a sleeveen tax. Add it to the TV licence. So even if you have no telly(like a few I know) you'll still have to pay a licence if you have a pc. It's too big an untapped resource for the gits to miss.

Reading FG's manifesto, section 10.5 hints at a new Public Broadcasting Charge to replace TV Licence applied to all households and applicable businesses... 'regardless of the device used to access content'
They are also looking at using differnet ways of collection inc Revenue (no escape!) local authorities or sticking it onto your ESB bill!

That doesn't sound too good and they're going to be the ones in power this time.

Sir Oxman · 15-02-2011 07:13PM

orourkeda wrote: »

Abolish ryan tubridy

Half a mill at least savings on that one alone.
Add Duffy and it's a roundy 1 million.
Toss in Funucane too - it all adds up.

Voodu Child · 15-02-2011 07:28PM

They already get vat on the excess useage charges for exceeding the 56Kb download allowance on your unlimited broadband package.

starbelgrade · 15-02-2011 07:29PM

If there was a tax on stupidity, Eamon Ryan would be bankrupt.

squod · 15-02-2011 07:38PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

If there was a tax on stupidity evilness, Eamon Ryan would be bankrupt.

FYP

starbelgrade · 15-02-2011 10:10PM

squod wrote: »

FYP

I don't think he's evil, just mildly retarded.

Badgermonkey · 15-02-2011 10:20PM

I'm with Vodafone, the red diesel of ISP's.

Does that mean I'll dodge the bullet?

leggo · 15-02-2011 10:21PM

OP you misread the story (as did everyone who just went on the thread title and quoted text).

Yes they want to adjust the licence fee...but they're proposing cutting RTE's share down and giving the commercial sector a slice of the pie. One of the suggestions also tabled is scrapping the licence altogether (though that's unlikely). They'll likely just adjust it to account for the growing popularity of the net and the decreasing dominance of TV/radio due to this.

Though I'm not a Green supporter, and I'm about as chuffed about this as everyone else, it's not THAT surprising and DOES make sense when you think about it objectively. Did we really think we were going to keep getting spoiled with unlimited usage for a reasonable fee? Especially when people can, and are, using it to discard taxable sources.

To summarise: this news is BAD for RTE and GOOD for the commercial sector (and presumably porn DVD retailers who'll no doubt prosper if people have to pay for the data used!). It's the first serious indication by politicians that they will tackle RTE's massive advantage over its competitors.

mfceiling · 15-02-2011 10:29PM

Fcukin greens would have you shíttíng into a bucket and píssíng into hedges then charge you for having to breathe....tax, tax, tax....fcuk off back to the stone age you hippy cúnts..

DonkeyStyle \o/ · 15-02-2011 10:42PM

gambiaman wrote: »

'regardless of the device used to access content'

Urgh, I hate this presumption that anyone actually is accessing their content. Look at the completely laughable shíte available on RTE Player.
I'd be in favour of this if they brought in individual user accounts. I'd gladly be locked out of RTE programming.
And smart-cards for the broadcast version.
Let the people who watch this fúcking drivel pay for it.

RichieC · 15-02-2011 10:42PM

Let RTE fall... good riddance.

Son Of A Vidic · 15-02-2011 11:03PM

Remember now everybody, don't forget to render these Green party nut jobs extinct on election day.

Sanjuro · 15-02-2011 11:07PM

Wibbs wrote: »

EDIT PS watch how your interweb will be taxed. I'd be surprised if its not coming when the IMF et al don't see targets being met. They'll probably bring it in as a sleeveen tax. Add it to the TV licence. So even if you have no telly(like a few I know) you'll still have to pay a licence if you have a pc. It's too big an untapped resource for the gits to miss.

Well you only have to look at the way the IPs in Canada recently turned Canadian internet access into a massive joke. Plus there are rumors in the tech community that IPs in the US are about to carve up internet access into speed tariffs. The more you pay, the faster your access. It's a worrying trend.

minidazzler · 15-02-2011 11:18PM

leggo wrote: »

OP you misread the story (as did everyone who just went on the thread title and quoted text).

Yes they want to adjust the licence fee...but they're proposing cutting RTE's share down and giving the commercial sector a slice of the pie. One of the suggestions also tabled is scrapping the licence altogether (though that's unlikely). They'll likely just adjust it to account for the growing popularity of the net and the decreasing dominance of TV/radio due to this.

Though I'm not a Green supporter, and I'm about as chuffed about this as everyone else, it's not THAT surprising and DOES make sense when you think about it objectively. Did we really think we were going to keep getting spoiled with unlimited usage for a reasonable fee? Especially when people can, and are, using it to discard taxable sources.

To summarise: this news is BAD for RTE and GOOD for the commercial sector (and presumably porn DVD retailers who'll no doubt prosper if people have to pay for the data used!). It's the first serious indication by politicians that they will tackle RTE's massive advantage over its competitors.

Yeah, good for the commercial sector, so TV3? I barely watch telly, everything I do watch is on sky usually, and at that I watch that stuff using skyplayer, either on the Xbox or PC. I don't care if it helps the commercial sector, TV licence fee's are just a stealth tax on things I already own. People complain about property tax, this is the same deal.

My name is URL wrote: »

If they'd be doing away with the licence fee at the same time then it's not a terrible idea

Problem being they want to tax on traffic, I watch EVERYTHING online, I play video games online, There are usually 3 people online at any one time in my house, we have a 250GB cap on our "unlimited" package from UPC and a great connection speed. We pay roughly 40 a month for this. The problems I have with licence fee is.

A) They are gonna be charging by how much download goes through

They are gonna monitor my downloads, who says they won't be monitoring WHAT I download. I don't download music illegally anyway, but I am willing to bet IMRA would get a lovely seat at this table.

C) I don't access content from many Irish sites except for boards, and if I had money to pay for it I would subscribe to boards, not pay a licence fee to the government to dole out as they see fit.

My biggest problem with licence fee's though, is knowing that the money paid is going to the likes of Ryan Tubridy who is paid a HIGHLY competitive salary by any countries standards in broadcasting when he is in a market that is not competitive to have him at all. Same with the rest of those tw@'s over there at RTE.

My name is URL · 15-02-2011 11:22PM

It's a bit disconcerting that people would prefer to see RTE go under rather than to improve how it is run. How many jobs would be lost if it was to simply stop operating? And it would be virtually impossible for a halfway decent independent broadcaster to take its place in a country as small as this.

A lot could be changed about the way it works.. if the dead weight is dropped and waste is reduced then it would most likely even turn a decent profit. Getting rid of it completely would be a disaster

Eamonn Ryan wants to tax the internet to pay for RTE!!!

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