Micheal Martin - society to blame for a "lazy" consensus over how the country was run

skelliser · 15-02-2011 04:29PM #1

Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin today blamed wider society for a “lazy” consensus over how the country was run during recent years.

Insisting Brian Cowen and Bertie Ahern were not culpable either

http://www.breakingnews.ie/election/news/martin-dail-business-ridiculous-493589.html

Just when you though these FF scumbags could get any worse they come out with this!!!
This fool has been in gov. for 14 years and what has he done! nothing, absolutely **** all!!

Fianna Fail - the party which blames everyone else but themselves!!

chin_grin · 15-02-2011 04:31PM

skelliser wrote: »

Fianna Fail - the party which blames everyone else but themselves!!

What about the gobsh*tes that keep voting for them?

skelliser · 15-02-2011 04:32PM

chin_grin wrote: »

What about the gobsh*tes that keep voting for them?

well thats it isnt it!
Martin is basically calling the electorate gob****es and "LAZY" for voting him and his ilk in!!

Ickle Magoo · 15-02-2011 04:33PM

Perhaps he has a point?

charlemont · 15-02-2011 04:34PM

Martin is really getting on peoples nerves, he is bonkers, thankfully no one I know will vote for that eejit..

dilbert2 · 15-02-2011 04:36PM

skelliser wrote: »

http://www.breakingnews.ie/election/news/martin-dail-business-ridiculous-493589.html

Just when you though these FF scumbags could get any worse they come out with this!!!
This fool has been in gov. for 14 years and what has he done! nothing, absolutely **** all!!

Fianna Fail - the party which blames everyone else but themselves!!

Oh go on Micheal, that’s it, keep rubbing it in people's faces. The more of this, the better in my opinion – let Micheal get up even more people's backs, that way he is further ensuring the impending extinction of FFailure.

bonerm · 15-02-2011 04:37PM

I'm fairly sure FF are trying to lose at this point.

ninebeanrows · 15-02-2011 04:44PM

FF are getting angry, they now realise their grip on power is well and truly over. What is worse they were secretly expecting the usual FF ascent towards polling day and probably expected they would get near 30% of the vote even on the worst day.

Now they are facing obliteration, 15% nationwide, they still don't believe it. They still expect an extra 10% on that but they are getting edgy.

ilovesleep · 15-02-2011 04:45PM

'We all partied with Anglo' - as if coming out and telling the nation this wasn't bad enough, they come out and they say that.

It smacks of disbelief. Last time i checked, it wasn't my job to do their fcuking job.

starbelgrade · 15-02-2011 04:49PM

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

Perhaps he has a point?

He does and he doesn't.

On one hand, the Irish electorate could be accused of taking their eye off the ball for a while.

On the other hand however, most people would expect that while they are busy leading their lives, working, studying, raising families etc., that those who are elected into power as caretakers of the country's economy, will not lead us up shit creek & fuck the whole thing to such an absymal level.

But of course, it's easier to just blame the electorate for being lazy.

The_Minister · 15-02-2011 04:50PM

In fairness, when the voters all say they want one thing, and the opposition say the same thing, it's a bit hypocritical to turn around and start screaming: "ZOMG!!! We elected you, shouldn't have done what we wanted, you should have done what was right!!!!"

They should have done what was right, even though they wouldn't be re-elected, but if half the people here actually held back then the opinions they hold now, maybe there would not have been a political consensus towards mad spending and continual boom.

They were wrong, and they were in power so they are responsible, but no-one who used, or nodded their head to, the phrase "the government coffers are overflowing" can point fingers.

wee slabber · 15-02-2011 04:52PM

Martin is beginning to lose it. His worst fear is that SF will pass FF by. He's resigned to opposition (they didn't run enough candidates to do otherwise), but the spectre of "the Republican Party" being passed out "Down here in the Republic" by SF is beginning to eat at him and his colleagues.:)

kincsem · 15-02-2011 04:53PM

Lehman Brothers did it.
And Goldman Sachs.

squod · 15-02-2011 04:54PM

chin_grin wrote: »

What about the gobsh*tes that keep voting for them?

They're transferring to FF junior or FG as they're now known.

EggsAckley · 15-02-2011 04:56PM

There only one thing at this stage the rest of Ireland can say to make amends for all the wrong we have done to FF: Me so solly

Snakeblood · 15-02-2011 04:57PM

Looking back on it I guess it is all my fault. Sorry everyone. I'd have spoken up sooner but I was sort of thinking it was whoever was in government.

dolphin city · 15-02-2011 04:57PM

ahh, I see finally Mr. Burns Michael Martin is losing the plot.

did he HONESTLY think that by being "in charge" at the eleventh hour people would be fooled into believing his nonsense

Ickle Magoo · 15-02-2011 04:57PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

He does and he doesn't.

On one hand, the Irish electorate could be accused of taking their eye off the ball for a while.

On the other hand however, most people would expect that while they are busy leading their lives, working, studying, raising families etc., that those who are elected into power as caretakers of the country's economy, will not lead us up shit creek & fuck the whole thing to such an absymal level.

But of course, it's easier to just blame the electorate for being lazy.

Well, it's political suicide to verbalise it but I think he's only saying what a lot of people are thinking.

Who are these gombeens that keep voting for FF? Ask now and no-one seems to have ever voted for them! Who are so lazy that their voting isn't dependant on examining electoral promises or reading manifestos but on who their mammy/daddy told them to vote for...the country's in a complete shambles and beyond the general grumble, grumble you'd think it was business as usual...gob****es and lazy wouldn't be too far off the mark in a lot of cases, tbh.

dilbert2 · 15-02-2011 04:59PM

Just came across something else there. So now we have,

(a) Micheal making Chinese impersonations in interviews,

(b) blaming the Irish public for the state we are in today.

Bye bye Fianna Fail (possibly for good).

ninebeanrows · 15-02-2011 05:02PM

No, FF RTE don't report these type of things so the masses of FF supporters won't know!

wee slabber · 15-02-2011 05:03PM

Just like Martin's stereotypical, Elton John-loving Chinaman, "Solly Seems to Be the Hardest Word".

ilovesleep · 15-02-2011 05:05PM

This would be akin to someone eating in a restaurant, receives food posioning, and the chef saying: 'you ate here. its your fault. Will I sh1t on your plate now?'

or a rapist in court blaming his victim because she has a vagina in her pants.

thenutflush · 15-02-2011 05:09PM

He's right, and I find it refreshing to hear him say it. Nobody gave a sh'it about economics or where the money was coming from during the boom...now everybody seems to be an expert.

Debthree · 15-02-2011 05:09PM

I'm too angry to type right now. If I know anyone who votes for FF next week I'm going to cut them out of my life. [Okay, I managed to get out a few words, lol]

squod · 15-02-2011 05:11PM

Dunno about no-body. I did and still do. Put my hands up though, I once voted green. Never again.

Debthree · 15-02-2011 05:14PM

thenutflush wrote: »

He's right, and I find it refreshing to hear him say it. Nobody gave a sh'it about economics or where the money was coming from during the boom...now everybody seems to be an expert.

Speak for yourself. I always "gave a sh'it" about the economy and money. As a parent of three kids I have to give a ****. Micheal Martin and the rest of his cronies partied at our expense with their back-pocket brown envelopes and their nods and winks to bank shareholders and their completely apathetic approach to leading this country. I have three children who have now inherited a huge debt so the bank shareholders (who invested at their own risk I might add) could be bailed out and the party could continue. When I say goodbye to my two eldest boys in a couple of years at the airport (cause there are NO jobs here) I'll remember that it was all my fault... yeah, right.

Gigiwagga · 15-02-2011 05:15PM

In 2003, in a private meeting I had with Michael Martin he told me that he held France totally responsible for the invasion of Iraq, and for all the carnage that resulted in it. This is true, he said this to me, nothing he says now would shock me, he's devious.

dilbert2 · 15-02-2011 05:17PM

Gigiwagga wrote: »

In 2003, in a private meeting I had with Michael Martin he told me that he held France totally responsible for the invasion of Iraq, and for all the carnage that resulted in it. This is true, he said this to me, nothing he says now would shock me, he's devious.

Did he do a French accent impersonation while suggesting it?

Snakeblood · 15-02-2011 05:17PM

thenutflush wrote: »

He's right, and I find it refreshing to hear him say it. Nobody gave a sh'it about economics or where the money was coming from during the boom...now everybody seems to be an expert.

You find it refreshing that it's everyone's fault but his? Have you been paying attention to Fianna Fail for the last 3 years?

thenutflush · 15-02-2011 05:21PM

Snakeblood wrote: »

You find it refreshing that it's everyone's fault but his? Have you been paying attention to Fianna Fail for the last 3 years?

Its Fianna fail's fault AND our fault (as a collective population .. as an individual, you might never have voted for them and might also have not lived on enormous amounts of borrowed money and so are not culpable) AND the opposition at the time's fault AND the banks.....

old hippy · 15-02-2011 05:23PM

FF hold electorate in contempt shocker!

Micheal Martin - society to blame for a "lazy" consensus over how the country was run

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